Orgen said:Smash Bros Melee - GameCube (I think).
Mpl90 said:You said Melee?
The week before its release
Gamecube LTD - 299.412
When it went on sale
[GCN] Super Smash Bros. Melee (Nintendo) - 357.101 / 357.101 21/11/01
Gamecube - 129.377 LTD: 428.789
Ratio: 83,28%
I think it'll be broken 2 times: MH release week, and the week leading to holiday. Thought, it should mean at least 1.2m 3DS being sold in December alone!idwl said:Will there be enough 3DS's for the next few months in Japan. I hope the DS record week is broken
So, SM3DL is not sold out?king zell said:Mario 3D Land (this week biggest release)
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/48138/
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/48133/
Battlefield 3 hits Japan
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/48116/
Slime MoriMori Dragon Quest 3: Taikaizoku to Shippo Dan and the White 3DS
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/48112/
more releases for the week
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/48106/
They predict 400-500K in Japan.walking fiend said:
It was never sold-out. There are already additional shipments and there aren't fears of shortage, if there were that kind of fears.walking fiend said:So, SM3DL is not sold out?
Would it be sold out if there wasn't additional shipments, though?Chris1964 said:It was never sold-out. There are already additional shipments and there aren't fears of shortage, if there were that kind of fears.
Will be pretty good if it does that much!They predict 400-500K in Japan.
Chris1964 said:It was never sold-out. There are already additional shipments and there aren't fears of shortage, if there were that kind of fears.
Probably, but if the first shipment was small it doesn't mean much. Nintendo is supposed to have available a big shipment for weekend.walking fiend said:Would it be sold out if there wasn't additional shipments, though
Who are "they"?BowieZ said:They predict 400-500K in Japan.
BowieZ said:
I'd assume its just a tv with footage of Mario on itGianni Merryman said:What's that giant-sized 3DS?
By the look of it it is displaying some actual 3DS footage, perhaps not requiring either 3D glasses.
Whoever runs or wrote for that Arabic site I quoted.Chris1964 said:Who are "they"?
Covert Ninty release of 3DS XL Revision with bigger battery.frankie_baby said:I'd assume its just a tv with footage of Mario on it
Chris1964 said:Probably, but if the first shipment was small it doesn't mean much. Nintendo is supposed to have available a big shipment for weekend.
Who are "they"?
That would be King Zell, and I the little Arabic I understand is enough to tell that's what written there.BowieZ said:Whoever runs or wrote for that Arabic site I quoted.
Covert Ninty release of 3DS XL Revision with bigger battery.
walking fiend said:That would be King Zell, and I the little Arabic I understand is enough to tell that's what written there.
400k-500k is high for the first week, but since Chris says there wont be shortages, is achievable I suppose.
frankie_baby said:I'd assume its just a tv with footage of Mario on it
Me, 2; it would actually conform pretty well to holiday effects in the other years as well; but I suspect it may even do more due to all the games coming out in these two monthssaichi said:If 3DS only moves 1 million units in Nov + Dec in Japan, it would be a colossal failure considering it sold 270K in Oct with no big games.
I think the 2-2.5 million prediction is actually the more realistic one.
walking fiend said:due to all the games coming out in these two months
The bundle costs 20,800 yen. Buying a separate 3DS (15,000 yen) and a copy of MH3G (5,800 yen) costs 20,800 yen.Gianni Merryman said:I wouldn't underestimate how good MH3G bundles could perform, I can easily see them selling like hot cakes.
Two differents(technically more than two) bundles are going to be released IIRC, one with a limited white 3DS with MH marks drawn on it, the other one including the second analog add-on.
Should the bundles be convenient, that's to say cheaper than buying separetely 3DS + MH3G, it could make a pretty good selling point for whoever hasn't purchased a 3DS yet.
Speaking of which, do anyone know what are MH3G exstimated shipments like?
I am also curious about what Mario Land's initial shipment.
Layton V Wright is 2012, as are Beyond the Labyrinth and whatever secret Pokemon game is coming.Gianni Merryman said:Again, to ricapitulate, what are the big guns coming out shortly, aside from MH3G and MK7?
Inazuma eleven, Gundam, that Dragon quest spinoff, Layton vs Ace Attorney, that Pokemon spinoff, that Labyrinth thingy and what more?
Love Plus, too.Gianni Merryman said:Again, to ricapitulate, what are the big guns coming out shortly, aside from MH3G and MK7?
Inazuma eleven, Gundam, that Dragon quest spinoff, Layton vs Ace Attorney, that Pokemon spinoff, that Labyrinth thingy and what more?
Exterminieren said:Let's face it, you don't really need more. That's the best Holiday lineup for a single system in Japan for as long as I can remember.
3DS has sold more than a quarter of a million this past month with basically zero significant games. I hardly think it's unreasonable to suggest that games actually arriving, coupled with the new bundles, coupled with the holidays, may see a significant boost to 3DS sales; enough to comfortably take them above 2 mill. DS and PSP sold a mill last Christmas, in advanced points in their lifespans, and with nowhere near as good lineups as this one.Gianni Merryman said:Yes, it really is a pretty strong line-up indeed, but what are realistically the odds for 3DS to sell more than 2 mls based on these games in this early stage?
Even if both MH3G and MK7 should turn out to be million sellers by the end of the year, ir still wouldn't be enough, even though Love plus and Inazuma eleven could do the trick.
That is true, there are some similarites as you mentioned. It is also similarities with MH this time around, it shares being on a popular handheldwalking fiend said:Games you mentioned, share four very important points:
1. Platform consistency: MGS1-3 on PS2, MGS4 on PS3. Mario on a Nintendo platform
2. Few entries per generation: 2 MGS last gen, 2 this gen. Three 3D mario is last decade.
3. Demographic consistency: PS3 being the core console like PS2 was. 3DS being a Nintendo console like DS was
4. Not being mainstream games and have a very defined set of fans. (3DL IS considerably more mainstream than MGS, and it will in the end 'easily' suprass SMG 1m sale, but it will need the installed base to increase)
Also, they are not as much as MH tied to a community experience, specially that it is 'local' muliplayer based. I believe MK users also increased much more than 3D Marios or Zelda increased after DS and Wii selling bucks, and think it is because MK sharing this feature (and also not sharing 4)
I could think of other examples that fit with your description, FF XIII being a very other major example.
That's because amazon have sold out, the 18k is a price from a resellercw_sasuke said:Is there a reason why amazon is charging 18K Yen for the Ice WHite 3ds ?
It is a 3rd party seller.cw_sasuke said:Is there a reason why amazon is charging 18K Yen for the Ice WHite 3ds ?
I think the main reason for using MHTri as a point of comparison is because that is essentially what Capcom has done. They've set their FY target for the game pretty much exactly at what Tri sold - so that makes Tri an easy and convenient point of reference.Spiegel said:MH3G is not going to sell 4.6M, obviously, but comparing it to games released before the franchise exploded or MHTri makes no sense.
cvxfreak said:Famitsu had a feature on Nintendo's potential holiday performance and they had some new sales figures for various series on hand:
Monster Hunter Tri: 1,077,273
Monster Hunter Portable 3rd: 4,549,709
Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD: 392,155
Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G: 4,175,712
(others available, but don't look updated from previous numbers)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D: 443,467
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks: 740,109
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass: 902,386
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: 554,109
Mario Kart DS: 3,835,587
Mario Kart Wii: 3,271,343
New Super Mario Bros.: >6.2 million
3DS Hardware Predictions
There are also 3 people making predictions for 3DS hardware sales in November-December. One guy from SMBC Nikko Securities thinks that 3DS can potentially sell 2.0-2.5 million in 2 months. Expects Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7 and MH3G to perform strongly. Zelda SS and Just Dance Wii will be the Wii's big titles to pay attention to.
Someone from Bic Camera in Yurakucho (Tokyo) has more realistic predictions of around 1 million and expects MH3G to do very well because of the big sales of the PSP games and the fact that Tri G preorders have exceeded MH3 Wii pre-orders by quite a margin. Inazuma Eleven Go is also expected to do well.
Finally, a professor from Ritsumeikan University thinks 3DS hardware will sell around 1 million. The first 4 months of the system saw sales of 1.3 million. For systems like PSP, first year November sales usually rise by 1.3-1.6 times, while December ranges from 3.5 to 5.76 times the normal amount. That leaves 200K in November and 800K in December for 3DS (a rough estimate). He also expects the 2 Mario games, MH3G and Inazuma Eleven Go to surpass 500K each.
This analysis is...cvxfreak said:Finally, a professor from Ritsumeikan University thinks 3DS hardware will sell around 1 million. The first 4 months of the system saw sales of 1.3 million. For systems like PSP, first year November sales usually rise by 1.3-1.6 times, while December ranges from 3.5 to 5.76 times the normal amount. That leaves 200K in November and 800K in December for 3DS (a rough estimate). He also expects the 2 Mario games, MH3G and Inazuma Eleven Go to surpass 500K each.
Really? Where did you heap that?cw_sasuke said:Oops, oh thats right - thanks both of you.
I read earlier that the Ice White model wasnt sellin as good as expected, guess thats wrong for amazon.
Chris1964 said:This analysis is...
That guy is a professor?
Might as well get yours now before the Monster Hunter supply constraints I suppose.jett said:The 3DS hardware numbers are baffling. There are no 3DS titles in the software charts.
jett said:The 3DS hardware numbers are baffling. There are no 3DS titles in the software charts.
First post isnt updated with Top 50 yetMpl90 said:I count five of them.
Dalthien said:I think the main reason for using MHTri as a point of comparison is because that is essentially what Capcom has done. They've set their FY target for the game pretty much exactly at what Tri sold - so that makes Tri an easy and convenient point of reference.
Of course, Capcom has a pretty horrible history of sales projections - so that doesn't really mean a whole lot. But you can't blame people for using the comparison when the game's publisher has basically used the exact same comparison.
My guess is the October totals weren't in yet when he made the prediction. Pretty insane to think 3DS is going to sell in November than it did the month previous.Mpl90 said:He'll fell SOOOOO stupid.
Especially when 3DS will do 200k in two weeks of November, if everything goes well XD
This. It'd be different if they were expecting MH4 to only sell 1.2 million.lunchwithyuzo said:Besides, Tri is likely contractually bound to Nintendo. 3DS seems like a better bet than Wii anyway, and what MH3G is really doing is base building for MH4. We're at a generational transition, sacrificing short term sales for long term goals is going to be a common occurrence.