SMT IV is long running franchise while Dragon's Crown is a new IP, so I thought this little strange. Did they do massive advertising for the game?
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Media Create Sales: Week 33, 2013 (Aug 12 - Aug 18)
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SMT IV is long running franchise while Dragon's Crown is a new IP, so I thought this little strange. Did they do massive advertising for the game?
ElectricKaibutsu
Member
I enjoy reading the Media Create threads but rarely post in them. Doesn't "bomba" mean drastic price drop? Not "bomb"? Honest question.
Law Abiding Stranger
Banned
SMT games have horrible legs as the game sells to the hardcore fanbase and then dies next week.
DC had much more of broad appeal.
I guess that's true. Dragon's Crown also have western taste or to be exact, western tropes that quite possibly make it more appealing for broader audience.
By broad appeal, you mean the copious amounts of life and hometown right? Lol
mugurumakensei
Member
Not really SMT IV sold more than SMT III so it did about as good as could be expected. They're not exactly known to be friendly to everyone given ita difficulty, and its sticking to hardcore dungeon crawling w/ minimal story.
I would say the advertising was much heavier for SMT than Dragons Crown.
there were ads everywhere especially convenient stores where 3ds games are often sold.
michaelius
Banned
Hint: it sells less in USA than PSP did at similar point in it's life , not even talking about DS numbers.
Japan is a totally different market than the west when it comes to handhelds.
The 3DS might be king over there, but out in the west, it's doing alright at best compared to the DS.
That's okay. At least 3ds is doing much better than psp worldwide.
GreenMakoEyes
Member
Chris, where are my "next week releases"? Could you post them, please.
new releases
{2013.08.27}
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn # <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥3.300)
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn [Collector's Edition] <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥10.290)
{2013.08.28}
[360] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Anniversary 2013 Premium Package <ACT> (Capcom) (¥10.290)
{2013.08.29}
[3DS] Starry Sky: In Autumn 3D # <ADV> (Honeybee) (¥3.980)
[3DS] Starry Sky: In Autumn 3D [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Honeybee) (¥5.980)
[3DS] Sherlock Holmes: The Mystery of the Frozen City <PZL> (Intergrow) (¥5.040)
[PSV] Ragnarok Odyssey Ace <ACT> (GungHo Online Entertainment) (¥4.935)
[PSV] Hotchkiss # <ADV> (Technical Group Laboratory) (¥5.229)
[PSV] Hotchkiss [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Technical Group Laboratory) (¥6.279)
[PSV] NextRev: Eiken <EDU> (Media-5) (¥4.800)
[PSP] Seitokai no Ichizon Lv. 2 Portable # <ADV> (Kadokawa Shoten) (¥6.300)
[PSP] Seitokai no Ichizon Lv. 2 Portable [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Kadokawa Shoten) (¥8.400)
[PSP] Saki: Achiga-Hen Episode of Side-A Portable # <TBL> (Kaga Create) (¥7.140)
[PSP] Saki: Achiga-Hen Episode of Side-A Portable [Limited Edition] <TBL> (Kaga Create) (¥9.426)
[PSP] Solomon's Ring: Elemental Pack <ADV> (Plan Peace) (¥10.479)
[PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.980)
[PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle [Limited Quantity Production Golden Experience Box] <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.980)
[PS3] Lost Planet 3 <ACT> (Capcom) (¥6.990)
[PS3] Resonance of Fate (Sega the Best Revised Price) <RPG> (Sega) (¥2.940)
[360] Lost Planet 3 <ACT> (Capcom) (¥6.990)
{2013.08.27}
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn # <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥3.300)
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn [Collector's Edition] <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥10.290)
{2013.08.28}
[360] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Anniversary 2013 Premium Package <ACT> (Capcom) (¥10.290)
{2013.08.29}
[3DS] Starry Sky: In Autumn 3D # <ADV> (Honeybee) (¥3.980)
[3DS] Starry Sky: In Autumn 3D [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Honeybee) (¥5.980)
[3DS] Sherlock Holmes: The Mystery of the Frozen City <PZL> (Intergrow) (¥5.040)
[PSV] Ragnarok Odyssey Ace <ACT> (GungHo Online Entertainment) (¥4.935)
[PSV] Hotchkiss # <ADV> (Technical Group Laboratory) (¥5.229)
[PSV] Hotchkiss [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Technical Group Laboratory) (¥6.279)
[PSV] NextRev: Eiken <EDU> (Media-5) (¥4.800)
[PSP] Seitokai no Ichizon Lv. 2 Portable # <ADV> (Kadokawa Shoten) (¥6.300)
[PSP] Seitokai no Ichizon Lv. 2 Portable [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Kadokawa Shoten) (¥8.400)
[PSP] Saki: Achiga-Hen Episode of Side-A Portable # <TBL> (Kaga Create) (¥7.140)
[PSP] Saki: Achiga-Hen Episode of Side-A Portable [Limited Edition] <TBL> (Kaga Create) (¥9.426)
[PSP] Solomon's Ring: Elemental Pack <ADV> (Plan Peace) (¥10.479)
[PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.980)
[PS3] JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle [Limited Quantity Production Golden Experience Box] <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.980)
[PS3] Lost Planet 3 <ACT> (Capcom) (¥6.990)
[PS3] Resonance of Fate (Sega the Best Revised Price) <RPG> (Sega) (¥2.940)
[360] Lost Planet 3 <ACT> (Capcom) (¥6.990)
Aquamarine
Member
Code:
[B]DENGEKI TOP 50 SOFTWARE SALES
Week 33, 2013 (Aug 12 - Aug 18)[/B]
[U][B]RANK/L.WK TITLE PUBLISHER RELEASE SALES LTD[/B][/U]
1/1 3DS Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life Bandai Namco Games 13/08/01 43,404 200,370
2/2 3DS Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Nintendo 13/07/18 40,279 254,774
3/4 3DS Friend Collection: New Life Nintendo 13/04/18 27,858 1,388,951
4/3 3DS One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake Bandai Namco Games 13/08/08 15,407 38,120
5/8 3DS Animal Crossing: New Leaf Nintendo 12/11/08 14,763 3,322,494
6/9 3DS Youkai Watch Level 5 13/07/11 14,611 140,816
7/5 3DS Ace Attorney 5 Capcom 13/07/25 13,517 321,420
8/11 3DS Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Nintendo 13/03/20 12,571 870,994
9/10 Wii U Pikmin 3 Nintendo 13/07/13 12,533 175,202
10/7 PS3 Dragon's Crown Atlus 13/07/25 11,144 145,297
11/15 3DS Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D Nintendo 13/06/13 10,594 253,789
12/6 3DS Pokémon Torretta Lab for Nintendo 3DS Takara Tomy 13/08/10 8,961 27,249
13/14 3DS Fantasy Life: Link! Level 5 13/07/25 8,656 46,827
14/18 3DS Danball Senki eXperience W: Ultra Custom Level 5 13/07/18 8,283 61,272
15/22 Wii Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition Bandai Namco Games 12/11/29 7,767 537,106
16/20 3DS Hoppechan: Tsukutte! Asonde! Punipuni Town!! Nippon Columbia 13/07/25 7,372 27,962
17/13 Vita Dragon's Crown Atlus 13/07/25 7,269 105,552
18/31 3DS Mario Kart 7 Nintendo 11/12/01 6,800 2,063,474
19/23 Wii U New Super Luigi U Nintendo 13/07/13 6,553 61,757
20/28 3DS New Super Mario Bros. 2 Nintendo 12/07/28 6,465 1,999,129
21/16 PS3 The Witch and the Hundred Knights Nippon Ichi Software 13/07/25 5,906 80,831
22/21 PS3 Earth Defense Force 2025 D3 Publisher 13/07/04 5,871 235,110
23/27 PSP Toukiden Koei Tecmo 13/06/27 5,144 148,536
24/17 3DS Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger: Game de Kaburincho!! Bandai Namco Games 13/08/08 5,078 12,278
25/32 Vita Toukiden Koei Tecmo 13/06/27 4,994 216,743
26/34 3DS Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb Bandai Namco Games 12/07/12 4,929 508,396
27/30 Wii U LEGO City Undercover Nintendo 13/07/25 4,672 34,617
28/36 3DS Kuma-Tomo Bandai Namco Games 13/06/20 4,511 42,231
29/33 PSP Dangan-Ronpa (PSP the Best) Spike Chunsoft 11/11/23 4,440 93,945
30/38 3DS Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission Bandai Namco Games 13/02/28 4,347 238,061
31/35 PS3 The Last of Us SCE 13/06/20 3,911 194,555
32/39 Wii U New Super Mario Bros. U Nintendo 12/12/08 3,744 555,890
33/24 PS3 Killer Is Dead Kadokawa Games 13/08/01 3,550 25,278
34/46 Wii U Nintendo Land Nintendo 12/12/08 3,419 345,234
35/29 3DS Professor Layton Vs. Ace Attorney Level 5 12/11/29 3,263 273,257
36/43 3DS Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! Bandai Namco Games 12/07/05 3,241 540,711
37/40 3DS Doki Doki! PreCure Narikiri Life! Bandai Namco Games 13/08/01 3,117 10,224
38/19 PS3 Resident Evil 6: Special Package Capcom 13/08/08 3,106 9,661
39/42 3DS Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) Capcom 12/11/15 3,083 315,431
40/12 3DS Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-Kun SP: Rantou Kyousoukyoku Arc System Works 13/08/08 3,067 11,695
41/41 PSP Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 Konami 13/03/20 2,856 178,975
42/44 3DS Aikatsu! Cinderella Lesson Bandai Namco Games 12/11/15 2,833 145,018
43/48 3DS Super Mario 3D Land Nintendo 11/11/03 2,831 1,864,208
44/47 PSP God Eater: Burst (PSP the Best Reprint) Bandai Namco Games 13/06/06 2,815 17,532
45/26 Vita Mind/Zero Acquire 13/08/01 2,794 23,625
46/62 3DS Toriko: Gourmet Battle! Bandai Namco Games 13/07/04 2,706 28,639
47/49 3DS Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy Level 5 13/02/28 2,394 246,341
48/57 Wii Super Smash Bros. Brawl Nintendo 08/01/31 2,294 2,414,559
49/52 PSP Super Dangan-Ronpa 2: Sayonara Zetsubou Gakuen Spike Chunsoft 12/07/26 2,235 129,893
50/25 PSP VitaminR D3 Publisher 13/08/08 2,088 7,138Top 50
3DS - 28
PS3 - 6
PSP - 6
WIU - 5
PSV - 3
WII - 2
Sell-through Figures:
NONE - Obon Holiday
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[B]DENGEKI TOP 3 SOFTWARE SALES PER PLATFORM
Week 33, 2013 (Aug 12 - Aug 18)[/B]
[U][B]RANK TITLE PUBLISHER RELEASE SALES LTD[/B][/U]
[B]PS3 Top 3[/B]
1 Dragon's Crown Atlus 13/07/25 11,144 145,297
2 The Witch and the Hundred Knights Nippon Ichi Software 13/07/25 5,906 80,831
3 Earth Defense Force 2025 D3 Publisher 13/07/04 5,871 235,110
[B]PSV Top 3[/B]
1 Dragon's Crown Atlus 13/07/25 7,269 105,552
2 Toukiden Koei Tecmo 13/06/27 4,994 216,743
3 Mind/Zero Acquire 13/08/01 2,794 23,625
[B]PSP Top 3[/B]
1 Toukiden Koei Tecmo 13/06/27 5,144 148,536
2 Dangan-Ronpa (PSP the Best) Spike Chunsoft 11/11/23 4,440 93,945
3 Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 Konami 13/03/20 2,856 178,975
[B]WIU Top 3[/B]
1 Pikmin 3 Nintendo 13/07/13 12,533 175,202
2 New Super Luigi U Nintendo 13/07/13 6,553 61,757
3 LEGO City Undercover Nintendo 13/07/25 4,672 34,617
[B]WII Top 3[/B]
1 Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition Bandai Namco Games 12/11/29 7,767 537,106
2 Super Smash Bros. Brawl Nintendo 08/01/31 2,294 2,414,559
3 Mario Kart Wii Nintendo 08/04/10 1,882 3,586,694
[B]3DS Top 3[/B]
1 Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life Bandai Namco Games 13/08/01 43,404 200,370
2 Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Nintendo 13/07/18 40,279 254,774
3 Friend Collection: New Life Nintendo 13/04/18 27,858 1,388,951
[B]NDS Top 3[/B]
1 Pokémon Black 2 Pokémon Co. 12/06/23 2,059 1,617,039
2 Pokémon White 2 Pokémon Co. 12/06/23 1,641 1,415,774
3 Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Ultimate Hits) Square Enix 10/03/04 355 146,279
[B]360 Top 3[/B]
1 Earth Defense Force 2025 D3 Publisher 13/07/04 364 24,185
2 Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition Microsoft Studios 13/06/06 329 9,600
3 Resident Evil 6: Special Package Capcom 13/08/08 306 729
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[B]DENGEKI TOTAL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE SALES
Week 33, 2013 (Aug 12 - Aug 18)[/B]
[U][B]SYSTEM SALES SALES(%) L.WEEK L.WEEK(%) FY 2013 SALES FY 2013(%) FY 2013 (L.WEEK %)[/B][/U]
[B]SOFTWARE SALES:[/B]
PS3 89,960 14.7% 90,083 15.5% 3,170,212 24.9% 25.4%
Vita 34,834 5.7% 34,096 5.9% 963,311 7.6% 7.7%
PSP 61,199 10.0% 53,187 9.2% 1,576,816 12.4% 12.5%
Wii U 36,945 6.0% 30,805 5.3% 508,874 4.0% 3.9%
Wii 30,948 5.0% 20,957 3.6% 425,448 3.3% 3.3%
3DS 342,747 55.9% 335,747 57.9% 5,723,922 45.0% 44.4%
DS 12,017 2.0% 9,299 1.6% 187,521 1.5% 1.4%
X360 4,285 0.7% 5,685 1.0% 172,232 1.4% 1.4%
Total 612,935 100.0% 579,859 100.0% 12,728,336 100.0% 100.0%
[B]HARDWARE SALES:[/B]
PS3 14,261 11.2% 10,919 10.9% 247,597 12.8% 12.9%
Vita 20,126 15.8% 15,687 15.6% 300,076 15.5% 15.5%
PSP 7,140 5.6% 5,716 5.7% 130,656 6.7% 6.8%
Wii U 13,556 10.7% 10,277 10.3% 192,729 9.9% 9.9%
Wii 1,822 1.4% 1,367 1.4% 24,980 1.3% 1.3%
3DS LL 47,692 37.5% 38,123 38.0% 710,948 36.7% 36.6%
3DS 22,135 17.4% 17,808 17.8% 322,357 16.6% 16.6%
X360 508 0.4% 355 0.4% 8,179 0.4% 0.4%
Total 127,240 100.0% 100,252 100.0% 1,937,522 100.0% 100.0%
[B]*Note: FY 2013 refers to the period from April 2013 through March 2014[/B]GreenMakoEyes
Member
thanks! I am really curious how FFXIVARR will do.
michaelius
Banned
I wonder if that's another 100k seller on Vita list:
[PSV] Ragnarok Odyssey Ace <ACT> (GungHo Online Entertainment) (¥4.935)
[PSV] Ragnarok Odyssey Ace <ACT> (GungHo Online Entertainment) (¥4.935)
It's doing better than Soul Sacrifice. And it seems to have good legs. PSP and Vita, it has sold more than 350.000 copies, and it's still selling like 10k combined every week. So yes, I think it could find some kind of success (I think it could reach God Eater level of success). If the next Toukiden game is PSVita only, it could move some units for its PSP fanbase.
you mean monthly not LT, right? cause it sells more in US after 2.5 years but monthly number is behind now.
Sammy Samusu
Member
MH3U Rise Up This Is The Beginning
2,994 > 2,275 > 2,255 > 3,083 (315,431)
I wonder if MH4 will kill MH3U or bring new players.
Professor Layton Vs. Ace Attorney - 3,263 (273,257)
Still charting! Slay a bit.
Toukiden PSP - 4,822 > 5,144 (148,536)
Toukiden PSV - 4,372 > 4,994 (216,743)
Its first increase, I believe.
2,994 > 2,275 > 2,255 > 3,083 (315,431)
I wonder if MH4 will kill MH3U or bring new players.
Professor Layton Vs. Ace Attorney - 3,263 (273,257)
Still charting! Slay a bit.
Toukiden PSP - 4,822 > 5,144 (148,536)
Toukiden PSV - 4,372 > 4,994 (216,743)
Its first increase, I believe.
The original sold 75k, I don't think it's possible, especially not with a PS3 version.
Glass Rebel
Member
Anybody have a price comparison for the 3DS and DS at their same point of life?
So Yakuza Ishin was confirmed for an unspecified PlayStation platform and got its first screenshots.
I would say this is a pretty realistic bar for what a higher-mid tier Japanese developer will produce for the PS4 that focuses on graphics.
Things like Tales will presumably still look like uprezzed PS2 games with a bit of extra detail though.
There are way more here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=658453
I would say this is a pretty realistic bar for what a higher-mid tier Japanese developer will produce for the PS4 that focuses on graphics.
Things like Tales will presumably still look like uprezzed PS2 games with a bit of extra detail though.
There are way more here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=658453
The PSV LTD that make it so impressive since PSP have larger install base. I guess its true that Vita being a lively niche platform in Japan, since I think that Tecmo-Koei is quite niche on their own (I compared to Bamco, and SE lol).
Aquamarine
Member
June 2007 (2 years, 6 months from launch)
DS - 15,000 JPY (close to being fully discontinued with retailer discounts)
DS Lite - 16,800 JPY
August 2013 (2 years, 6 months from launch)
3DS - 15,000 JPY
3DS LL - 18,900 JPY
There isn't first day info for a Saturday release unless enterbrain decides to give early report on Monday or Tuesday for W101 record opening sales.
1st Course
Member
What the DS current price?
Considering the price it could do similar to DQX? Hopefully anyway.
Wonder how Ragnorak will do. It's another monster hunting action game right? Could do well with Vita's audience...but I wouldn't expect any jump in Vita's hardware sales for it.
If you expect DQX Wii performance get ready for huge disappointment.
As for Ragnarok Ace sinobi doesn't look very excited from its preorders.
Ragnarok is an enhanced version of a launch windows vita game. It did something like 75-100k. I don't expect this one to do much better, especially with the PS3 version. It was also kinda mediocre, so it might actually do worse...
I also assume there's only so much MH clone an audience is willing to buy in a year. They already got 2 of them this year, and there's another 2 coming...
So this was interesting: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=658709
15 Japanese publishers lead by Sega (including Capcom and Square Enix) have decided to start a mobile cross promotion alliance to save on advertising and distribution costs.
The goal is to help break away from the "double taxation" effect of paying both GREE/Mobage and the platform hold (Apple/Google) when selling mobile games.
They're hoping to get 15 more after they start.
I think this is the first time we've seen so many Japanese publishers unify around the same thing in quite some time.
I suspect this is also a sign of even more mobile focus from our major Japanese third parties, since they also plan to promote mobile games that aren't social games through this network.
15 Japanese publishers lead by Sega (including Capcom and Square Enix) have decided to start a mobile cross promotion alliance to save on advertising and distribution costs.
The goal is to help break away from the "double taxation" effect of paying both GREE/Mobage and the platform hold (Apple/Google) when selling mobile games.
They're hoping to get 15 more after they start.
I think this is the first time we've seen so many Japanese publishers unify around the same thing in quite some time.
I suspect this is also a sign of even more mobile focus from our major Japanese third parties, since they also plan to promote mobile games that aren't social games through this network.
They're essentially networks that span both feature phones and smartphones and your game gets promoted by them for being on the service (and you pay to be on the service).
They're essentially the publisher/distributor of the games on their service which are developed by publishers for them.
Or, put another way, in a traditional publisher/developer relationship, DeNA/GREE would be the publisher, and Square Enix/Sega/etc would be the developer.
So, instead of publishing through DeNA/GREE, these publishers are trying to make an advertising/cross-promotion network that's strong enough that they don't need to be on DeNA/GREE in order for their games to be a success, and thus make more money.
Basically they consider mobile to now be crucial enough to their business that improving margins on mobile games is important enough to invest in creating their own marketing/publishing network instead of using the existing ones.
Law Abiding Stranger
Banned
This was a no brainer, I don't even know why 3DS version was made.
BlackLagoon
Member
Pretty sure there has been quite a number of people in previous Media Create threads arguing that all Japanese console games should move over to the 3DS. That its much larger userbase and top selling franchises means everything would sell better on it.
Glass Rebel
Member
Thanks! Not sure what to make of it. The difference in price between DS lite and 3DS LL would be pretty negligible for me but I've suspected for a while that the form factor is a bigger reason.
ha, this is going to be fun
Sammy Samusu
Member
Obviously wrong, especially for a niche game like Conception, install base means shit here.
Well, with stuff like New Love Plus and Senran Kagura already on the system, you'd think there would be at least some sort of audience for this.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Suddenly I understand why there is so little overlap in monsters between MH3U and MH4.
Monokuma boss fight confirmed for pushing sales. People must really want to beat the crap out of him.
Aquamarine
Member
Amazon.co.jp is selling the DSi for a discounted 10,150 JPY (-32% off MSRP) through 11,599 JPY (-23%).
Although keep in mind, this is just offloading existing stock. NCL is no longer shipping new Nintendo DS consoles to Japanese retailers.
Oh okay. Thanks for the heads up.
Sammy Samusu
Member
But there is, otherwise we wouldn't see a 3DS version to a PSP sequel. Just not as much as on Sony platforms.
A random 50k game is a random 50k game, be it on a 10M or 1M install base.
Glass Rebel
Member
Some outrageous posts can and should be ignored.
I think mobile has certainly cut into the userbase. That being said, the software output, and more importantly, the QUALITY of the output, has allowed the 3DS to fly against those headwinds.
Seriously, almost every 1st party nintendo game on the 3DS is the best game in the respective franchise.
Toukiden is doing really well on both PS Vita and PSP. Currently on ~370k sold.
I think it could stretch to around 500k across both devices by the end of the year when factoring in digital download. (talking total shipped here)
Hopefully KOEI can give us a shipped number in November.
I think it could stretch to around 500k across both devices by the end of the year when factoring in digital download. (talking total shipped here)
Hopefully KOEI can give us a shipped number in November.
Really? I thought I was being kinda realistic in seeing FFXIV doing around 400k. Damn, that's gonna be some bad numbers if you're right.
Thanks did not know it was just an enhanced port!
metalmonstar
Member
That 3DS domination. Pretty crazy that over half of the top 30 had increases in sales. It is crazy to see Pikmin 2 in the top 30. Also Brawl is in the top 50. Mind/Zero is already on its way out of the top 50.