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[Dalthien]

I Won image.

Ha ha - love the DS9 references.

Something I've noticed is that no one releases big games on the week of Obon or Golden week. Why is that? Wouldn't releasing it during those week rather than before those weeks produce more sales potential?

Same reason no one releases anything during the week of Christmas in the west. By releasing shortly before the holiday, you get the full launch sales during launch week, plus then you get (hopefully) a nice sustained boost of holiday sales on top of that during the holiday week.

By releasing during holiday week itself you run the risk of mixing launch sales with holiday boost sales and losing a bit of both in the process - either from retailers ordering too few copies, and the holiday is over before you can replenish supply - or just from having less time to have the game seep into the consumer's mindset. Holiday sales tend to skew towards the more casual consumer - so by having the game out a week or two in advance, there's a greater chance that they've become aware of the game (through advertising or word-of-mouth) by the time the holiday arrives.

 

[SpaceDrake]

So I'm in Japan right now, and I thought I'd share a little anecdote about the 3DS and Vita. It is an anecdote and isn't absolute gospel truth for everywhere in Japan, but I do find it interesting.

So I've seen 3DS adverts in a lot of places; they're plastered all over the Yamanote Line (the most active commuter train line in Japan) and I've seen a fair number of 3DSes in the wild. Still not as many as DSes (natch), but enough to notice. 3DS adverts are on TV, they're on the street, they're in store windows. The 3DS is everywhere at this point.

The one and only time I have seen the Vita advertised in a place that is not an actual storefront was at the train station which services the Tokyo Big Sight convention center, where Comiket is held. There the adverts were advertising its ability to stream anime, even more than any game focus. It was being peddled as something of an Otaku Dream Device.

The Vita isn't exactly going to gain traction if that's all the advertising SCEJ is doing for it. Because damn if it isn't invisible otherwise - even a lot of storefronts aren't bothering to advertise the fact that they have it up front.

(Amusingly, PSP software is still pretty prevalent in advertisement. Bushiroad has gone so far as to plaster up adverts for their second "Milky Holmes" VN on the Yamanote - which I found a little

-inducing TBH - there's a decent amount of advertising in various places around Japan and on TV, and Akihabara is still covered in presentation kiosks for PSP games. Nayuta no Kiseki, in particular, is everywhere (edit: in Akiba) right now, and I even found a shelf still dedicated to Ao no Kiseki in one store. Good times for Falcom, at least. Gonna be interested to see what kind of drop Nayuta takes in week 3, since it isn't performing quite to standard for its franchise so far.)

 

[slaughterking]

SpaceDrake's Village Report. Thanks for sharing.
I'm not surprised about the lack of Vita ads considering how there kinda is nothing to advertise.

 

[Cuddler]

So I'm in Japan right now, and I thought I'd share a little anecdote about the 3DS and Vita. It is an anecdote and isn't absolute gospel truth for everywhere in Japan, but I do find it interesting.

So I've seen 3DS adverts in a lot of places; they're plastered all over the Yamanote Line (the most active commuter train line in Japan) and I've seen a fair number of 3DSes in the wild. Still not as many as DSes (natch), but enough to notice. 3DS adverts are on TV, they're on the street, they're in store windows. The 3DS is everywhere at this point.

The one and only time I have seen the Vita advertised in a place that is not an actual storefront was at the train station which services the Tokyo Big Sight convention center, where Comiket is held. There the adverts were advertising its ability to stream anime, even more than any game focus. It was being peddled as something of an Otaku Dream Device.

The Vita isn't exactly going to gain traction if that's all the advertising SCEJ is doing for it. Because damn if it isn't invisible otherwise - even a lot of storefronts aren't bothering to advertise the fact that they have it up front.

(Amusingly, PSP software is still pretty prevalent in advertisement. Bushiroad has gone so far as to plaster up adverts for their second "Milky Holmes" VN on the Yamanote - which I found a little

-inducing TBH - there's a decent amount of advertising in various places around Japan and on TV, and Akihabara is still covered in presentation kiosks for PSP games. Nayuta no Kiseki, in particular, is everywhere (edit: in Akiba) right now, and I even found a shelf still dedicated to Ao no Kiseki in one store. Good times for Falcom, at least. Gonna be interested to see what kind of drop Nayuta takes in week 3, since it isn't performing quite to standard for its franchise so far.)

Sony is clearly hiding the vita on purpose so it can launch his new portable console during the holiday, the P2P, the playstation two portable, it's exactly like the vita, but no one knows about the vita, so a new portable console from SONY!

Spoiler

Clearly

 

[hiska-kun]

You wan an analysis? Ok!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40785579&postcount=442

Given the datas for the last 4 years, we have that in the pre-Obon week there's usually a small drop compared to the earlier week ( Wii had a 50% drop due to MH3's second week), then the Obon week shows increases for everyone, but much more for Nintendo platforms. Then, the post-Obon week is a return to other weeks' numbers, in some cases even lower than on pre-Obon week.

So, next week we should see a little drop for every platform.

I expect a little drop for the hardware next week as well, because sales were too high to boost again. But software should rise a little. At least games as Taiko no Tatsujin or Kirby.

 

[donny2112]

You wan an analysis? Ok!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40785579&postcount=442

Given the datas for the last 4 years, we have that in the pre-Obon week there's usually a small drop compared to the earlier week ( Wii had a 50% drop due to MH3's second week), then the Obon week shows increases for everyone, but much more for Nintendo platforms. Then, the post-Obon week is a return to other weeks' numbers, in some cases even lower than on pre-Obon week.

So, next week we should see a little drop for every platform.

Nice. Good to have an idea of what to look forward to. Will be interesting if 3DS get a rise (and how much, if so) with the new version just having launched.

Ha ha - love the DS9 references.

Glad someone got it. It's what came to mind with AniHawk's comment.

 

[test_account]

That was Media Create. MC also tracked more DQVII sales than were shipped, at the time, and tracked more Super Smash Bros. Melee sales than were shipped (I believe). In the software's case, they eventually went back and adjusted down, though. Famitsu has done the same from time to time.

Thanks. I knew it was one of the trackers, but couldnt remember exactly which one

 

[Chris1964]

So yes or no?

That's the info f-ism and Media Create give. If someone can find info how many retail stores there are in Japan you'll know the answer.

 

[Road]

July's best-selling games

01. [NDS] Pokemon Black/White 2 – 855,502 / 2,474,123
02. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 – 430,185 / NEW
03. [WII] Kirby’s Dream Collection – 131,720 / NEW
04. [3DS] Etrian Odyssey IV – 121,401 / NEW
05. [PS3] Persona 4 Arena – 117,318 / NEW
06. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigina Orb – 116,867 / NEW
07. [3DS] Rune Factory 4 – 107,513 / NEW
08. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry’s Wonderland 3D – 104,850 / 848,817
09. [PSP] Digimon World Reigitize – 103,345 / NEW
10. [3DS] Danball Senki Baku Boost – 96,196 / NEW

Famitsu, July, 2012 Market Value (YoY)
(2012/06/25~2012/07/29)
http://news.finance.yahoo.co.jp/detail/20120806-00112601-mosf-stocks

Software: 23.65 billion yen (+24.9%)
Hardware: 12.11 billion yen (+12.5%)

Total: 35.77 billion yen (+20.4%)

June, 2012

 

[Chris1964]

I won't be around for the new thread tomorrow. Holidays.

 

[donny2112]

Just got caught up on weekly data, so can do it. If anyone else wants to instead, just post here, though. Don't track Famitsu hardware, so that part will be blank (unless someone else does it) until you post your regular full format with the MC 21-50 update Thursday night/Friday morning.

 

[Hero of Legend]

Is Famitsu coming tonight, or will they take the week off?

 

[Nekki]

We're still quite a few hours from 'numbers'. Other than that it's anyones guess, but seeing as how they've released early for a couple of weeks now, i guess we'll get them at the same time this week.

 

[Road]

Dengeki Sales, Jul 30 - Aug 05, 2012 (Week 31)

01. (__) [WII] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsusu no Shuzoku Online (Square Enix) - 354,915 / 354,915 [ST: ~70% => 507,000]
02. (01) [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo) - 189,239 / 623,739 (-56%)
03. (06) [NDS] Pokemon Black 2 (Pokemon Co.) - 32,616 / 1,344,378 (-22%)
04. (05) [WII] Just Dance Wii 2 (Nintendo) - 28,006 / 88,612 (-54%)
05. (08) [NDS] Pokemon White 2 (Pokemon Co.) - 27,032 / 1,186,265 (-21%)
06. (07) [3DS] Oni Training (Nintendo) - 25,935 / 66,924 (-37%)
07. (02) [PS3] Persona 4 Arena (Atlus) - 23,322 / 146,872 (-81%)
08. (__) [NDS] All Kamen Rider: Rider Generation 2 (Bandai Namco) - 20,160 / 20,160
09. (10) [PSP] Digimon World Reigitize (Bandai Namco) - 19,540 / 123,766 (-39%)
10. (09) [WII] Kirby's Dream Collection Special Edition (Nintendo) - 17,147 / 147,748 (-48%)
11. (14) [3DS] Taiko Drum Master: Chibi Dragon to Fushigina Orb (Bandai Namco) - 15,695 / 130,025 (-28%)
12. (11) [3DS] Kobitodzukan: Kobito Kansatsu Set (Nippon Columbia) - 15,435 / 41,999 (-42%)
13. (03) [PSP] Nayuta no Kiseki (Nihon Falcom) - 14,673 / 89,442 (-80%)
14. (04) [PSP] Super Danganronpa 2: Sayonara Zetsubou Gakuen (Spike Chunsoft) - 14,261 / 75,770 (-77%)
15. (__) [PSP] All Kamen Rider: Rider Generation 2 (Bandai Namco) - 12,700 / 12,700
16. (13) [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2012 (Konami) - 11,394 / 95,761 (-48%)
17. (49) [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 10,600 / ?
18. (17) [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (Square Enix) - 10,557 / 852,379 (-17%)
19. (15) [3DS] Rune Factory 4 (Marvelous AQL) - 10,117 / 98,995 (-46%)
20. (18) [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Baku Boost (Level 5) - 9,074 / 112,863 (-25%)

*ST: Sell-through => estimated copies shipped.


Other software (first week / LTD):

2009-07-11 [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Skies [all prices] (Square Enix) - 2,323,000 / 4,400,000
2002-05-16 [PS2] Final Fantasy XI [all prices] (Square) - 76,000 / 245,000

Wii hardware: 42,000 (4.7x last week)

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/520/520992/
http://megalodon.jp/2012-0815-1221-48/news.dengeki.com/soft/ranking/ranking.html

Dengeki Sales: Week 30, 2012 (Jul 23 - Jul 29)

Previous Dengeki Posts (Thanks Cap. Smoker!)
2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012

 

[Gradivus]

Is Famitsu coming tonight, or will they take the week off?

Should be hear in about 10 hours or so.

 

[donny2112]

No Famitsu Top 1000 at GEIMIN, yet. Hasn't it come in August before, like a couple of years ago? Hopefully not too much longer...

 

[Hero of Legend]

Should be hear in about 10 hours or so.

You know I mean the magazine issue and not the numbers right?

 

[electroplankton]

So are we having numbers today?
Btw, I'm fairly impressed by LBX sales on 3DS.

 

[Gradivus]

You know I mean the magazine issue and not the numbers right?

My bad: (

 

[Road]

Famitsu: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201208/15019707.html

Media Create: http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20120815054/

 

[slaughterking]

The DQX disparity between both trackers remained roughly the same.

 

[jonno394]

146k/790k for NSMB2 according to famitsu. Up to 1 mil in about 2 weeks??

 

[Mpl90]

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201208/15019707.html

3DS - 108.897
PSVita - 8.805
Wii - 15.916
PS3 - 13.740
PSP - 12.208
360 - 517
PS2 - 445

What 3DS did this week is...ruh roh.

 

[Celine]

MC:
3DSLL 64,655
3DS 37,991
Wii 16,145
PS3 14,580
PSP 12,018
Vita 9,446
PS2 1,187
Xbox 360 998
DSi 525
DSi LL 427

 

[jonno394]

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201208/15019707.html

3DS - 108.897
PSVita - 8.805
Wii - 15.916
PS3 - 13.740
PSP - 12.208
360 - 517
PS2 - 445

What 3DS did this week is...ruh roh.

I don't quite follow?

 

[Cipherr]

Famitsu: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201208/15019707.html

Media Create: http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20120815054/

Google translate of the DQX article is priceless:

With weekly sales ranking to deliver, corner of "PickUp reader reviews." This week "software for Wii was released on August 2, 2012 Dragon Quest X the Awakened five online races will pick up. " 　This work has emerged as the first MMORPG "Dragon Quest" series. Only the title to face a lot of fans, or will be accepted if the attempt is a place online to worry about. 　Looking at the reader reviews, evaluation is divided into a low score that high score, as opposed to "want to play Dragon Quest is offline" that!

I don't quite follow?

Yeah me neither. None of that stuff on the chart is new release, and its over 100k. I dont get the 'uh oh'.

 

[Celine]

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201208/15019707.html

DQX 70K - LTD: 490K

 

[Gradivus]

Looks like the 3ds should stay around the 100,000 mark per week.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Great hold for the 3DS, PSVita...

 

[Mpl90]

I don't quite follow?

Last week it did 124k for MC and 119k for MC. This week, 102k and 109k respectively. It's a VERY low third week drop. And that's the week before the Obon. As said earlier, ruh roh.

Ah, yeah, Onitore around 100k.

 

[Cipherr]

Looks like the 3ds should stay around the 100,000 mark per week.

Definitely not. Itll make its way down to 50k or 60k a week or so over the time leading to the holidays easily. Its on a high right now because of recent releases.

Last week it did 124k for MC and 119k for MC. This week, 102k and 109k respectively. It's a VERY low third week drop.

Is it? It seems pretty normal to me. I dont have charts or anything but it doesnt seem like a surprising hold to me at all.

 

[jonno394]

Last week it did 124k for MC and 119k for MC. This week, 102k and 109k respectively. It's a VERY low third week drop. And that's the week before the Obon. As said earlier, ruh roh.

So ruh roh in a good way.....lol

 

[Kouriozan]

It was obvious from last week numbers, but it's great to see that 3DS XL isn't killing original 3DS sales.

 

[clemenx]

Do we know anything about Mario Digital/Retail split?

 

[metalslimer]

Well NSMB2 had a pretty good hold. Still not up to NSMB or NSMBW's first week, but good for Nintendo nonetheless.

 

[electroplankton]

Sorry but the most incredible game is Namco Bandai's Run for Money.

 

[You Are Viewtiful]

NSMB has decent legs, not as good as the DS/Wii versions but it's still something. Nice hold for the 3DS too.

Also nice legs for Onitore.

 

[LayLa]

Sorry but the most incredible game is Namco Bandai's Run for Money.

Yeh what is this game, and why the sudden huge bump?

 

[watershed]

So where's the new thread?

 

[metalslimer]

So where's the new thread?

Chris can't make it today.

 

[electroplankton]

Yeh what is this game, and why the sudden huge bump?

It's a sort of action/strategy game based on a TV show.
It's the second time it jumps in the chart, which means it has been sold out at least twice and Namco Bandai is not able to fully satisfy the demand. But such numbers are incredible from a game out of nowhere.

 

[Mpl90]

...HOLY SHIT just noticed now Run for the Money! Ridiculous! :lol

For those asking, the reason is that it was sold out / with low shipments last weeks.

 

[Gradivus]

That make 7,000,000 for the 3ds now?

 

[Kouriozan]

That make 7,000,000 for the 3ds now?

Yup.

 

[wrowa]

Chris can't make it today.

That's why someone else should make it!

Mpl90, what are you waiting for?