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[Nirolak]

Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2nd was just announced for PlayStation 3 and Vita for a Spring 2014 release: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617876

It is the sequel to the Vita and PS3 game that already released.

For those who are unaware of what that is, watch some of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkmdR1es3Es

I'll do the sales write-up when we get details beyond "it exists," but generally using the sales of the last game as a guide is probably the safest bet for now.

 

[Mpl90]

Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2nd was just announced for PlayStation 3 and Vita for a Spring 2014 release: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617876

It is the sequel to the Vita and PS3 game that already released.

For those who are unaware of what that is, watch some of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkmdR1es3Es

I'll do the sales write-up when we get details beyond "it exists," but generally using the sales of the last game as a guide is probably the safest bet for now.

I'm wondering if, this time, they'll release both SKUs at the same day. In that case, the ratio between them would be quite an interesting thing to look at.

 

[Nirolak]

I'm wondering if, this time, they'll release both SKUs at the same day. In that case, the ratio between them would be quite an interesting thing to look at.

Yes, I suspect they are same day given they were announced in tandem.

 

[pieatorium]

I'm wondering if, this time, they'll release both SKUs at the same day. In that case, the ratio between them would be quite an interesting thing to look at.

Yeah was thinking the same thing, probably be a better split than most ps3/v games because of the first being vita first and also doing pretty well.

 

[metalslimer]

Well it looks like Vita seems to be finding its niche in Japan. Hopefully Wii U can do the same.

 

[Nirolak]

Well it looks like Vita seems to be finding its niche in Japan. Hopefully Wii U can do the same.

I'm not especially worried about the Wii U not finding at least a niche audience given Nintendo's first party.

 

[metalslimer]

I'm not especially worried about the Wii U not finding at least a niche audience given Nintendo's first party.

True, but somehow I never thought Wii U would have a worse 2013 than Vita 2012 either. I'm not going to assume anything anymore =p

 

[Nirolak]

True, but somehow I never thought Wii U would have a worse 2013 than Vita 2012 either. I'm not going to assume anything anymore =p

Fair.

There's some PS3 and/or PS4 game in that list too, and I'm currently consulting duckroll for a translation.

Edit:

Okay yes it's a Namco Bandai 2D sidescrolling game tied to Short Peace written by Suda51 and directed Tokyo Jungle's director. duck will have a thread up soon once he sees if there's more info.

 

[Mpl90]

Fair.

There's some PS3/PS4 game in that list too, and I'm currently consulting duckroll for a translation.

Edit:

Okay yes it's a Namco Bandai 2D sidescrolling game tied to Short Peace written by Suda51 and directed Tokyo Jungle's director. duck will have a thread up soon once he sees if there's more info.

One clarification: PS3-4 shouldn't mean it's for both, just that the specific cathegory includes both PS3 and PS4 titles. Otherwise, Ao no Kiseki Evolution would be on PSP too, since it's listed under PSV-PSP. Or like SRT:OE, which is just for PSP, but listed under PSV-PSP too.

 

[distantmantra]

Fair.

There's some PS3/PS4 game in that list too, and I'm currently consulting duckroll for a translation.

Edit:

Okay yes it's a Namco Bandai 2D sidescrolling game tied to Short Peace written by Suda51 and directed Tokyo Jungle's director. duck will have a thread up soon once he sees if there's more info.

Basara 4 is also in there as being PS3/PS4. Did we know about it being on the PS4 before?

 

[Nirolak]

One clarification: PS3-4 shouldn't mean it's for both, just that the specific cathegory includes both PS3 and PS4 titles. Otherwise, Ao no Kiseki Evolution would be on PSP too, since it's listed under PSV-PSP

Sorry I tried to stealth edit, but was too slow. :lol

Looking at that again I think it's only PS3, but I'll just wait for duck to finish his thread before embarrassing myself further.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2nd was just announced for PlayStation 3 and Vita for a Spring 2014 release: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617876

It is the sequel to the Vita and PS3 game that already released.

For those who are unaware of what that is, watch some of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkmdR1es3Es

I'll do the sales write-up when we get details beyond "it exists," but generally using the sales of the last game as a guide is probably the safest bet for now.

Expected, though i thought they would at least wait for the announcement till Hatsune Miku Project Mirai 2 is released. Well...

 

[Nirolak]

Expected, though i thought they would at least wait for the announcement till Hatsune Miku Project Mirai 2 is released. Well...

Meanwhile at Nintendo.

 

[Magicpaint]

Expected, though i thought they would at least wait for the announcement till Hatsune Miku Project Mirai 2 is released. Well...

Does that even have a release date yet?

 

[Nirolak]

Does that even have a release date yet?

I think it just has a Fall 2013 timeframe.

Edit: Yeah google isn't giving me anything more specific than that.

 

[Magicpaint]

I think it just has a Fall 2013 timeframe.

Edit: Yeah google isn't giving me anything more specific than that.

Yeah I don't remember a specific date announced which is why I asked.

 

[michaelius]

I'm not especially worried about the Wii U not finding at least a niche audience given Nintendo's first party.

At current rate of third party annoucements this will be very niche audience of people who can buy console to play a Nintendo game every few months.

Even if Nintendo has somewhat decent release schedule for end of 2013 those studios will need 2+ years to make another Wii U game.

 

[pieatorium]

Even if Nintendo has somewhat decent release schedule for end of 2013 those studios will need 2+ years to make another Wii U game.

New Super Peach U 2014, New Super Daisy U 2015, Luigi Kart 2015 etc

 

[michaelius]

New Super Peach U 2014, New Super Daisy U 2015, Luigi Kart 2015 etc

Well i guess if we add to that Galaxy HD collection, Twilight Princess HD, Skyward Sword HD, Metroid HD it could be not so bad

 

[StreetsAhead]

At current rate of third party annoucements this will be very niche audience of people who can buy console to play a Nintendo game every few months.

Even if Nintendo has somewhat decent release schedule for end of 2013 those studios will need 2+ years to make another Wii U game.

Eh, Nintendo has 19 retail games announced that they're publishing for Japan right now, nine for this year starting from this Saturday. I'm not too worried about having stuff to play fairly consistently...for the next 18 months.

 

[Spiegel]

Yes, I suspect they are same day given they were announced in tandem.

They were announced in tandem the last time too

But the announcement (PDf 1) clearly said that the PS3 version would release at a later date.

 

[Oersted]

Anything interesting for the upcoming sales chart thread?

New Super Peach U 2014, New Super Daisy U 2015, Luigi Kart 2015 etc

Your joke has some flaws

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Persona 4 > Persona 3/5?
Miku > Miku 2
Soul Sacrifice > Freedom Wars

I see you Sony.

 

[test_account]

I wonder why Sega doesnt try to release Miku 2 on WiiU. Maybe because of the more difficult porting? (takes more time and cost more money). It also looks like Vita got at least on more 3rd party game that is a 100k+ seller (i asked a while ago if the Vita would get more of 100k+ sellers from 3rd party, but to be fair, it was just a guess on both sides).

 

[Hellraider]

I wonder why Sega doesnt try to release Miku 2 on WiiU. Maybe because of the more difficult porting? (takes more time and cost more money). It also looks like Vita got at least on more 3rd party game that is a 100k+ seller (i asked a while ago if the Vita would get more of 100k+ sellers from 3rd party, but to be fair, it was just a guess on both sides).

The question shouldn't be why not but why release at all.

 

[TheChaos0]

I wonder why Sega doesnt try to release Miku 2 on WiiU. Maybe because of the more difficult porting? (takes more time and cost more money). It also looks like Vita got at least on more 3rd party game that is a 100k+ seller (i asked a while ago if the Vita would get more of 100k+ sellers from 3rd party, but to be fair, it was just a guess on both sides).

I don't think the audience is there on Wii U.

 

[VAPitts]

u guys talk as if Nintendo's first parties are all the sudden irrelevant.

 

[schuelma]

u guys talk as if Nintendo's first parties are all the sudden irrelevant.

Well, we will see.

Nintendo's first party offerings will definitely sell- the question is whether those games are headed back to Game Cube irrelevance impact wise or whether Nintendo has managed to maintain some sense of first party revival after the Wii first party successes.

 

[Nirolak]

They were announced in tandem the last time too

But the announcement (PDf 1) clearly said that the PS3 version would release at a later date.

Yeah with Diva f they first built some good Vita technology and then upgraded everything for PS3 after the fact.

At this point they are pretty much good on both of those fronts.

Well, we will see.

Nintendo's first party offerings will definitely sell- the question is whether those games are headed back to Game Cube irrelevance impact wise or whether Nintendo has managed to maintain some sense of first party revival after the Wii first party successes.

This is why I feel Pikmin will be quite interesting, especially in terms of how games that aren't Nintendo's flagships are fairing.

 

[schuelma]

This is why I feel Pikmin will be quite interesting, especially in terms of how games that aren't Nintendo's flagships are fairing.

It definitely will be, though given the extremely long absence between real releases, I feel like it will be somewhat difficult to gauge in terms of measuring IP decline.

 

[michaelius]

Weird they are not doing Mirai 2 for Wii U.
Doesn't Nintendo have some tools to make porting from 3DS to Wii U easier ?

 

[Nirolak]

It definitely will be, though given the extremely long absence between real releases, I feel like it will be somewhat difficult to gauge in terms of measuring IP decline.

Right, that's why I think it's not an interesting barometer for their flagship/well served titles, but for the other kinds of things they do (or did).

 

[schuelma]

Right, that's why I think it's not an interesting barometer for their flagship/well served titles, but for the other kinds of things they do (or did).

Yeah definitely. Right now I'm thinking 300K-350K. Just struggle to see much more given the size of the userbase.

 

[VAPitts]

Well, we will see.

Nintendo's first party offerings will definitely sell- the question is whether those games are headed back to Game Cube irrelevance impact wise or whether Nintendo has managed to maintain some sense of first party revival after the Wii first party successes.

i agree, but trying to compare these to third party titles that barely sell isn't a good comparison. (not saying you are) then factor in that Sony isn't exactly catering to Japan (specifically with the PS4) and software on the Vita is nothing to call home about but yet some people want to continue to make it out like it's great.

 

[test_account]

The question shouldn't be why not but why release at all.

To see how it will sell

I don't think the audience is there on Wii U.

That might be, but if they dont release anything for the platform, they will never know for sure.

 

[schuelma]

i agree, but trying to compare these to third party titles that barely sell isn't a good comparison. (not saying you are) then factor in that Sony isn't exactly catering to Japan (specifically with the PS4) and software on the Vita is nothing to call home about but yet some people want to continue to make it out like it's great.

I'm not sure who you think is saying these things?? I haven't seen that in this thread.

 

[Nirolak]

Yeah definitely. Right now I'm thinking 300K-350K. Just struggle to see much more given the size of the userbase.

What's the LTD on NSMB U btw?

I think Garaph doesn't update anymore IIRC so I can't check my normal sources.

 

[Spiegel]

300-350k would be a great result for Pikmin 3, all things considered.

What's the LTD on NSMB U btw?

I think Garaph doesn't update anymore IIRC so I can't check my normal sources.

Dengeki says 534,818 as of last week

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/667/667493/

 

[TheChaos0]

That might be, but if they dont release anything for the platform, they will never know for sure.

Apparently, they don't feel like it's worth the risk, I guess.

 

[schuelma]

What's the LTD on NSMB U btw?

I think Garaph doesn't update anymore IIRC so I can't check my normal sources.

528K I think.

 

[schuelma]

300-350k would be a great result for Pikmin 3, all things considered.

Yeah that might be too optimistic..I see it maybe doing 100-120K first week, and given Nintendo legs I can see it getting there.

 

[test_account]

Apparently, they don't feel like it's worth the risk, I guess.

Yeah, that is most likely the reason. I wonder how much it cost to port the game over to the WiiU though, and i wonder how many copies they would need to sell to make a profit.

 

[VAPitts]

I'm not sure who you think is saying these things?? I haven't seen that in this thread.

seriously? it's all over this thread and plenty others in the past. The PS4 confidence talk may not be in this one but i've seen it in past ones.

 

[test_account]

seriously? it's all over this thread and plenty others in the past. The PS4 confidence talk may not be in this one but i've seen it in past ones.

Do you have any specific examples of these comparisons?

 

[Father_Brain]

Well it looks like Vita seems to be finding its niche in Japan. Hopefully Wii U can do the same.

Its future in Japan is at least looking better than I would have expected six months ago, let alone a year ago, but I'd be hesitant to say that until/unless it reaches a baseline of 20K or so, or at least until there's more than one likely 200K+ seller announced (GE2 is the only one I'd consider such at the moment).

As for Wii U... as long as you mean a GC-sized or slightly smaller niche, perhaps. More than that will take third-party support, and I think Wii U getting even Vita levels of support would be even more of a miraculous turnaround than Vita getting PSP levels would be.

 

[liger05]

With Pikmin 3 what do people think the Wii U sales will be like. 20k for the week?

 

[Exterminieren]

With Pikmin 3 what do people think the Wii U sales will be like. 20k for the week?

With the White Premium, NSLU and Nintendoland + Wiimote bundles, I'm guessing it could be at least double that.

 

[Yeshua]

Yeah that might be too optimistic..I see it maybe doing 100-120K first week, and given Nintendo legs I can see it getting there.

The serie was able to sell ~ 500k on GC, I don't think 300-350k for Pikmin 3 is optimist nor even good.

With Pikmin 3 what do people think the Wii U sales will be like. 20k for the week?

Pikmin 3 + new Nintendoland SKU (packed with a wiimote) + retail release of New Super Luigi U + White premium Wii U.[EDIT] Beaten

 

[schuelma]

The serie was able to sell ~ 500k on GC, I don't think 300-350k for Pikmin 3 is optimist nor even good.

Yeah I don't know- that was also 9 years ago- kind of difficult to gauge how popular the series is now.

We will see.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

With Pikmin 3 what do people think the Wii U sales will be like. 20k for the week?

Anything in the range between 15k and 25k seems reasonable to me.

Edit: if Luigi bros hhas released as well, I would expect at least 30k.