small44
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Vita will have a big drop this year too the only vita games i see it boosting vita is Digimon and Saga
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Media Create Sales: Week 52, 2014 (Dec 22 - Dec 28)
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Vita will have a big drop this year too the only vita games i see it boosting vita is Digimon and Saga
Moor-Angol
Banned
Like... how?
"Hey guys we don't even make a Pokemon Colosseum game for the Wii U, but you could you make a kind of expensive project to help our system that is selling really poorly?"
You just don't get it, Nirolak. Once Nintendo had brought on the discussion table that Level 5 employees would've gotten free cookies for the next 10 years, the deal would have been done, like, istantly. Match made in Heaven. Triplete. It's over, man.
small44
Member
You look at numbers without looking at reasons,both wii u and ps4 had a bad line up after the day one line up that why it's they doing bad numbers.
Ps4 will definitly have 3rd party support unlike wii u
Pennywise83
Banned
True, but you cannot expect a rise in the 4th year of a system that sold 5m on a yearly basis until now. Also, 3DS still pulled a 3m YTD, which is the 11th best YTD ever in Japan...? So, overall 3DS is doing fine; we expected a bit more for the revision, but overall, hardware and software are selling well. Stressing that the system is down and comparing with PSV abysmal situation is just naif.
Oh, to be clear, I think the Vita comparisons are dumb.
The 3DS being down is also expected. It's more interesting in the context of "This is nearing the back end of its lifecycle and there's effectively nothing filling the void." than "OMG the Vita is doing so well in comparison by this cherry-picked metric!!!"
Dark Souls did 368,457 and Dark Souls 2 did 335,226 on PS3.
They're not bad performers, but it's not exactly the top of the top even for PS3.
This was also a system a lot of people already had for other reasons by this point.
Moor-Angol
Banned
Saekano game announced for PS Vita
White Robe Love Addiction coming to PS Vita in Japan this April
Sayonara Umihara Kawase coming to PS Vita (no more 3DS exclusive!!! All 50 stages from the 3DS version, but with changes in enemy placement, as well as newly added enemy characters.New stages.Improved graphics running at 60fps !!!!)
#2015yearofrevenge
White Robe Love Addiction coming to PS Vita in Japan this April
Sayonara Umihara Kawase coming to PS Vita (no more 3DS exclusive!!! All 50 stages from the 3DS version, but with changes in enemy placement, as well as newly added enemy characters.New stages.Improved graphics running at 60fps !!!!)
#2015yearofrevenge
I think it's probably more helpful than harmful for them in the long run.
It makes it really clear that even with their absolute best efforts, their current business strategy is going to go no where, so change is necessary.
I think Vita can still sell a bit under a million this year in Jp if Sony drops the price and releases a Vita 3000 with a remake/remaster in the vein of FFX. i think surely that Vita will be around 5.5 when it's said and done before it stops selling and Nintendos next gen handheld comes out
small44
Member
They are all niche games it won't have any effect on vita sale
Well yeah, I guess that's true. Enter NintendOS lol.
michaelius
Banned
50k down from last year for the Vita
And it's wholy Sony fault as they dropped the ball with lack of special editions during the year and no price drop in Q4.
Then I'm guessing that Bloodbourne would realistically only sell around 200k.
If you add all franchise games, Mario, yes:
Over 6 million:
Pokémon 1999 7,378,495
Mario 2007 7,061,525
Mario 2006 6,567,966
Pokémon 2010 6,186,505
Mario 2012 6,101,752
Yokai Watch 2014 6,051,851
Pokémon 2006 6,003,889
3rd party peak by franchise:
Dragon Quest 2004 5,252,052
Final Fantasy 1997 5,031,972
Monster Hunter 2010 4,751,157
By 1999 Pokémon was already being properly milked:
Pokémon Gold / Silver
Pokémon Pinball
Pokémon Red / Green / Blue / Yellow
Pokémon Snap
Pokémon Stadium
Pokémon Stadium (Japan)
Pokémon Trading Card Game
Let's see how Yokai Watch will be by 2016 (or if it will be).
Also, "two years" sales:
Yokai Watch / Yokai Watch 2 Ganso / Honke / Shinuchi (2013/2014): 6,338,304
Pokémon Red / Green / Blue (1996/1997): 5,659,853
I don't think that was the priority. Nintendo isn't stupid, they knew releasing the 3DS version just a few months earlier would hurt WiiU sales. They cared more about software sales in this case. If they wanted to push the WiiU then they should have released the two games in different years like they do with Mario Kart.
No idea, they are collaborating with some third parties and they saw Yokoi taking off and the Wii U failing these last year(s).. It's not a magical solution to all of their problems, but I'd be interested to see, if a compendium title on a console could potentially do something for a console like the Wii U.
I have no idea if and how much it worked for the N64 or the GCN though.
And they are working with Bandai on Pokken, so that would most likely be the replacement for the Pokemon console games of old?
As Opiate said, it depends on their growth ambitions. If they accept their place as a middle tier company, you can expect them to keep doing what they do, slowly improving things the way they know best: releasing games to increase value, hoping for a tipping point, while building necessary assets for their next handheld in the worst case.
Moor-Angol
Banned
you are like the older brother/sister who says on Xmas Eve that Santa is not real but just our father...
I can see that and my shot in the dark guess is PS4 will probably end up around N64 numbers (~5m) give or take. But taking a massive turnaround like this for granted still undersells just how disasterious the platform's debut has been. It's the worst debut of any major Japanese platform we have data for.
I'm also a bit hesitant to look at software trends from a half decade ago and assume it's a given those franchise will still maintain the same hardware moving capability. We fell into this exact trap with Wii U, which despite having essentially the same sort of lineup as Wii sold dramatically different. It's very possible that rather than lifting PS4 to mainstream heights, PS4 will simply drag these franchises (FF, KH, MGS, RE, WE, Musou, Yakuza, etc) down proportionately with it. Just like Wii U did for it's lineup (NSMB, Wii Party/Fit, Mario Kart, Smash, DKCR, Taiko, DQX, etc).
Yo-Kai Watch Snap would be so great for Wii U. NCL could even have HAL make it.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Moor-Angol
Banned
Bruno MB
Member
Thanks, I made a total mess with my calculations for 1999, I don't know what happend lol
I was doing it manually with the windows calculator so I must have eaten some digits.
Edit: Other years are wrong too, I'm sorry guys. I should have checked if everything was correct, I'm usually very scrupulous when I compile sales data but today I was a bit lazy.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Pikachu will be in my heart forever! No one will take its place!
Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2003 (Dec 22 - Dec 28)
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Famitsu Sales: Week 1, 2004 (Dec 29 - Jan 04)
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Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2008 (Dec 22 - Dec 28)
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Famitsu Sales: Week 1, 2009 (Dec 29 - Jan 04)
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Famitsu Sales: Week 52, 2014 (Dec 22 - Dec 28)
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| GBA # | 209.874 | 170.740 | 262.503 | 3.613.269 | 3.366.723 | 11.180.303 |
| PS2 | 184.161 | 150.692 | 152.833 | 2.993.956 | 3.732.020 | 13.998.656 |
| GCN | 168.766 | 128.502 | 60.290 | 1.050.687 | 1.034.484 | 3.011.095 |
| XBX | 2.526 | 2.107 | 5.293 | 96.857 | 327.699 | 424.556 |
| PS1 | 882 | 571 | 4.511 | 61.300 | | 18.849.358 |
| WSN # | 599 | 308 | 6.274 | 46.655 | 221.663 | 1.763.888 |
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| ALL | 566.808 | 452.920 | 491.704 | 7.862.724 | 8.686.745 | 49.227.856 |
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| GBASP | 177.343 | 147.680 | | 2.433.315 | | 2.433.315 |
| GBA | 32.531 | 23.060 | 262.503 | 1.179.954 | 3.366.723 | 8.746.988 |
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| GBA # | 220.711 | 209.874 | 316.675 | 220.711 | 316.675 | 11.401.004 |
| PS2 | 218.019 | 184.161 | 193.758 | 218.019 | 193.758 | 14.035.233 |
| GCN | 104.435 | 168.766 | 71.945 | 104.435 | 71.945 | 3.104.530 |
| XBX | 3.034 | 2.526 | 9.063 | 3.034 | 9.063 | 427.588 |
| PS1 | 1.086 | 882 | 6.479 | 1.086 | 6.479 | 18.850.444 |
| WSN # | 600 | 599 | 6.852 | 600 | 6.852 | 1.764.488 |
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| ALL | 547.885 | 566.808 | 604.772 | 547.885 | 604.772 | 49.583.287 |
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| GBASP | 185.967 | 177.343 | | 185.967 | | 2.619.282 |
| GBA | 34.744 | 32.531 | 316.675 | 34.744 | 316.675 | 8.781.722 |
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| NDS # | 275.402 | 262.928 | 194.816 | 4.029.804 | 7.143.702 | 25.135.276 |
| WII | 162.285 | 151.106 | 161.520 | 2.908.342 | 3.629.361 | 7.526.821 |
| PSP # | 120.036 | 148.409 | 157.984 | 3.543.171 | 3.022.659 | 11.078.484 |
| PS3 | 48.317 | 37.019 | 49.392 | 991.303 | 1.206.347 | 2.664.366 |
| PS2 | 13.238 | 9.696 | 29.886 | 480.664 | 816.419 | 21.547.802 |
| 360 | 13.059 | 12.598 | 9.165 | 317.859 | 257.841 | 866.167 |
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| ALL | 632.337 | 621.756 | 603.987 | 12.271.143 | 16.150.418 | 68.818.916 |
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| DSi | 217.676 | 214.729 | | 1.280.092 | | 1.280.092 |
| DSL | 57.726 | 48.199 | 194.816 | 2.749.712 | 7.130.228 | 17.405.978 |
| PSP | 120.036 | 148.409 | 157.984 | 3.543.171 | 3.022.659 | 11.078.484 |
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| NDS # | 259.155 | 275.402 | 311.549 | 259.155 | 311.549 | 25.394.431 |
| PSP # | 169.208 | 120.036 | 189.289 | 169.208 | 189.289 | 11.247.692 |
| WII | 141.445 | 162.285 | 242.802 | 141.445 | 242.802 | 7.668.266 |
| PS3 | 68.496 | 48.317 | 69.665 | 68.496 | 69.665 | 2.732.862 |
| 360 | 18.888 | 13.059 | 12.869 | 18.888 | 12.869 | 885.055 |
| PS2 | 18.770 | 13.238 | 35.134 | 18.770 | 35.134 | 21.566.572 |
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| ALL | 675.962 | 632.337 | 862.935 | 675.962 | 862.935 | 69.494.878 |
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| DSi | 200.667 | 217.676 | | 200.667 | | 1.480.759 |
| DSL | 58.488 | 57.726 | 311.549 | 58.488 | 311.549 | 17.464.466 |
| PSP | 169.208 | 120.036 | 189.289 | 169.208 | 189.289 | 11.247.692 |
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| 3DS # | 218.351 | 218.412 | 208.893 | 3.153.045 | 4.931.509 | 17.847.056 |
| WIU | 48.927 | 36.397 | 79.174 | 604.856 | 880.088 | 2.123.283 |
| PSV # | 40.523 | 29.657 | 75.207 | 1.147.936 | 1.197.980 | 3.423.075 |
| PS4 | 30.145 | 21.657 | | 925.570 | | 925.570 |
| PS3 | 10.142 | 7.847 | 27.020 | 450.034 | 824.167 | 10.018.534 |
| XB1 | 815 | 1.761 | | 45.958 | | 45.958 |
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| ALL | 348.903 | 315.731 | 403.259 | 6.411.203 | 8.367.073 | 54.075.773 |
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Have a Blessed Day
Once ff xv launches the ps4 will do a 180 in terms of sales at least that's what Sony fans believe/pray for. Hell, less than a year ago some were still saying it'd outsell the ps3.
small44
Member
What this has to do with wht i said?
Here we are in a sale thread so we talk about which games will help the systems or if a game will do good or not.
How can vita succeed to revenge with those niche games
ArchedThunder
Banned
Hopefully Yo-kai watch doesn't keep the model of releasing a third version only a 5 months after release of the paired versions, that could hurt the growth of the series in the long term. They should wait at least a year like Pokemon.
Also at this point if they release Yo-kai watch in the west what one are they going to release?
Also at this point if they release Yo-kai watch in the west what one are they going to release?
KillerMan91
Member
You could also say that WiiU has pretty same line up as Gamecube and it's heading towards same kind of numbers as gamecube with something like Mario Kart selling pretty much exactly like it sold on Gamecube. Wii was outlier as its success was because of appeal of motions controls and Nintendos masterful utilization of them in their games. WiiU is attracting same old audience as Gamecube and N64 did without Wii's successful gimmick (and with decline of traditional gaming market). PS4's appeal is also exactly same as PS3s. Tradional gaming with same old games.sörine;146207438 said:
Presumably due to rounding from their upweighting ratio?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
No fair ;.;
Davey Cakes
Member
Deserves every sale. It's one of the most fun, easygoing, and charming puzzle games I've ever played and I'm not even that far in it. For the budget price, it's well worth it.
No it doesn't really. Gamecube didn't have NSMB, Wii Party/Sports/Fit, DKCR, Kirby, DQX, MH3, Taiko, Just Dance or other big Wii sellers. Gamecube was just a very different platform.
PS3 was also something of an outlier if we look at Japanese sales though. Despite a heavy 3rd party commitment and artifically extended lifecycle it only sold about half as well as the previous 3 PlayStations. Makes you wonder what those trends will look like this time around.
Bruno MB
Member
Revised yearly Pokémon sales:
1996 - 1.663.861
1997 - 3.995.992
1998 - 4.159.875
1999 - 7.378.495
2000 - 4.346.870
2001 - 1.173.299
2002 - 3.197.762
2003 - 2.773.121
2004 - 4.523.313
2005 - 2.293.451
2006 - 6.003.798
2007 - 2.855.047
2008 - 3.489.283
2009 - 4.727.916
2010 - 6.186.505
2011 - 1.217.783
2012 - 3.806.048
2013 - 4.165.345
2014 - 3.038.599
Source: Famitsu yearly reports.
P.S. Sorry for the wrong data I posted before. By the way, I found the culprit
"é"
Well, well, well... Pokémon was really huge back in the days. That's 3 versions of the same game vs 2 games (with 3 versions for the 2nd one).
But Level-5 is just getting started. Curious to see how high YW will go, and how the gen transition will go.
Well it took Inazuma Eleven until after the third entry, but they didn't do the 6 month enhanced release until the third entry.
Most comparisons are useless in sales threads because they lack context or people just nitpick numbers that fit their discourse ignoring everything else, especially numbers that contradict their discourse.
That said, 3DS situation is good and even great in some aspects, but it is not so good in other aspects. Not everything is comparison, the market is not a contest. But at the same time that some users make out-of-context comparisons between 3DS and Vita to make 3DS situation look bad, most of the times Vita is mentioned, someone comes and makes a useless comparison with 3DS as well. People who complain about nitpicking examples to make 3DS look bad also nitpick examples to support the discourse that every third party should publish every game as a 3DS exclusive.
In the end, the lack of good things to talk about reduces everything to console war stuff, and that is annoying. If things are really well, the person that earns $100,000/year won't even bother with the remark that the guy who earns $10,000/year got a bigger raise than him in the last year.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Have they announced Yo-Kai 3 yet? If 3 and a third version come out this year then probably...