It turned out to be a much bigger success than Layton and IE... don't think anyone expected that.
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Media Create Sales: Week 27, 2014 (Jun 30 - Jul 06)
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It turned out to be a much bigger success than Layton and IE... don't think anyone expected that.
Isn't GTA5 the first one with decent story and characterization?
At least that's the way I see it. Personally I'm probably going to pick up GTA5 on PC when it's released, even though I've never liked the series before.
To this day I just can't believe a Yu-Gi-Oh game sold a million copies in its first week...
It depends, they've had a few bomb and their regular franchises were still selling okay-ish (but that wasn't going to last). They've had success with Fantasy Life though. And Ni-No-Kuni PS3 sold well in the west (not sure how much they make off western sales).
They probably could have kept going for a while still, but finding a new mega franchise to make up for Inazuma Eleven being dead is great for them of course.
jamesinclair
Banned
That is an improvement, youd usually expect the sales to be lower a year later.
nvm, can't read. March probably.
Would you? How's that?
Bruno MB
Member
Yo-Kai Watch finally becomes the best-selling Level 5 game.
Code:
[B][3DS] Yo-Kai Watch (Level 5) {2013.07.11} - 52.901 / 1.160.576[/B]
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Firestorm / Blizzard (Level 5) {2009.10.01} - 297.310 / 1.157.346
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Lightning Bolt / Bomb Blast (Level 5) {2010.07.01} - 462.377 / 1.018.381
[NDS] Professor Layton and the Curious Village (Level 5) {2007.02.15} - 119.816 / 1.002.561
[NDS] Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box (Level 5) {2007.11.29} - 307.771 / 945.630frankie_baby
Member
Quite possibly a record that might only last a week (if they ship enough)
Sammy Samusu
Member
Can someone make a weekly P4GxPQ comparison? (Famitsu)
In the early years of a console's life, no you wouldn't.
Don't you remember Reggie's (Iwata's?) E3 presentation from about 3-4 years ago?
Consoles have historically gone up until peaking at year three, and then gone down.
Nintendo was bragging about how they bucked this trend by still going up past three years.
Going down in year two would be bad.
I thought the Layton games sold millions. If I remember correctly Curious Village didnt start that well but had great legs.
PhantomOfTheKnight
Member
Congrats to Freedom Wars and holy shit @ Yo-kai Watch.
IIRC Curious Village didn't hit a million in Japan until a few years ago.
IIRC Curious Village didn't hit a million in Japan until a few years ago.
LordOcidax
Member
9,961 vs 8,251 thats 17% Up YoY. Is a small improvement, still a improvement.
Woah, didn't realize this. Congrats, Level 5.
Brutalitops
Banned
Wait for Xbox One launch week
Am I just tired, or is it unusual for new IPs to be so high in a system's best seller list?
This game has had such a bizarre life.
Numbers without context don't mean much. In two weeks last years' number will be 20k and this year will continue to go down until pretty much mid-august.
Layton series:
1: 1,002,561
2: 945,630
3: 872,170
4: 676,069
5: 394,003
AA: 328,861
6: 249,366
Inazuma:
1: 401,820
2: 1,157,346
3: 1,018,381
3O: 461,791
S: 221,912
Go: 447,448
S2: 151,044
Go2: 440,623
GoS: 80,616
123: 39,142
GOG: 246,003
GOG(DL): 4,666
Given this is more like an Inazuma type brand, they probably have until Yokai Watch 4 before they've critically damaged the brand.
LordOcidax
Member
Ok.....
test_account
XP-39C²
Have that ever happened before? That a sequel sells more in the first week than what the predecessor has sold LTD. I cant really see Yokai Watch 2 breaking a million copies in the first week unless a lot of people are buying both versions, or that a lot of people are very interested in the franchise, but have hold off buying YW1 (and waited to buy YW2 instead). Or that a lot of people have bought used copies, meaning that noticeably more than ~1.2 million people have played YW1.
That's because Vita doesn't really have any best sellers.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
He's absolutely right though. You really can't paint a clear picture until we approach the holiday season, because in a couple weeks its going to look awful (comparatively) with the HW drop off
theprodigy
Member
Pikmin 3 bump from last year + Wii U still falling this year = it's not catching up YTD for a while
Top 4 for each recent-ish platform (to account for brands actually being big and existing these days):
Wii U:
New Super Mario Bros. U
Wii Party U
Mario Kart 8
Wii Fit U
3DS:
Pokémon X / Y
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Monster Hunter 4
Mario Kart 7
PS4:
Knack*
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes
Yakuza: Ishin!
Watch Dogs
Battlefield 4
PS3:
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII-2
Resident Evil 6
One Piece: Pirate Warriors
360:
Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope
Tales of Vesperia
Blue Dragon
The Last Remnant
DS:
New Super Mario Bros.
Pokémon Diamond / Pearl
Pokémon Black / White
Animal Crossing: Wild World
PSP:
Monster Hunter Freedom 3
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite
Monster Hunter Freedom 2
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite [PSP the Best]
Wii:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Wii Sports
Mario Kart Wii
Wii Fit
The Wii and 360 are the only other platforms with new IPs in the top four that have been out for a notable period of time, and the 360 is the only other one that does it with core titles.
I suspect this relates to not having a lot of major franchises on the system, especially in notable ways.
* Knack doens't really count since it was a free bundle.
1st Course
Member
Wii U 2013 vs Wii U 2014 battle so far (Famitsu)
Probably going to catch up by 40-43.
Code:
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| Week | Wii U 2013 (Sales/YTD) | Wii U 2014 (Sales/YTD) |
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| 1 | 70.662 ( 70.662 ) | 60.548 ( 60.548 ) |
| 2 | 21.489 ( 92.151 ) | 14.029 ( 74.577 ) |
| 3 | 16.635 ( 108.786 ) | 11.036 ( 85.613 ) |
| 4 | 12.335 ( 121.121 ) | 9.461 ( 95.074 ) |
| 5 | 11.714 ( 132.835 ) | 8.679 ( 103.753 ) |
| 6 | 11.092 ( 143.927 ) | 8.605 ( 112.358 ) |
| 7 | 10.167 ( 154.094 ) | 8.706 ( 121.064 ) |
| 8 | 9.495 ( 163.589 ) | 8.129 ( 129.193 ) |
| 9 | 9.528 ( 173.117 ) | 8.515 ( 137.708 ) |
| 10 | 9.089 ( 182.206 ) | 8.128 ( 145.836 ) |
| 11 | 8.567 ( 190.773 ) | 7.297 ( 153.133 ) |
| 12 | 10.172 ( 200.945 ) | 9.504 ( 162.637 ) |
| 13 | 21.502 ( 222.447 ) | 13.073 ( 175.710 ) |
| 14 | 14.413 ( 236.860 ) | 7.686 ( 183.396 ) |
| 15 | 10.147 ( 247.007 ) | 5.693 ( 189.089 ) |
| 16 | 8.047 ( 255.054 ) | 5.588 ( 194.677 ) |
| 17 | 8.058 ( 263.112 ) | 5.596 ( 200.273 ) |
| 18 | 10.573 ( 273.685 ) | 8.217 ( 208.490 ) |
| 19 | 6.744 ( 280.429 ) | 8.065 ( 216.555 ) |
| 20 | 6.058 ( 286.487 ) | 6.836 ( 223.391 ) |
| 21 | 5.536 ( 292.023 ) | 8.858 ( 232.249 ) |
| 22 | 5.669 ( 297.692 ) | 19.031 ( 251.280 ) |
| 23 | 4.549 ( 302.241 ) | 12.576 ( 263.856 ) |
| 24 | 5.031 ( 307.272 ) | 10.366 ( 274.222 ) |
| 25 | 4.236 ( 311.508 ) | 8.373 ( 282.595 ) |
| 26 | 5.846 ( 317.354 ) | 9.010 ( 291.605 ) |
| 27 | 6.380 ( 323.734 ) | 8.020 ( 299.625 ) |
| 28 | 20.728 ( 344.462 ) | |
| 29 | 14.024 ( 358.486 ) | |
| 30 | 10.937 ( 369.423 ) | |
| 31 | 9.432 ( 378.855 ) | |
| 32 | 9.291 ( 388.146 ) | |
| 33 | 10.951 ( 399.097 ) | |
| 34 | 7.024 ( 406.121 ) | |
| 35 | 6.239 ( 412.360 ) | |
| 36 | 5.054 ( 417.414 ) | |
| 37 | 4.842 ( 422.256 ) | |
| 38 | 5.147 ( 427.403 ) | |
| 39 | 5.560 ( 432.963 ) | |
| 40 | 3.853 ( 436.816 ) | |
| 41 | 3.405 ( 440.221 ) | |
| 42 | 3.083 ( 443.304 ) | |
| 43 | 3.010 ( 446.314 ) | |
| 44 | 40.118 ( 486.432 ) | |
| 45 | 14.060 ( 500.492 ) | |
| 46 | 14.006 ( 514.498 ) | |
| 47 | 20.177 ( 534.675 ) | |
| 48 | 27.325 ( 562.000 ) | |
| 49 | 46.773 ( 608.773 ) | |
| 50 | 72.982 ( 681.755 ) | |
| 51 | 119.159 ( 800.914 ) | |
| 52 | 79.174 ( 880.088 ) | |
----------------------------------------------------------Probably going to catch up by 40-43.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It's not that strange we did come the wii, ds generation, but in those cases it's because they were a phenomenon, here it seems Vita's top selling software sales are so bad the difference the sales of "major" IP and he potential sales of a new one overlap fairly significantly.
Nirolak's post explains it better
frankie_baby
Member
I really don't know but it won't shock me if it does
LordOcidax
Member
Still, a YoY small improvement...
Except it isn't. Sales fluctuate, but the bigger picture (YTD) show that sales are down from last year. Same week last year the WiiU had zero titles in the top 20 and only one in the top 30 which was NSMB at 29.
Now that strikes me as interesting. For that to sell 1M, it'd need to sell to 85% of the current userbase of the first game in the first week.
I don't think that's realistic, but it does get me wondering about a more generalised statistic: for sequels of big-hit titles (I guess in particular ones that are leggy, slow burners with a lot of success in the long run): How do their first-week sales rack up as a proportion of the LTD sales at that point of the previous game?
Man, when is the XBone hitting the shores of Japan? Time for some new blood.
It takes two games and one purchaser to make a 'best seller'.
Okay, that makes sense. I'm wondering whether that vacuum is encouraging mid-tier developers to move into that space - when the cats are away and all that. That may be more sleep-think though.
I like that double-entendre.
I like that double-entendre.
And_Gignac
Member
Consoles are becoming a niche in Japan. The dead of middle of the road software is really hurting them and soon the same could happen to handhelds if the smartphone bleeding isn't contained. 
I sincerely don't see Final Fantasy XV selling over 1,5 million.
I sincerely don't see Final Fantasy XV selling over 1,5 million.
You're haggling over a meaningless difference. The console remains completely lifeless, along with everything else on the market in Japan.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I'm digging how fluid the combat looks.
Yeah thats probably why.
Still did not expect it to go that big.
I think there are some companies that are looking at the Vita and mentally combining the lack of competition and the incentives from Sony and going "This actually makes sense for us given our sales potential."
Like this is much rarer at retail in the West because almost anything that makes it to retail these days is expected to sell 2+ million copies to have even been worth greenlighting (and even then that's not enough for a lot of games), but if you look at indie titles there are certainly devs who favor something like XBLA, PSN, or the eShop where, despite its lower sales, the type of game they're making backed by first party marketing sticks out more than it does on Steam. They often have the option of porting to Steam and/or other digital distribution services later as well.
For example, if there's not another PlayStation handheld, Tecmo Koei can always take Toukiden to the 3DS and/or 4DS. However, had they just launched there first, they would have had to gone head to head with Monster Hunter directly as a new IP on a system with seas of software. Since the "We're going to take them down or at least take a bunch of their market share." mindset appears notably rarer among Japanese publishers, trying to avoid them while lowering risk with first party money seems to be the favored option.
There is an argument that it makes more sense to just invest heavily and go straight for the throat of your competitor, which is something we see a lot with things like Watch Dogs vs. GTA or Battlefield vs. CoD, but I feel like that's pretty rare in the Japanese. It has certainly paid off for Yokai Watch though.
Magicpaint
Member
Nice hold for Freedom Wars.
Yokai Watch 2 should make things more interesting next week. Congrats to the first for being Level-5's best seller before the sequel's launch.
Yokai Watch 2 should make things more interesting next week. Congrats to the first for being Level-5's best seller before the sequel's launch.
Why? Another game filling in the void left by MH in the Sony portable ecosystem has more selling potential than an EO flavoured Persona spinoff. Persona is growing as a franchise, but it's not that huge.
Because Level 5.
Really excited to follow YW2's numbers though. Imagine if it sells 1 million in its first week and has legs like the original (probably won't but 1m first week would be amazing nonetheless).