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Media Create Sales: Week 48, 2013 (Nov 25 - Dec 01)
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ohbabyitsken
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I included digital sales. Famitsu said there were around 250k I think. Total: 3.2 million.
I can't help but thinking that part of the issue is that it's effectively a third home console platform (Well, second in Japan, but the PS4 isn't far off) running concurrently. I'm not going to flag it as marketplace confusion, but is there a bit of marketplace saturation with "Playstation products you can plug into a telly"?
FreedomFighter
Member
I thought it was guaranteed too myself, but I might've been wrong. We'll see what happens over Xmas. 3DS would need one more game to push it over the top now to counter AC:NL. Maybe P&D could be it, maybe not.
I think a lot of people (possibly myself included) thought that would be the case but now it is looking less and less likely. Those two games have done phenomenally well and have driven hardware sales. But I guess it's not going to be enough.
It may say something about the portable market that at a time when the 3ds should be hitting its stride, its not even going to be up YoY.
Metallix87
Member
That's just silly, come on.
chrominance
Member
Based on what the Verge had to say about the Vita TV's UI, it also sounds like the Vita TV is just an awkward device to use. Game compatibility sounds worse than I'd originally thought too.
COD barely had any decline and BF4 had a small one.
I'm afraid the next-gen excuse made sense in the West, but not really in Japan.
Not 800k (because of downloads, as others have said), but the 4 million announcement obviously includes a big shipment for the holidays.
Aquamarine
Member
Correct. It's also why Wii Party U sales are much larger for Famitsu than they are for Media Create.
Personally I disagree. I think the death slump is over. Dont get me wrong, not saying its going to sell great, etc but I think its a hit a tipping point where it will at least generate mediocre sales with bump's here and there for various release. Potential breakouts at some points are also possible. I think this is going to apply to the US as well.
Metallix87
Member
Indeed. I'm not really sure why Sony wasted the resources on such an odd device.
michaelius
Banned
yeah but in Japan any sign of life is a good sign, imo
Metallix87
Member
I agree. Europe is a lost cause, though, barring some surprise mega hit game, ala Wii Sports.
http://gematsu.com/2013/12/nobunagas-ambition-online-coming-to-playstation-4
...A PS4 THIRD PARTY ANNOUNCEMENT!!! FINALLY!!!
...A PS4 THIRD PARTY ANNOUNCEMENT!!! FINALLY!!!
Inazuma Go (dont know what version): 12/5
Braverly Default For the Sequel: 12/5
Puzzle & Dragons: 12/12
Zelda : 12/25
Aquamarine
Member
Magicpaint
Member
And what does it say? DS wasn't up YOY in 2007 compared to 2006 and it didn't matter because sales were still phenomenal. This is the same case here, but to a lesser extent. I mean when you look at what was also on offer last year then it makes sense. The longer a system that sells as well as DS/3DS are in the market the less likely titles are going to push units to the same extent as the install base grows.
Visualante2
Member
Grand Theft Auto V had a good run. Good job Japan.
The only people in Japan I can see buying Vita TV..are people who already own Vita's and want to play the games on tv as well. I don't honestly think it's expanding the Vita userbase at all (hence why I don't think its sales should really be combined with the Vita).
IMO 3DS is beginning to saturate Japanese market.
I mean, at this rate it will be like every people with at least a very little interest with gaming will own 3DS.
It will never hit DS because it was also owned by ppl who doesn't give a shit about gaming.
(To reach DS numbers you must reach to those audience).
I mean, at this rate it will be like every people with at least a very little interest with gaming will own 3DS.
It will never hit DS because it was also owned by ppl who doesn't give a shit about gaming.
(To reach DS numbers you must reach to those audience).
Magicpaint
Member
It has been hanging around the charts for a long long time so it's to be expected.
test_account
XP-39C²
Thanks for the answers
Nothing wrong with predictions not turning out like first thought, i just thought it was interesting to see how things turned out. Pokémon and Monster Hunter 4 are huge games afterall, so it wasnt that far fetched. Its still a few weeks left, so who knows what will happen =) But regardless, this years YTD for the 3DS wont be that far off last year's YTD, so it has held up quite strong.ohbabyitsken
Banned
I already included downloads based on those Famitsu numbers in the previous thread.
Maybe Sony executives drank too much. Instead of putting those resources on development games for Vita , they turn handheld to console. It'll be just collector item like PSPGo I hope,
Yeah, looks that way.
Metallix87
Member
Yeah, the money should have definitely gone into first party Vita game development, an area that Sony is really lacking in in terms of quantity.
At 4Gamer's Vita TV teardown it is revealed that what's inside Vita TV is OG Vita, not Vita 2000. So it's not really "wasted" resource or anything. It's more like a quickly assembled device with parts left at the warehouse.
Media Create includes bundles sales with physical copies on software list too. They also includes sales of 3DS bundles with pre installed game.
For Famitsu MH4 sit currently at 3.15M that include retail copies and download cards.
It still miss the units downloaded directly through eshop.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
That thing was always meant for the west and never had a chance in Japan. I said it once and I'll say it again, Sony was just throwing Japan a bone bone for being a overall non factor when it comes to ps4.
Obviously, it's not a big announcement, and it's probably quite niche...but...but it's SOMETHING after three months of complete lack of announcements. Finally :lol
Aquamarine
Member
First week:
[PSP] Project Diva - 101,486
[PSP] Project Diva 2nd - 242,717
[PSP] Project Diva Extend - 189,196
[PSV] Project Diva f - 158,009
[PS3] Project Diva F - 113,722
[3DS] Project Mirai - 88,737
[3DS] Project Mirai 2 - 84,676
Sylverstone14
Member
So Project Mirai 2 debuts on top, Wii U's hanging on steadily, and Vita crosses a million units sold for this year.
Good stuff all around.
Good stuff all around.
Metallix87
Member
It still cost time, money, and energy to develop and manufacture.
Aw yeah, I forgot that Japan hasn't got the newest Zelda game yet. Too bad its not releasing earlier in December but it should provide a good boost none the less.
The 3ds is already selling below the ds if you compare them directly. Then factor in the 3ds likely being down YoY, then the fact that the 3ds has already seen a release in just about every major Nintendo IP, then that nearly all their former blue ocean hits have performed far worse on the 3ds than they did on the 3ds; it all suggests that while the 3ds is currently the king in Japan the market has shrunk and the 3ds is suffering the effects of that.
ohbabyitsken
Banned
You're right. I used MC with the download numbers. Still leaves 600k which I still find a lot.
4 million - 3145292 (retail) - 256203 (download) = 600k.
As I said, not 800k. =P
(And it's slightly less than 600k, because the download numbers are missing that last 5 weeks.)
Edit: ^there you go.
jackissocool
Member
I have to say it seems a little off to call Vita TV a failure. In terms of developing the hardware, it probably cost just about nothing. The hardware was already done. It's not supposed to replace or exceed the main Vita. It's just a sales supplement. It's a cheap investment for Sony that only needs to help boost the Vita user base by a quarter or a third which is basically what it's doing. I don't think Sony expected it to light the charts on fire. Now, it is disappointing, but is it a failure? I would say no.
Soul Sacrifice Delta, Soul Sacrifice 2, Freedom Wars... I don't think Sony's skimping on bringing games to the system. It's actually really surprising considering how the system was doing when they were announced. They'd be better off targeting some of their weak points to expand the audience of their system, but that's not the same as doing to little.
Quantity and diversity. Two SCEJ games consecutively will be monster hunter genre games. Granted, Soul Sacrifice and Freedom Wars have different style, but the core gameplay is still similar. They should resurrect old IPs like Folklore or Patapon. It's quite irony that worldwide Sony studios slated out more content diversity with Killzone Mercenaries and Tearaway while Vita selling like garbage outside of Japan