ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
At 121K has the Vita TV outsold the PSP Go?
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Media Create Sales: Week 26, 2014 (Jun 23 - Jun 29)
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Media Create's last reported total for PSPgo was 175.855.
Yokai Watch alone would've done nothing for Vita. Look at how LBX W performed compared to the PSP and 3DS versions. It would've needed a lot more children's software to make an ecosystem that could support it. Something like that always made sense on 3DS due to Pokemon and Mario bringing that audience in.
Vita does need broad appeal software. But getting that is easier said than done.
sturgboski
Member
Well yes. I'm not saying Vita would be number one with just Monster Hunter, but it would have really helped move more units. That might have helped secure some other games (at least getting some games to go multiplatform).
Speaking of Pokemon, I'm surprised Sony didn't try to do something similar on the PSP. On the Vita you have a good deal of Monster Hunter like games, but there's no real Pokemon like games out there.
Smiles and Cries
Member
all things considered, the market in Japan is lack luster so saying doing very well is in the context that it is performing much better in the past few months than the years before
It isn't wrong or anything, but Vita would sell better with Monster Hunter isn't much of a revelation.
Dragon Quest Monsters is on 3DS, is Nintendo's own Fossil Fighters. I think Toriko Gourmet Monsters for 3DS is like this as well. Not sure how well Digimon Cyber Sleuth on Vita compares since Digimon games are all over the place.
EDIT: How did I forget Youkai Watch. Maybe Medarot too? There isn't a lack of "mon" games.
Bruno MB
Member
Japanese market flat for H1 2014; PS3 sales beating Wii U
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/japanese-market-flat-for-h1-2014-ps3-sales-beating-wii-u/0134936
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/japanese-market-flat-for-h1-2014-ps3-sales-beating-wii-u/0134936
That data uses single SKUs, right? So games that were PS4/PS3 (Yakuza) or PS3/Vita (like SRW or J Stars) wouldn't appear unless a single SKU had outsold more than Dark Souls II
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I would not have expected 3DS and Vita sales to be that close last year.
Also this was supposed to be WiiU's best year as it has it biggest exclusives coming out and yet its still down YOY. What is happening?
to be fair, the only good exklusive released this year for WiiU was MK8 and that was 1 month ago.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Thats its biggest exclusive though.
So far this year WiiU has had DKC and MK8 as exclusives.
2013 up till May was even worse for the WiiU in terms of software yet its tracking ahead.
I think for the Hardware SSB will drive more and is more important,(makes sense because season).
Let´s see if Amiibo can do a little bit more for the WiiU in Japan. I know the Console is near Death but not finnished at all.
Moor-Angol
Banned
A reduced price, not a budget release
actually is 5,390yen and when it was released in October it was more than 7,000yen iirc
DKCR2 suffered from platform overload. MK8 was a big success but it was only a Pikmin sized hardware mover.
Wii U is up going by FY comparisons though at least. It's also beating PS3 and on the verge of beating PS4 (probably next week) by that metric.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
On the other hand, Wii U came off its launch into 2013, right now, Wii U is outselling Wii U 2013 at the same time. This is not to say Wii U's sales are good, just to remind you that the comparison is not exactly fair.
3DS games based on 12 Years Old http://age12.happinet-games.com/ and Dolly Kanon http://dollykanon.happinet-games.com/
I'm guessing both manga series are fairly small?
I'm guessing both manga series are fairly small?
Sammy Samusu
Member
I was wondering why Sony didn't release the Super Value Pack along with Freedom Wars, but now I have my answer!
Out next week. (PSP version too)
Out next week. (PSP version too)
Smash is going to be huge, and if wiiu can stay 10k on MK8's back until captain toad, Bayo 2 and Hyrule Warriors it will be a respectable year for WII U. PS4 will have a hard time catching if it already has a 1.2 million unit lead, is outselling it now and will have an infinitely bigger holiday boost.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
No its not. Thats my entire point. Even with MK8 and DKC WiiU is down year on year:
2013: 317k
2014: 291k
I've just noticed this now and found it surprising.
Unless I'm reading the YTD column wrong on the front page.
Hero of Legend
Member
What was Wii U selling just after the holidays in Jan 2013? It had a big launch and naturally holidays are very kind to Nintendo, but when did the sales start to look bleak in 2013?
Could explain it. This past holiday's sales cooled off right around the start of 2014.
1st Course
Member
Nothing1016
Member
I think he is talking about weekly. It's doing better now weekly then it was 2013. Overall, it's still down like you posted.
http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXNASDZ0309B_T00C14A7TI0000/
Youkai Watch on track to sell 100million Youkai medals this year.
Youkai Watch on track to sell 100million Youkai medals this year.
Each week since MK8 launched the yoy sales have been doubled. It's closing that gap fast, and with Smash is going to have a monster holiday, probably double last holiday if the trend continues.
So yes the WiiU will be up big yoy, and probably have it's best year.
That's a lot. Like, a lot. I know that the profit margin shouldn't be that expressive, but the quantity is ridiculous.
MasterSheen
Member
I expect MH4U to sell at least as well as 4, so not me. I wouldn't be surprised if the former outsold ORAS either.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Level 5 swimming in money.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Does 4U actually add so much that every person who bought MH4 would buy 4U? I'm not really up-to-date on these games, but it's basically just a big expansion right?
I would be pretty surprised if 4U sold that well.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
You make it sound like MK8 did so much when in reality it did very little for WiiU hardware sales. 10k is what it did. Nintendo's biggest exclusive had the same effect as Pikmin 3.
Speaking of Pikmin 3, it got released in July last year, so those "doubled yoy sales" will be effectively cancelled. Whether WiiU is up yoy relies on its baseline sales and holiday sales but if it was to have a meaningful yoy increase the holidays are the only way that could happen.
Right now WiiU is looking a lot like GC in terms of yearly sales:
GCN vs WiiU
1) 930k - 627k (GC launched in March)
2) 1070k - 898k
3) 1115k - ???k
In fact its trailing GCN. I do expect a yoy increase but am now thinking its going to smaller. Probably not enough to beat GC.
1st Course
Member
This guy say Freedom Wars feels unfinished and has tons of problems
http://www.reddit.com/r/vita/comments/29tt7d/freedom_wars_is_a_glass_half_empty_and_painfully/
> Literally unfinished story
> Full of fetch quests
> Post-story missions unlocked randomly, not though requirements.
> Broken stealth missions
> Terrible controls
> Dodging is broken
> Crap crafting system (largely dependent on randomness)
> Few content
> Terrible NPC AI
> Long loading times
etc etc
http://www.reddit.com/r/vita/comments/29tt7d/freedom_wars_is_a_glass_half_empty_and_painfully/
> Literally unfinished story
> Full of fetch quests
> Post-story missions unlocked randomly, not though requirements.
> Broken stealth missions
> Terrible controls
> Dodging is broken
> Crap crafting system (largely dependent on randomness)
> Few content
> Terrible NPC AI
> Long loading times
etc etc
Sammy Samusu
Member
Well I never cared about Freedom Wars, sucks for everyone looking forward to it though.
I say we focus on God Eater 2, that one looks awesome. My Vita TV is ready.
I say we focus on God Eater 2, that one looks awesome. My Vita TV is ready.
Most of his answers are agreeing with the complaints, lol
But after feedback like that, it sounds like I'll just pass on that game. Some stuff could be fixed in a patch, but some of the fundamental stuff likely won't.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
GE2 is getting localised?
Comgnet's retail chain preorders comparisons - Yokai Watch 2's run-to-the-million, as of Juky 5th, 2014
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3 - 161pt + 145pt = 306pt
[3DS] Pokémon X / Y - 893pt + 867pt = 1760pt
[3DS] Yokai Watch 2 - 669pt + 512pt = 1181pt
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3 - 161pt + 145pt = 306pt
[3DS] Pokémon X / Y - 893pt + 867pt = 1760pt
[3DS] Yokai Watch 2 - 669pt + 512pt = 1181pt
YOY, as used in the NPD threads as well, is comparing the current time frame to the same one last year. Going by the Famitsu numbers you gave, Wii U is still 26k behind last year which means it needs to match last year's sales and add another 1k on average per week.
It currently is up YOY, over 3000 more this week compared to last year. So it is beating the needed average weekly sales by 2k. Both MK8 and SSB will boost again during the holidays making it quite likely that the holidays will beat the needed average excessively.
So it is very unlikely that Wii U will not be up YOY for the YTD as well by the end of the year.
It's really not as bad as he makes it sound.
Yeah, there are some problems with it, some of them are genuinely annoying but after playing it, it really is still a very enjoyable game to play.
Think about it as suffering as the same syndrome as previous vita games like Soul Sac or gravity rush games though: Games with full of potential, who will still be enjoyed by a good majority but have some fundamental problems to really grow true legs.
It's no vita savior (nor do I think anyone expected it to be, honestly), but writing it off completely would be a foolish thing to do honestly.
Holy hell, it just keeps getting more and more impressive. You really gotta wonder just how far it'll go. No wonder some retailers are calling YW the new "Pokémon" or "Monster Hunter".
Curious to see how sales will be in the upcoming weeks. YW1 had a decent opening, then sales managed to remain steady for months, until the holiday and the pre-anime sales boom with Christmas. I wonder at what level sales will stabilise this time around. What about the Christmas boom for YW2? What impact on 3DS sales?
Really interesting weeks up ahead
MasterSheen
Member
I don't really follow these games either but I'm just going by past examples. 3G and 2G outsold their originals.
Tri was on a home console and 2nd G was when the series was still growing.
If it's bad enough, it would damage the brand in the short run, i.e. the coming weeks. Especially if multiplayer is a big selling point.
Father_Brain
Banned
The series has even more growing to do once the mainline titles leave 3DS behind.
MH5 coming to iOS/Android, fall 2017. Believe.
phoenix3934
Member
So, can we expect line pics for Yokai Watch 2 or is that too much?
Of course. I'll be looking around twitter and blogs in the morning for some good pictures to make a post about it unless Sammy beats me
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Well of course I expect it to be yoy up, just wondering how much and surprised it isn't already.
Oh and as I said earlier Pikmin 3 released last year and gave an almost identical hardware boost to Mario so WiiU is going to fall behind by 50k or so at July.
Don't forget 4Gamer.net, they usually got some nice line pics, too.
By the way, do we have any info on the original shipment for the game? Pretty sure Level-5 learned their lesson and will try to avoid shortages as much as possible, so I'm expecting a big ass shipment... and some shortages at launch.
And for Christmas, I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo had a Youkai Watch 2 bundle, especially if they do launch a new 3DS model. Makes me wonder if they'll do the "Premium Pack" this year too.