IIRC they're accumulated, though they might have separated them out recently.
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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2013 (Dec 16 - Dec 22)
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IIRC they're accumulated, though they might have separated them out recently.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
That's unfortunate. I'd really like them to be separated =(, as it's hard to tell the real declines in sales when the numbers are combined... oh well.
So the comgnet and tsutaya numbers are all we're getting until we get Famitsu numbers on the 6th and MC's on the 8th?
Aquamarine
Member
You're forgetting about Dengeki...we're not sure if they're releasing tomorrow morning as usual or if they'll delay it as well.
Aquamarine
Member
To be fair, Dengeki has been using a completely different format for their sales rankings this FY, so they may have different plans this time around.
I don't see any notice stating that next week's numbers will be delayed, so we can't completely rule out the possibility until it doesn't show up.
metalslimer
Member
Weren't last year's numbers separated. I remember having two threads very close to one another.
Edit: And lol at someone whining about a how stupid talking about sales is from a Gaf account.
Edit: And lol at someone whining about a how stupid talking about sales is from a Gaf account.
Aquamarine
Member
Believe it or not, NeoGAF is a forum filled with industry enthusiasts, corporate investors, employees of video game studios, and even a few important executives. So, people have a vested interest in the sales performances of games. I know I certainly do, and I don't doubt that other people who respond in these topics do as well. Japan is recognized as a major territory, so domestic physical retail sales performance (for Japanese companies) continues to be an important factor in the health of their business.
We have a topic every week because sales get released every week. When sales are reported monthly (like USA NPD) we make threads less frequently. These threads are large because many people truly care about how games perform. It's as simple as that.
You don't even need a financial / personal reason to care about video game sales...fans of certain video game studios want their favorite companies to succeed so they can see sequels and more games from the studio.
It's the meta-gam... Oh... Lurk in peace.
Wii U is nearly out of the Amazon top 100 now, currently the black model is #90 and the white one is #92. That is a huge drop from just a week ago, when they were in the #20-#30s range. Meanwhile, PS3 has jumped up the rankings to an incredible #18 (black model) as well as #61 for the white model. While Wii U will probably still edge out PS3 for the last week of 2013, for the first week of 2014, it seems PS3 is storming ahead of the U. I guess people are spending their otoshidama money mainly on PS3s, Vitas, and 3DSs.
I realise Amazon rankings do not tell the whole story, but I can't imagine the U is selling like gangbusters at retail shops but tanking on Amazon, so I think this speaks to a wider trend. It does not bode well for U sales in the near future.
I realise Amazon rankings do not tell the whole story, but I can't imagine the U is selling like gangbusters at retail shops but tanking on Amazon, so I think this speaks to a wider trend. It does not bode well for U sales in the near future.
This MK8 sales talk reminds me of GTA4 vs. MKWii in the NPD threads.
Also, Knack is irrelevant otherwise, but I just realized it may technically outsell SM3DW in Japan if: 1) trackers decide to count the bundles as one copy sold; 2) the PS4 first limited pack shipment isn't really that limited.
Isn't New Year's buying propelled mostly by otoshidama -- actual money given to kids, who, then, use it to buy stuff? I imagine those bills aren't used to buy from Amazon, thus making it reflect less this increase in sales (Not to mention kids were given the money yesterday, I don't know how fast they go out to spend it.)
Although, it's the 21st century, maybe they are being handed pre-paid debit/gift cards in an envelop. =P
Anyway, Wii U sales will decrease in January, the question is only how much.
Also, Knack is irrelevant otherwise, but I just realized it may technically outsell SM3DW in Japan if: 1) trackers decide to count the bundles as one copy sold; 2) the PS4 first limited pack shipment isn't really that limited.
Isn't New Year's buying propelled mostly by otoshidama -- actual money given to kids, who, then, use it to buy stuff? I imagine those bills aren't used to buy from Amazon, thus making it reflect less this increase in sales (Not to mention kids were given the money yesterday, I don't know how fast they go out to spend it.)
Although, it's the 21st century, maybe they are being handed pre-paid debit/gift cards in an envelop. =P
Anyway, Wii U sales will decrease in January, the question is only how much.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
So these are the Media Create sales of NSMBU, Nintendo Land, and Super Mario 3D World since their launches. Since these all launched at similar times in the holiday season, I thought it'd be interesting to compare what their sales have been so far up until 2/13 of each year (around the time Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze launches this year).
NSMBU:
Week 49, 2012 (12/3 - 12/9) - 163,528
Week 50, 2012 (12/10-12/16) - 71,011 / 234,539
Week 51, 2012 (12/17-12/23) - 77,749 / 312,288
Week 52, 2012 (12/24-12/30) - 57,103 / 369,392
Week 1, 2013 (12/31 - 1/6) - 50,319 / 419,710
Week 2, 2013 (1/7 - 1/13) - 12,400 / 432,110
Week 3, 2013 (1/14 - 1/20) - 9,598 / 441,708
Week 4, 2013 (1/21 - 1/27) - 6,883 / 448,591
Week 5, 2013 (1/28 - 2/3) - 6,338 / 454,929
Week 6, 2013 (2/4 - 2/10) - 5,857 / 460,786
Nintendo Land:
Week 49, 2012 (12/3 - 12/9) - 71,121
Week 50, 2012 (12/10-12/16) - 41,497 / 113,618
Week 51, 2012 (12/17-12/23) - 51,373 / 164,991
Week 52, 2012 (12/24-12/30) - 44,056 / 209,047
Week 1, 2013 (12/31 - 1/6) - 41,426 / 250,473
Week 2, 2013 (1/7 - 1/13) - 11,703 / 262,176
Week 3, 2013 (1/14 - 1/20) - 8,740 / 270,917
Week 4, 2013 (1/21 - 1/27) - 5,914 / 276,831
Week 5, 2013 (1/28 - 2/3) - 5,161 / 281,992
Week 6, 2013 (2/4 - 2/10) - 4,486 / 286,478
Super Mario 3D World:
Week 47, 2013 (11/18-11/24) - 99,588
Week 48, 2013 (11/25-12/01) - 39,812 / 139,400
Week 49, 2013 (12/02-12/08) - 43,844 / 183,245
Week 50, 2013 (12/09-12/15) - 57,862 / 241,107
Week 51, 2013 (12/16-12/22) - 86,408 / 327,514
Any thoughts? Due to what folks have said about the 23rd and 24th falling in Week 52, I think Mario 3D World can maintain a decent momentum going into week 52. Let's say that results in sales of 80,000 in week 52, and 50,000 in week 1. That puts 3D World over 450k in Japan (457k). In this (possibly optimistic) case, Mario 3D World will actually be outpacing NSMBU after the holidays (altho 3d world definitely will have 2 weeks more of sales under its belt).
Also, I'd think that thanks to week 52, Taiko will likely pass 100k in 2 weeks (73 + ~25k + week 1 leftovers > 100k).
Thus I'd think Mario 3D World will at least still be charting by the time DKC:TF releases.
Any thoughts?
NSMBU:
Week 49, 2012 (12/3 - 12/9) - 163,528
Week 50, 2012 (12/10-12/16) - 71,011 / 234,539
Week 51, 2012 (12/17-12/23) - 77,749 / 312,288
Week 52, 2012 (12/24-12/30) - 57,103 / 369,392
Week 1, 2013 (12/31 - 1/6) - 50,319 / 419,710
Week 2, 2013 (1/7 - 1/13) - 12,400 / 432,110
Week 3, 2013 (1/14 - 1/20) - 9,598 / 441,708
Week 4, 2013 (1/21 - 1/27) - 6,883 / 448,591
Week 5, 2013 (1/28 - 2/3) - 6,338 / 454,929
Week 6, 2013 (2/4 - 2/10) - 5,857 / 460,786
Nintendo Land:
Week 49, 2012 (12/3 - 12/9) - 71,121
Week 50, 2012 (12/10-12/16) - 41,497 / 113,618
Week 51, 2012 (12/17-12/23) - 51,373 / 164,991
Week 52, 2012 (12/24-12/30) - 44,056 / 209,047
Week 1, 2013 (12/31 - 1/6) - 41,426 / 250,473
Week 2, 2013 (1/7 - 1/13) - 11,703 / 262,176
Week 3, 2013 (1/14 - 1/20) - 8,740 / 270,917
Week 4, 2013 (1/21 - 1/27) - 5,914 / 276,831
Week 5, 2013 (1/28 - 2/3) - 5,161 / 281,992
Week 6, 2013 (2/4 - 2/10) - 4,486 / 286,478
Super Mario 3D World:
Week 47, 2013 (11/18-11/24) - 99,588
Week 48, 2013 (11/25-12/01) - 39,812 / 139,400
Week 49, 2013 (12/02-12/08) - 43,844 / 183,245
Week 50, 2013 (12/09-12/15) - 57,862 / 241,107
Week 51, 2013 (12/16-12/22) - 86,408 / 327,514
Any thoughts? Due to what folks have said about the 23rd and 24th falling in Week 52, I think Mario 3D World can maintain a decent momentum going into week 52. Let's say that results in sales of 80,000 in week 52, and 50,000 in week 1. That puts 3D World over 450k in Japan (457k). In this (possibly optimistic) case, Mario 3D World will actually be outpacing NSMBU after the holidays (altho 3d world definitely will have 2 weeks more of sales under its belt).
Also, I'd think that thanks to week 52, Taiko will likely pass 100k in 2 weeks (73 + ~25k + week 1 leftovers > 100k).
Thus I'd think Mario 3D World will at least still be charting by the time DKC:TF releases.
Any thoughts?
BishopLamont
Banned
Wii U really needs SM3DW legs post-holiday, either way it should have a better first half than last year at the very least.
shinra-bansho
Member
Belated Merry Christmas and Happy New Years, japan sales-age. Hope everyone had a good one.
Wii U has outperformed my (low) expectations for December. Not enough to really get it out of dire straits but still a good showing in the context of how horrible its year has been.
The Vita and 3DS have both somewhat underperformed. 3DS despite being the far and away lead system for the country is down quite a great deal from 2012 and the FY forecast for it seems very improbable now.
PS3 is basically saturated now. Probably crawl to 10M eventually but not much more.
Wii U has outperformed my (low) expectations for December. Not enough to really get it out of dire straits but still a good showing in the context of how horrible its year has been.
The Vita and 3DS have both somewhat underperformed. 3DS despite being the far and away lead system for the country is down quite a great deal from 2012 and the FY forecast for it seems very improbable now.
PS3 is basically saturated now. Probably crawl to 10M eventually but not much more.
We don't know why he whined in the first place though, since judging from his post history, he is a Nintendo fan, and Week 51 certainly one of the best moment for Nintendo. I don't surprised if he said that when Wii U number barely above 3k, but whining about sales when Wii U on hot trail blaze? People is hard to understand :/
Aquamarine
Member
It appears that Dengeki won't get released tonight. I'll check again at 7:00 AM EST (5 hours from now) to see if there's any release...and if there's something there then I'll post it. Otherwise, I'll assume they will take the holiday off like Media Create and Famitsu.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Maybe he really just thought sales discussions are pointless, without andy fanboy-agenda driving this?
Aquamarine
Member
There is still no Dengeki released, or any signs that Dengeki will release today...so I'm assuming it's not going to happen at this point in time. I'll keep an eye out, though.
BishopLamont
Banned
But holidays = big numbers, the wait is worth it.This is why I hate the holiday seasons, I need my weekly Media Create fix. It's especially bad this year, because W52 is pretty important (I mean, ALBW + 3DS bundle, FFX, Wii U, etc...).
Oh well, I'm sure we'll get MC numbers on Monday, at the very latest
As being lurker in these MC threads. I would really like those BIG numbers now, instead next week. You know we are living in info world (atleast they say so), where is the knowledge when you need one, I dont want to wait.
Smiles and Cries
Member
the wait balances out with the numbers but still releasing the numbers the next day is not so much to ask
why wait a week?
why wait a week?
Problem with Amazon and WiiU is they dont sell the console directly those are 3rd party merchants. Pricing on Amazon for the bundles is/has been more expensive then instore. In the WiiU's case I would not use Amazon to reflect anything honestly.
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont think that they are deliberately holding back the numbers. The delay is probably because they need the time to process the data/numbers.
BishopLamont
Banned
I'm sure you'll survive.
Let them have a little fun before they get back to work.
test_account
XP-39C²
Amazon sells WiiU consoles as well. I checked every(?) WiiU system being sold on Amazon.co.jp now, and only the Black Premium model is being sold by a 3rd party. The other systems, like the newer WiiU bundles, are being sold by Amazon themself.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00FFQF7K2/
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That and people don't want to work over this period.
Sammy Samusu
Member
I don't follow animes, but I doubt this will sell more than P4G. (300k)
It's already charting on Comg though (16pt).
That comment wasn't serious, but the PSP SAO did 200k last year. The limited edition for the Vita game is in the Amazon Top 10 right now too. The regular edition is at #41 though.
I don't think SAO Vita will reach the PSP game's level of sales. It will still sell well because it's SAO though. The new anime will help. It should do much better than Madoka at least.
Yeah, that'd be pretty good.
I wonder what the attach rate is these days. Wasn't it like 4 something at the last investors meeting?
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Considering the typical sales of 3D Mario on a much larger fanbase (Galaxy and Galaxy 2 sold only a million in Japan), if 3D World can claw its way up to 750k or something, it wouldn't be that bad imo. The problem obviously is the rest of the world.
Anyways, next week should be interesting.
shakin_haitian
Banned
Just as some ancedata, a couple of my friends who have PS3s have been purchasing extra bundled ones for their bedrooms and shit, since the price has dropped.
djplaeskool
Member
Which is unfortunate. I think The Battle Pentagram is a better game than Infinity Moment. At the very least, it's a ton more fun to play.
Sammy Samusu
Member
I know that was hyperbole, but I'm guessing you and many others expect it to sell a lot.
We will see how it goes! It's releasing right before Golden Week.
3D World looks to me like a game that appeals NSMB buyers over Galaxy buyers with the same focus on multiplayer and similar art style.
test_account
XP-39C²
Indeed. They probably have a break, so there is a delay for everything.
Yep. As people buy and use Nintendo systems they tend to continue to buy Nintendo software, regardless of its age. This makes it even more important for Nintendo to build a healthy ecosystem for their systems.
Man, I'm so used to getting numbers every week that I spent some minutes looking for the new thread instead of just reading in this one that there are none
Man, I'm so used to you being a monkey.
in the grand scheme of things, aren't people just less furry monkeys
BishopLamont
Banned
Doesn't the game suck? Not surprised they weren't prepared if thats the case.
Hero of Legend
Member
Is there an indication of the lack of a new shipment?
Actually from what i`ve read and seen its not as shitty as expected before - runs smooth and has a lot of fan-service. No GotY or anything, but for such a quick money grab it looks solid.
Just saw that its been sold out on Amazon for days - now 3rd party shops are selling it for +8.000 yen or so.
Moor-Angol
Banned
it was sold out in every shop i visited un the latest days (Ikebukuro area and Tsutaya Shibuya)
@Road : Knack will be counted as PS4 bundle, at least by Famitsu
razoftblend
Member
I didn't enter that thread claiming that 3D World was the worst opening for a 3D Mario game, but that chart shows it has a higher opening for it than 3D Land, or is 3D Land not a 3D Mario game anymore?
Also, I'm somehow looking forward to see ALBW's performance. Software sales seem high, but the 3DS itself may be reaching a saturation point in Japan.
Also, I'm somehow looking forward to see ALBW's performance. Software sales seem high, but the 3DS itself may be reaching a saturation point in Japan.