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So far this is a comparison between the amount of copies Capcom managed to ship for Monster Hunter Portable 3rd and Monster Hunter 4.

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|    |  [B]MH Portable 3rd[/B]  |  [B]Monster Hunter 4[/B] |  [B]Difference[/B]  |
|    | [PSP] (2010.12.01)| [3DS] (2013.09.14)|              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   | MHP3rd - MH4 |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  1 |2.146.467|2.146.467|1.875.115|1.875.115|      -271.352|
|  2 |  514.198|2.660.665|  432.286|2.307.401|      -353.264|
|  3 |  434.837|3.095.502|  234.713|2.542.114|      -553.388|  
|  4 |  385.487|3.480.989|  164.593|2.706.707|      -774.282| 
|  5 |  317.471|3.798.460|         |         |              |  
|  6 |  155.839|3.954.299|         |         |              |  
|  7 |   80.703|4.035.002|         |         |              |  
|  8 |   56.450|4.091.452|         |         |              |  
|  9 |   39.453|4.130.905|         |         |              | 
| 10 |   32.655|4.163.560|         |         |              |
| 11 |  104.900|4.268.460|         |         |              |
| 12 |   26.865|4.295.325|         |         |              |
| 13 |   20.594|4.315.919|         |         |              |
| 14 |   16.912|4.332.831|         |         |              |
| 15 |   13.981|4.346.722|         |         |              |
| 16 |   11.924|4.358.646|         |         |              |
| 17 |   13.536|4.372.182|         |         |              |
| 18 |   12.946|4.385.128|         |         |              |
| 19 |    9.589|4.394.171|         |         |              |
| 20 |    6.246|4.400.963|         |         |              |
| 21 |    5.929|4.406.892|         |         |              |
| 22 |    7.442|4.414.334|         |         |              |
| 23 |    7.381|4.421.175|         |         |              |
| 24 |    3.844|4.425.599|         |         |              |
| 25 |    3.766|4.429.365|         |         |              |
| 26 |    4.360|4.433.725|         |         |              |
| 27 |    4.170|4.437.895|         |         |              |
| 28 |    3.856|4.441.751|         |         |              |
| 29 |    3.796|4.445.547|         |         |              |
| 30 |    3.711|4.449.258|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Year|   YTD   |   LTD   |   YTD   |   LTD   |  Difference  |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  1 |3.480.989|3.480.989|2.706.707|2.706.707|      -774.282|
|  2 |1.024.457|4.502.446|        -|        -|             -|
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| LTD|        -|4.502.446|        -|2.706.707|    -1.795.739|     
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[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (Capcom) {2010.12.01} - 2.146.467 / 4.502.446
[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (PSP the Best) (Capcom) {2011.09.22} - 15.113 / 324.206

Total - 4.826.665

[3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom) {2013.09.14} - 1.875.115 / 2.706.707

There's too much competition on the 3DS for Monster Hunter.

 

[pieatorium]

Hmm, the Vita currently has a set price of 19980 yen, right? So the Vita 2000 comes in slightly cheaper at 18980, which is about a $20-25$ price cut. Does that count?

your math is off there

 

[Lexxism]

Hmm, the Vita currently has a set price of 19980 yen, right? So the Vita 2000 comes in slightly cheaper at 18980, which is about a $20-25$ price cut. Does that count?

Not really $20 but $10. 1000 yen = $10

 

[ILoveBish]

Bravo good sir.

 

[Turrican3]

Wii U emergency price cut incoming (not 3DS-like obviously) or is it out of question in Japan?

 

[Kenka]

 

[FreedomFighter]

There's too much competition on the 3DS for Monster Hunter.

More like there are too few copies in stores to purchase.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

There's too much competition on the 3DS for Monster Hunter.

Monster Hunter has a 99.6% sell through. Its not selling as fast as MH3P because Capcom can't print copies fast enough.

 

[Yanikun]

Hmm, the Vita currently has a set price of 19980 yen, right? So the Vita 2000 comes in slightly cheaper at 18980, which is about a $20-25$ price cut. Does that count?

Not really. Handheld video games tend to hover around 4800 to 6000 yen, so it's a minuscule drop. For comparison, at the theater my wife goes to, a ticket is 1300 yen.

 

[phosphor112]

PSV and Wii U am cry.

 

[zroid]

Wii U price cut incoming or is it out of question in Japan?

well if the crazy bundle flops, i don't see how they'll have a choice but to cut the price.

 

[FreedomFighter]

3DS raising the bar from the race to 2 million to the race to 4 million.

 

[schuelma]

Wii U emergency price cut incoming (not 3DS-like obviously) or is it out of question in Japan?

Not for this year. I would bet on one to coincide with Mario Kart.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

your math is off there

Whoops, $10-15$. Still, does that count?

For some reason the article I picked out had the 19980 as roughly $212 USD and the 18980 as 190 USD. Exchange rates. How do they work?

 

[FreedomFighter]

well if the crazy bundle flops, i don't see how they'll have a choice but to cut the price.

At that point, they need to do a Sony move the do a controlled hemorrhage to right the Wii U ship. They don't have to lose as much as Sony did to revitalize the PS3, but they'll have to do something almost as drastic.

 

[strangedopamine]

Hmm, the Vita currently has a set price of 19980 yen, right? So the Vita 2000 comes in slightly cheaper at 18980, which is about a $20-25$ price cut. Does that count?

It's actually just a $10 cut. Right now:

19980 yen = $205
18980 yen = $195

Edit: Beaten.

 

[The_Joker1721]

Sorry that this question needs to be asked GAF Buddies but, is there any chance ANY chance at all pokemon doesn't slaughter it in numbers next week? Is this the most hyped pokemon game ever or what?

 

[Scum]

well if the crazy bundle flops, i don't see how they'll have a choice but to cut the price.

I think the bundle will flop. Shame that MK8 isn't out this year.
#Ambassador 2.0

 

[FreedomFighter]

I think the bundle will flop. Shame that MK8 isn't out this year.
#Ambassador 2.0

I'd be all over ambassador games. Gimme some GC games, Nintendo.

Spoiler

start with F-Zero GX

 

[Turrican3]

well if the crazy bundle flops, i don't see how they'll have a choice but to cut the price.

You mean these, right?

I had completely forgot about them... we'll see how it turns out for Nintendo.

 

[Aquamarine]

Sorry that this question needs to be asked GAF Buddies but, is there any chance ANY chance at all pokemon doesn't slaughter it in numbers next week? Is this the most hyped pokemon game ever or what?

Preorders are >1.26 million copies (most preordered game in Japan on the 3DS).

 

[michaelius]

And here we go again

Tales of Hearts R for smartphones:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=694238

 

[BlackJace]

Sorry that this question needs to be asked GAF Buddies but, is there any chance ANY chance at all pokemon doesn't slaughter it in numbers next week? Is this the most hyped pokemon game ever or what?

The preorders have exceeded 1 million. It's about to go down.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

Sorry that this question needs to be asked GAF Buddies but, is there any chance ANY chance at all pokemon doesn't slaughter it in numbers next week? Is this the most hyped pokemon game ever or what?

I believe reports are coming in that it is already sold out prior to release. That and MH4 shortages.

 

[Gianni Merryman]

joke?

I admit my prediction is on the optimistic side, but taking into account November+December sales I am assuming 3DS may easily reach 15-16 million LTD by the end of the year, and with the help of some big seller and a new model, I wouldn't dismiss the idea of 3DS catching up with PSP LTD by mid 2014.

 

[Ratrat]

They should have dropped the price with the bundle not hike it up. It's not that great a value if you don't want those specific games.

 

[airmangataosenai]

Explainable or not, they're still horrendous.

Again, PS3 the week before a hardware revision had sales around 1,000 units. 3DS hit 5k the week before the price drop. It's not to say it's meaningless but you can't always read too much into a single week of sales.

 

[Irminsul]

What's up with the heat wave joke? Sorry to ask, I'm no regular visitor to sales threads.

 

[Aquamarine]

What's up with the heat wave joke? Sorry to ask, I'm no regular visitor to sales threads.

It stemmed from this comment:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=71047806&postcount=38

 

[frankie_baby]

It's actually just a $10 cut. Right now:

19980 yen = $205
18980 yen = $195

Edit: Beaten.

isn't the actual price drop 60 yen not 1000 yen

 

[schuelma]

They should have dropped the price with the bundle not hike it up. It's not that great a value if you don't want those specific games.

Those bundles are clearly aimed at the old Wii owners who presumably would be interested in those games. I agree though that a price drop would still have been a better way to go.

 

[Captain Smoker]

3DS Beast Mode.

 

[strangedopamine]

What's up with the heat wave joke? Sorry to ask, I'm no regular visitor to sales threads.

Some weeks ago Serebii made a comment saying that the reason the Wii U was selling badly was because of a freak heatwave in Japan, stopping people from going to the shops or Pokémon Centers.

 

[cyberheater]

Looks like Wind Waker has done essentially nothing to help the Wii U...if Mario doesn't move units then Nintendo has a real problem on its hands.

They have a big problem on their hands. Mario won't move big numbers.

 

[The_Joker1721]

I believe reports are coming in that it is already sold out prior to release. That and MH4 shortages.

The preorders have exceeded 2 million. It's about to go down.

Preorders are >1.26 million copies

Jesus. I guess the storm is brewing.

 

[Grampasso]

Next week is GTA V, finally kicking MH4 from nr 1.

Pokemons say hi?

 

[Metallix87]

Why is the Vita doing so badly while the software sales for it are alright? Are Japanese gamers seriously holding out for the inferior revision or something?! And it costs the same as well.

People buying those games already own the system.

 

[Ridley327]

Epic Mickey for 3DS, with a horrid 20-40% second-week sellthrough and only 2,905 sold on its second week, is overall quite a disappointment for Spike Chunsoft and Disney.

You would think after the success that was Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life that Disney games would be more popular, but it appears to be on a game-by-game basis.

Japan has had nearly an entire year to read online about how terrible the game is, so no surprise there.

 

[liger05]

Some weeks ago Serebii made a comment saying that the reason the Wii U was selling badly was because of a freak heatwave in Japan, stopping people from going to the shops or Pokémon Centers.

Wasn’t it down to the low Pikmin 3 sales?

 

[Canis lupus]

Pokemons say hi?

I have like, had 4 posts on this already.

 

[Anth0ny]

OMG Wii U and Vita.

Dear lord. I know there's revisions and bundles coming but still....

 

[michaelius]

Looks like Wind Waker has done essentially nothing to help the Wii U...if Mario doesn't move units then Nintendo has a real problem on its hands.

It will move some units - but you can't have healthy console without steady stream of new releases and that won't happen due to lack of third parties interest.

 

[1st Course]

So any ones post Psp 1000 to 2000 preceding weeks?

PSP-2000 was released on September 20, 2007 in Japan:

Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2007 (Sep 3 - Sep 9)
Media Create Sales: Week 37, 2007 (Sep 10 - Sep 16)
Media Create Sales: Week 38, 2007 (Sep 17 - Sep 23)
Media Create Sales: Week 39, 2007 (Sep 24 - Sep 30)

PSP 3000 was released on October 16, 2008 in Japan:

Media Create Sales: Week 41, 2008 (Oct 6 - Oct 12)
Media Create Sales: Week 42, 2008 (Oct 13 - Oct 19)
Media Create Sales: Week 43, 2008 (Oct 20 - Oct 26)
Media Create Sales: Week 44, 2008 (Oct 27 - Nov 2)

 

[Irminsul]

It stemmed from this comment:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=71047806&postcount=38

Some weeks ago Serebii made a comment saying that the reason the Wii U was selling badly was because of a freak heatwave in Japan, stopping people from going to the shops or Pokémon Centers.

Thanks to you two. It is quite warm in Tokyo though, if I'm applying my totally inappropriate European expectations to what October temperatures should look like.

On Topic: I wonder how long 3DS will have > 80% of the HW market share. Probably until the PS4 arrives.

 

[strangedopamine]

Wasn’t it down to the low Pikmin 3 sales?

That too.

Here's the follow-up post in case you want it:

Here

 

[Effect]

The Wii U bundles are 3 weeks away? 3 more weeks of these numbers then, or is there a software release in between?

The thing to see is if those even help. If not then I don't know what Nintendo can possibly do. Either cut the system off early or resign to have it limp along for a few more years while they prepare a system that is closer to the PS4/XB1 while begging third parties for versions of games once the system is out. All the while trying to prop up the Wii U with first party titles as best they can to not burn bridges with the customers they do have.

Nintendo needs to stop being so insular. They need non-Japanese in high positions of power that have more of a world view of the market. Doesn't mean they need to stop marking the games they are making but how they present things and how they interact with other companies and customers needs to change. What they are doing is clearly not working. From centralizing everything to Japan and to one person to even allowing Nintendo Power to die. It's been a downward spiral with almost no bumps. As Nintendo fans and WiiU owner I hate seeing this and it can't be ignored.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

So what is Capcom's excuse for MH4 shipments?

 

[liger05]

It will move some units - but you can't have healthy console without steady stream of new releases and that won't happen due to lack of third parties interest.

And this is the real issue. The console has no 3rd party support with amazingly the 3rd party support being even worse in Japan than the West which shouldn’t even be possible when you look at how bad it is in the west.

Relying on one game whether it be Mario 3D or MK8 to somehow save the day is just not realistic. The console needs a steady stream of software releases which doesn’t look like happening so the occasional bump will soon result in a return to the dreadful numbers we have seen for the last few months.

 

[Nirolak]

OMG Wii U and Vita.

Dear lord. I know there's revisions and bundles coming but still....

I'm not sure how much those even address the core issues.

For the Vita, it's not like there's some major game coming out in tandem with it. If someone was sold a month ago, maybe they were waiting until now, but I'm kind of doubting tons of people were chomping at the bit after seeing a line-up that largely consisted of exactly the same types of things the Vita was already getting. Could it be helpful when those games actually come out? Probably, but at that point it's rather hard to tell if the impact was more than a few thousand units.

With the Wii U I feel there's a similar problem. It tries to take the type stuff that was already released on the system (Mario and more casual friendly games) and then improve the value proposition a bit. Could that win some people over? Sure, but it's still a highly expensive proposition toward an audience not known for buying tons of sequels. How many Wii owners want to buy a new version of Wii Fit with a $300 box instead of just using their current one? How many people were totally sold on NSMBU, but were sitting there going "If only it was bundled!"?

 

[Miles X]

There's no price drop in JP since the price is much better there compare to the West.

Thanks! Again anyone know what the bundles are?