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Media Create Sales: Week 39, 2012 (Sep 24 - Sep 30)
- Thread starter Chris1964
- Start date
For Wii U: promotion and preorders state
Vita's availability ( brand new units, used units)
How shelves are organized between all the platforms now
Bravely Default, Project X Zone, Layton v.s. AA, Animal Crossing, big PS3 games: promotion and what else
And then something strange like the Kirby Bubblegum the last time
New releases {2012.10.11}
[3DS] Nintendo 3DS LL Blue × Black <H-W> (Nintendo) (¥18.900)
[3DS] Project X Zone <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.280)
[3DS] Bravely Default: Flying Fairy <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥6.090)
[3DS] Hello Kitty to Issho! Block Crash Z <ACT> (Dorart) (¥4.200)
[NDS] Eibun Tadoku DS: Sekai no Bungaku Senshuu (Benkyou Shien Tokka-han) <EDU> (IE Institute) (¥2.500)
[NDS] Eibun Tadoku DS: Sekai no Meisaku Douwa (Benkyou Shien Tokka-han) <EDU> (IE Institute) (¥2.500)
[NDS] Hideo Kageyama: Reading Aloud Repetition English DS (Benkyou Shien Tokka-han) <EDU> (IE Institute) (¥2.500)
[NDS] Steve Soresi no Business Eikaiwa PeraPera DS Training (Benkyou Shien Tokka-han) <EDU> (IE Institute) (¥2.500)
[PSP] Diabolik Lovers # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Diabolik Lovers [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.190)
[PS3] Tokitowa: Time and Eternity # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.980)
[PS3] Tokitowa: Time and Eternity [Limited Edition] <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥9.980)
[PS3] Dishonored <ACT> (Bethesda Softworks) (¥5.980)
[PS3] Rocksmith <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥8.880)
[360] Fable: The Journey <RPG> (Microsoft Game Studios) (¥7.140)
[360] Dishonored <ACT> (Bethesda Softworks) (¥5.980)
[360] Rocksmith <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥8.880)
[3DS] Nintendo 3DS LL Blue × Black <H-W> (Nintendo) (¥18.900)
[3DS] Project X Zone <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.280)
[3DS] Bravely Default: Flying Fairy <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥6.090)
[3DS] Hello Kitty to Issho! Block Crash Z <ACT> (Dorart) (¥4.200)
[NDS] Eibun Tadoku DS: Sekai no Bungaku Senshuu (Benkyou Shien Tokka-han) <EDU> (IE Institute) (¥2.500)
[NDS] Eibun Tadoku DS: Sekai no Meisaku Douwa (Benkyou Shien Tokka-han) <EDU> (IE Institute) (¥2.500)
[NDS] Hideo Kageyama: Reading Aloud Repetition English DS (Benkyou Shien Tokka-han) <EDU> (IE Institute) (¥2.500)
[NDS] Steve Soresi no Business Eikaiwa PeraPera DS Training (Benkyou Shien Tokka-han) <EDU> (IE Institute) (¥2.500)
[PSP] Diabolik Lovers # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Diabolik Lovers [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.190)
[PS3] Tokitowa: Time and Eternity # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.980)
[PS3] Tokitowa: Time and Eternity [Limited Edition] <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥9.980)
[PS3] Dishonored <ACT> (Bethesda Softworks) (¥5.980)
[PS3] Rocksmith <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥8.880)
[360] Fable: The Journey <RPG> (Microsoft Game Studios) (¥7.140)
[360] Dishonored <ACT> (Bethesda Softworks) (¥5.980)
[360] Rocksmith <ACT> (Ubisoft) (¥8.880)
Sinobi has heard that Animal Crossing: Jump Out's initial shipment number won't even reach 200k, despite Animal Crossing: City Folk selling 300k in its first week. This might change depending on how pre orders turn out, but he still feels a shortage might be inevitable.
Does Sinobi have a poor reputation when it comes to shipment numbers? I ask because he spams Amazon links that are filled with referrals, and he adds things like "better pre order now!". Does he just try to make it seem like there's going to be low stock for certain items so people pre order stuff from his referrals?
Does Sinobi have a poor reputation when it comes to shipment numbers? I ask because he spams Amazon links that are filled with referrals, and he adds things like "better pre order now!". Does he just try to make it seem like there's going to be low stock for certain items so people pre order stuff from his referrals?
No, he has very good sources. What he says is possibly true at the moment.
electroplankton
Banned
Animal Crossing: City Folk was released a bit later, on November 20th. Is is possible that Nintendo is trying to pull the demand of the game to December? Animal Crossing could sell really well, basically a million units before the end of the year should be a lock.
It all depends on how well Nintendo handles this. If they do the slightest mistake then I guess sales will fall of a cliff
test_account
XP-39C²
About Animal Crossing 3DS, what are people expecting it to sell? Similar to what the DS version did?
Yeah, their lowered forecast (14 million) was almost reached. But their 1st forecast was 16 million at $250, not factoring in the big pricedrop. And Sony's first forecast wont come close indeed, but a pricedrop like Nintendo did could make it come a bit closer at least. In fairness to all though, it is hard to know exactly how much new products will sell for the first year.
Sammy Samusu
Member
electroplankton
Banned
Well, Jump Out is the holiday title.
Not at all. Wild World reached 5 million units sold, and that's something really unprecedent. But it could sell really well, surely better than what City Folk did.
BishopLamont
Banned
Artificial shortages.
perhaps to try people to get to buy the download cards?
Here's the link to the entry in Sinobi's blog if anyone wants to check it themselves. I can't figure out why they'd go that low, either, outside of a digital push.
http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11372565097.html
http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-11372565097.html
Allan Holdsworth
Member
Nah, for now I only expect it to cross 2 mil. 3 mil might be possible, but who knows.
Also, isn't it usual to have a 2nd shipment on the weekend? Or is sinobi talking about 200k for the whole week?
It's not usual, but does happen depending on how prepared a publisher is. Even with an initial shipment of 200k I imagine Nintendo would have new shipments ready to go quickly considering the sales pattern of past Animal Crossing titles.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Do we really think that Animal Crossing will be the first 2 million seller for 3DS? Are we sure this title has enough improvements to the series that people will be excited again? Could City Folk have turned a portion of the userbase sour?
I'm not doubting the sales potential, but definitely interesting things to think about.
I'm not doubting the sales potential, but definitely interesting things to think about.
There seems to be a consensus that this entry has the most substantial additions of any Animal Crossing since the first one came out. Or that's the impression I've gotten from people who closely follow the series.
That wouldn't preclude City Folk making people wary of a new entry, but Nintendo seems to have done a good job explaining all the new additions in the game. Like giving it a 45 minute Nintendo Direct all to itself.
metalslimer
Member
Uh it won't be the first title to reach 2 million, but with its legs it definitely will unless interest has completely collapsed. I imagine NSMB2 will be the first sometime early next year.
MasterSheen
Member
MK7 could be the first to hit 2m if the holidays bump it enough.
:lol
If sales were related to how much the game improved between versions, the DS game would've sold 500K or less.
Blasphemy!:lol
If sales were related to how much the game improved between versions, the DS game would've sold 500K or less.
It seems like ever since Nintendo over-shipped some of their DS titles they have been very conservative with first shipments to avoid price collapses. There is also still a month or so to go. Have commercials even started? I imagine retailers can still up their orders if interest picks up.
bigtroyjon
Member
Nintendo missed their forecast by quite a bit. They even missed the revised forecast that dropped it by 2 million.
Allan Holdsworth
Member
Which titles? Spirit Tracks is the big one, of course, but I can only think about the 2nd Tingle game other than that (and I only know about it cause I bought it for 1000 yen new)
Not at all.
I think that some Wii ad DS titles have signed records that will be repeated only in many years, in particular economical/mode situations (and not necessarely by Nintendo itself). Something like the Wii selling 4 million units in one month only in the US, or MH selling 5 millions with a single SKU in Japan only.
I think it will sell well, with a LTD over 2 millions, btw.
It depends on the franchises, userbase isnt all - there are many 3DS titles that perform as well or even better than their DS counter parts did with a way bigger installed base. Casual titles tend to profit more from bigger userbases, so that would be the case with Animal Crossing but still i wouldnt underestimate the strengthen social features which the 3DS bring to these titles. Especially with Street Pass/Spot Pass i could see games like AC and Tomodachi Collection perform very strong even with lower 3DS hardware sales.
Anything less than 2.5-3 millions LTD would be surprising for me.
What a cumbersome strategy. First, they avoid pissing the retailers off by fixing sky high prices for DD titles. And then, they want to promote their own services by motivating people in finding alternative ways to get their hands on the title if supply is short.
Sly Nintendo.
Well, I wasn't referring to the install base, talking about records.
I think that in the past gen (Wii-DS) there were particular moments that, working together, set huge results. It will be hard to see those results again in the next years, imho.
and that doesn't mean that a game or a console unable to re-do those records is a flop.
I seem to remember they over-shipped some casual titles later in the life of the Nintendo DS, could be wrong. (I do believe City Folk was woefully over-shipped though.) Anyway, this reminds me of the initial disbelief at the low first shipment of Monster Hunter 3G.
I guess Skyward Sword's low sales are largely due to a combination of releasing really late in the Wii's life and the motion plus requirement? I remember it getting a 40/40 from Famitsu and combined with being a well known series, I assumed it would've sold more.
through week 2012-07-23
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 552,476
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass 902,386
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks 725,904
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D 498,145
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 297,441
I wouldn't be too surprised if they did a handheld New Legend Of Zelda next, based on the Link to the Past/Awakening type of design.
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 552,476
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass 902,386
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks 725,904
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D 498,145
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword 297,441
I wouldn't be too surprised if they did a handheld New Legend Of Zelda next, based on the Link to the Past/Awakening type of design.
grimshawish
Banned
Anyone know how long has it taken previous platforms to have a 2m hit?
I think so - only thing that makes sense.
Improving the 3DS accounts would honestly help a lot more; atm I think people probably feel their not buying anything - Nintendo needs to make it feel physical and that their download is secure.
Agree; portable seems like the way to go for the series - OoT showed the 3DS as a capable device in this respect.
Personally I'd keep the artstyle of OoT for 3DS games and go back to Windwaker style on WiiU
I think so - only thing that makes sense.
Improving the 3DS accounts would honestly help a lot more; atm I think people probably feel their not buying anything - Nintendo needs to make it feel physical and that their download is secure.
Agree; portable seems like the way to go for the series - OoT showed the 3DS as a capable device in this respect.
Personally I'd keep the artstyle of OoT for 3DS games and go back to Windwaker style on WiiU
believe[/believe]
I think that Oot remake did very well, honestly.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
:lol
If sales were related to how much the game improved between versions, the DS game would've sold 500K or less.
Yeah but that was different. AC is a game meant for handhelds. A transition to a portable system for the first time was enough to warrant a purchase. City Folk got a lot of criticism as gamers wanted more from the series, and I think the same standards will be in place for the 3DS version. The game will sell, there's no question about that, but I think if Nintendo fails on the improvements, or doesn't do a good job differentiating itself within the series it won't do as well as some people think it could.
StreetsAhead
Member
I think, based on what we've seen, there's more than enough new stuff to justify purchase for most fans.
grimshawish
Banned
Nintendo will certainly be very happy with it - Zelda showed it still has big power by propping the 3DS up.
Its Animal Crossing; theres only so much you can do.
Medarot 7.
Medarot 7 is outselling Medarot DS in the same period of time. It's just an issue of expectations. Rocket Company expected more than what they're getting right now based on that 120k first shipment.
Doubt it - OoT showed that there is now a market on handheld for "real" 3D zeldas. They should release a Wind Waker or TP style 3D zelda on 3DS.
I would totally buy a TP port on 3DS
How come ? It shows that retailers expected more, i dont see how Rocket Company could be disappointed with sales so far - the game looks horrible lol....
They had a much larger marketing presence than the previous release and are only about 10k ahead with a much larger first shipment. As for the quality of the game, it's a case where the visuals aren't everything. User reviews have pointed it to be a much better game than DS was. As for the visuals themselves, they're simple enough to allow for AA to give a rather clean look which is something not too common with 3DS games.
alfredofroylan
Member
So how was the day for WiiU preorders? Amazon shows sold out for all models and some resellers are asking for 43000 yen for the premium package, 39800 for the standard edition and 52800 for the MH edition.
