Sammy Samusu
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Yodobashi: Thursday, Oct 16
Amazon: Next Monday, Oct 20 (lol)
Honestly, I wasn't expecting a reprise of MH4, but I guess it's better this way than not selling at all.
Monster Hunter 4, Digital September 2013: 225,324
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Media Create Sales: Week 40, 2014 (Sep 29 - Oct 05)
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Amazon: Next Monday, Oct 20 (lol)
Honestly, I wasn't expecting a reprise of MH4, but I guess it's better this way than not selling at all.
Monster Hunter 4, Digital September 2013: 225,324
I'm kind of surprised at how well Final Fantasy: Record Keeper is holding. Spot 5 is like Big Money tier.
The user reviews are also surprisingly solid for what looked liked a conceptually outdated mobile game at first glance. Maybe it doesn't work like I'm assuming.
~A fantasy based on Divality~
The user reviews are also surprisingly solid for what looked liked a conceptually outdated mobile game at first glance. Maybe it doesn't work like I'm assuming.
~A fantasy based on Divality~
Ehhhhhhhhhhh...sure? Why not.
Pennywise83
Banned
How much money would a number 5 app generate?
Also, there is a publisher and a platform here; Square Enix would get something like 30% of the revenues, a really low margin.
Also, there is a publisher and a platform here; Square Enix would get something like 30% of the revenues, a really low margin.
Yeah, this is a bigger deal for DeNA than Square for sure.
We know that #3 is around ~$1 million a day the last time we got an update, and #1 has been in the $3-$4 million range, but 11 drops down to $90K.
Given how frequently we see games bump between the 3-5 range though, I can't imagine it's less than several hundred thousand a day, even accounting for huge spending swings.
I wonder if I can reverse engineer this somehow based on Mixi's earnings. They were pretty stable at various positions as they climbed the charts and Monster Strike is like a gigantic portion of their revenue IIRC.
Okay so for spot #2, in July, that was approximately $2 million per day given Monster Strike spent almost the entire month there and made $60 million in Japan off the game: https://twitter.com/gibbogame/status/498025741712232448
If for P&D's number he also means only Japan, that would be $4.8 million a day at #1, though it could very easily be a global number (with a lot of that still coming from Japan).
I'll see if I can find anything more concrete non #4-#10, since that's a very solid concern.
Edit: And looking at Mixi's April-June stats, it'd match up with #3 being about $1 million a day.
If for P&D's number he also means only Japan, that would be $4.8 million a day at #1, though it could very easily be a global number (with a lot of that still coming from Japan).
I'll see if I can find anything more concrete non #4-#10, since that's a very solid concern.
Edit: And looking at Mixi's April-June stats, it'd match up with #3 being about $1 million a day.
Pennywise83
Banned
So it seems that the market is highly concentrate; few games make a lot per day, but there is of course a long tail of respectable earners.
Yes, the revenue is incredibly concentrated in the top 5, and the top 20 for the next tier, and then it starts dropping a lot.
If you're not in the top 20, based on social games company statements, you usually don't view the title as a major success, even if it's considered a contributor.
I don't see many games get mentioned outside the top 50 as a notable contributor in the sense they rarely ever get a specific call-out.
For a smaller company, a lower hit can be seen as good, but it's comparable to say how we cheer something low end selling 100K copies.
Edit:
Actually, you also gave me an idea. I can make a rank chart that matches the Sega income per month chart since their games are only out in Japan.
Pennywise83
Banned
This would be cool.
Of course it is still difficult to assess the success of a game on those platforms, but it would be a start. We have no idea on how much it would cost to keep the game alive, how much DeNA is cutting from companies' revenues (Apple takes 30% of revenues); etc.
Top grossing games are known for being huge successes, such as Puzzle & Dragons; if a game stay in the Top 5 for a while, like a week or so, I guess it would be more difficult to assess something about its performance.
Of course it is still difficult to assess the success of a game on those platforms, but it would be a start. We have no idea on how much it would cost to keep the game alive, how much DeNA is cutting from companies' revenues (Apple takes 30% of revenues); etc.
Top grossing games are known for being huge successes, such as Puzzle & Dragons; if a game stay in the Top 5 for a while, like a week or so, I guess it would be more difficult to assess something about its performance.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
GungHo has said on multiple occasions that their less successful properties still pull a profit- Divine Gate spends most its time in the bottom 100 and gets a crapton of collabs so maybe we could see if there are any hard numbers for that game.
All right, here we go.
Sega's month revenue figures. I'm going to treat each game as their performance in May 2014 as the press release came out on June 20th and they take some time to prepare.
Chain Chronicle/PuyoPuyo averaged $150,752+ per day with a peak of 4 and 6 respectively. Spent most of the month notably lower than those peaks, primarily in the 10 to 40 range.
Border Break averaged $30,153+ a day. Peaked at 9, but spent much of its time at around 50 or lower.
The soccer game averaged about $15,000+ a day. It peaked at 55, and spent most of its time between 100 and 150.
If I had to guess, I'd say that #5 right now is probably pulling in at least $200-$300K a day if not more given how short of a time Chain Chronicle and PuyoPuyo were at that position and that they were $150K+ averages for the month still.
Sega's month revenue figures. I'm going to treat each game as their performance in May 2014 as the press release came out on June 20th and they take some time to prepare.
Chain Chronicle/PuyoPuyo averaged $150,752+ per day with a peak of 4 and 6 respectively. Spent most of the month notably lower than those peaks, primarily in the 10 to 40 range.
Border Break averaged $30,153+ a day. Peaked at 9, but spent much of its time at around 50 or lower.
The soccer game averaged about $15,000+ a day. It peaked at 55, and spent most of its time between 100 and 150.
If I had to guess, I'd say that #5 right now is probably pulling in at least $200-$300K a day if not more given how short of a time Chain Chronicle and PuyoPuyo were at that position and that they were $150K+ averages for the month still.
Moor-Angol
Banned
As I said, I didn't pay much attention about it, but honestly if there is the "urikire" (sold-out) sign I can clearly see, it's red
Maybe they had a restock in the afternoon, I don't know, but also when I went to Sofmap I didn' notice any sold-out warning, but maybe they just did not put it, as they did for MH4G, not written sold-out, you just was not able to find a copy of the game to bring to the cashier
This is a picture I took yesterday in Sofmap Ikebukuro around 14:30, as you can see the n3DS LL has not the sold-out sign but "already available"
But today I went to Yodobashi Shinjuku West and both models were sold-out, I was planning to buy one for a friend... there were cartels warning you about the sold-out, the new restock was planned for Thursday and you were able to preorder them, inside the shop all the boxes had the sold-out sign.
So I came back home very disappointed...
Right, but most of those sales probably weren't on NG. Famitsu;
[SS] The King of Fighters '95 <FTG> (SNK) {1996.03.28} (¥7.800) - 135,214 / 257.294
[NG] The King of Fighters '95 <FTG> (SNK) {1995.09.01 [CT] / 1995.09.29 [CD]} (¥29.800 [CT] / ¥8.800 [CD]) - 142.825 / 175.025*
[PS] The King of Fighters '95 <FTG> (SNK) {1996.06.28} (¥5.800) - 63,892 / 145.389
[GB] The King of Fighters '95 <FTG> (SNK) {1996.04.26} (¥4.500) - 23,967 / 23.967
*Popped in and out of charts before Famitsu gave LTDs, during the 9 weeks it failed to chart in 1995 the #30 placed titles sold a combined total of 46,131 (ie KoF 95 sold <46,131 in those 9 weeks outside of the chart). Also, they give the date for CD version which launched 4 weeks after cartridge version. Unfortunately the charts for cartridge version release are unavailable, so it's unclear if those are combined or not.
Those are just Japanese sales, overseas sales would likely weigh even more against NG.
test_account
XP-39C²
Thanks for the info.
No one did a comparison outside of the sales numbers by the way, i dont see anything ridiculous about that. Game quality and the price of the games are very different, at least the price, indeed.
This is a picture I took yesterday in Sofmap Ikebukuro around 14:30, as you can see the n3DS LL has not the sold-out sign but "already available"
The sign on the LL says "Kanbai shimashita", which means "sold out", not "already available".
Ah! I know the guy who did this documentary, it's a friend. He's the co-founder of nolife, a french tv and goes to tgs every year. He's done a lot of these kind of documentaries as well as other stuff related to japanese gaming, music and anime world. We did an interview with Morimoto Koji - a japanese animator - a few years back. He's contributed a lot to the gaming culture (I don't have a better wording, sorry).
http://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Pilot
As I said, I didn't pay much attention about it, but honestly if there is the "urikire" (sold-out) sign I can clearly see, it's red
Maybe they had a restock in the afternoon, I don't know, but also when I went to Sofmap I didn' notice any sold-out warning, but maybe they just did not put it, as they did for MH4G, not written sold-out, you just was not able to find a copy of the game to bring to the cashier
This is a picture I took yesterday in Sofmap Ikebukuro around 14:30, as you can see the n3DS LL has not the sold-out sign but "already available"
Wait, 完売 means sold out (completely sold). XD
theprodigy
Member
ayyyyy there's the 2 million shipment report
lol
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vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I needed to check if Capcom shipped more copies today , but it's still sold out in Bic Camera and Yamada Denki in Ikebukuro.
I'm gonna check Shinjuku this afternoon, but it seems, today, shops didn't receive any new shipment.
All New 3DS models are sold out in Yamada Denki. (品切れ中
In Bic Camera just the black color of New 3DS is available. It's a matter of time now. (品切れ中
Today pre-orders of Youkai Watch 2 Shin Uchi started!!
I'm gonna check Shinjuku this afternoon, but it seems, today, shops didn't receive any new shipment.
All New 3DS models are sold out in Yamada Denki. (品切れ中
In Bic Camera just the black color of New 3DS is available. It's a matter of time now. (品切れ中
Today pre-orders of Youkai Watch 2 Shin Uchi started!!
Moor-Angol
Banned
ops...
I just paid attention to the second kanji
so basically nintendo did not make a large shipment considering the "long weekend"
Anyway, Yodobashi has this schedule for restocks :
MH4G Oct.17 (Fri)
n3DS Oct.18 (Sat)
theprodigy
Member
so new 3DS=233k
wonder if regular 3DS sales finally fell off? probably
also damn MH4G with a really strong opening
wonder if regular 3DS sales finally fell off? probably
also damn MH4G with a really strong opening
Pennywise83
Banned
New 3DS LL sold way more than New 3DS; it might also be due to the MH4G bundle, and the fact that New 3DS is more oriented towards kids (with the faceplates and stuffs) and so while not having a spectacular launch, it will held better in the next weeks and during holidays.
Reposting from the other thread
Anyone else here a bit shocked by MH4G sales? I mean, it's the highest debut ever for a G version of the main game, and it still pretty much follows the past trend of expanded versions having debuts about (if not higher, as happened int the past) the levels of the main release. I sincerly thought this wouldn't have happened due to the massive debut for MH4 (on par, more or less, with MHP3rd).
Anyone else here a bit shocked by MH4G sales? I mean, it's the highest debut ever for a G version of the main game, and it still pretty much follows the past trend of expanded versions having debuts about (if not higher, as happened int the past) the levels of the main release. I sincerly thought this wouldn't have happened due to the massive debut for MH4 (on par, more or less, with MHP3rd).
Pennywise83
Banned
Well, given preorders (Comgnet and actual numbers released by MC) I would say that the result is about what expected.
shinra-bansho
Member
Seems like a good number, in that it's a reasonably large number of systems sold.
I'm guessing the old 3DS essentially fell off a cliff this week, so Y/Y it might be up about 30-40K or so?
I don't know what this implies if anything towards the revision reviving sales significantly outside of this week.
I'm guessing the old 3DS essentially fell off a cliff this week, so Y/Y it might be up about 30-40K or so?
I don't know what this implies if anything towards the revision reviving sales significantly outside of this week.
Media Create already pointed that a similar opening was expected:
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=133687034
Media Create said:
http://www.m-create.com/english/latest_research/e_ranking.html
nobody knows, also because we saw many sold out episodes for the new HWs (somewhere even for the basic N3DS).
I think that the main reason why N decided to skip the western launch (except Australia) for 2014 holiday season is due to manufacturing of two brand new models...
Btw, good numbers for both N3ds and MH. let's see if and how they will hold.
It shows how strong the market still is. Which just makes it more surprising that other companies haven't tried to capitalize on the bigger fanbase. I can't believe Square-Enix will be the first.
Kresnik258
Member
Yeah, actually, it's even higher than I expected and I did have fairly sizable expectations.
Hero of Legend
Member
Pennywise83
Banned
Sammy Samusu
Member
Youkai Watch 2.5 is #1 on Amazon and Yodobashi.
And let's not forget, the Smash New 3DS bundle is coming out on November 8.
And let's not forget, the Smash New 3DS bundle is coming out on November 8.
lol that only took an hour.
Level-5 chasing all that Japanese gaming mind share. Lol.
metalslimer
Member
4G did really well. It will be nice to some life in the dedicated market for at least a few weeks
KillerMan91
Member
it's depressing though how alone 3DS is.
Agreed but that's what the market prefers, consoles are irrelevant in Japan and that will never change.
I suspect the numbers for everything that ain't a 3DS will look pretty grim for the next few weeks. Grimmer than normal, that is.
Well, the market prefers smartphones really. Hopefully a download / revenue tracker will spring up for iOS and Android games at some point.
From February next year PS4 will be good... everything will be ok (´・ω・｀
Of course. But I was talking about dedicated hardware. The 3DS is the only one who has a decent future over there.
This is a joke right?From February next year PS4 will be good... everything will be ok (´・ω・｀
Nothing will and can save that thing in Japan.
That's the situation in Tokyo:
Tsutaya (Shibuya): All New models sold out 品切れ中
Bic Camera (Shinjuku): All New models sold out 完売
Yodabashi Camera (Shinjuku): Next shipment for the 18th. Pre-orders opened
Bic Camera (Ikebukuro): All New models sold out 品切れ中
Yamada Denki (Ikebukuro): All New models sold out 品切れ中
For MH4G sold out everywhere except Tsutaya.
Tsutaya (Shibuya): All New models sold out 品切れ中
Bic Camera (Shinjuku): All New models sold out 完売
Yodabashi Camera (Shinjuku): Next shipment for the 18th. Pre-orders opened
Bic Camera (Ikebukuro): All New models sold out 品切れ中
Yamada Denki (Ikebukuro): All New models sold out 品切れ中
For MH4G sold out everywhere except Tsutaya.
(´・ω・｀This is a joke right?
Nothing will and can save that thing in Japan.
(´・ω・｀ (´・ω・｀https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yAy3uoKg6E
Just you wait (´・ω・｀