probably day 1 sales only
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Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2014 (Feb 10 - Feb 16)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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probably day 1 sales only
Looks like Sony allocated way too many units for Japan. Meanwhile in Europe you still can#t find them on shelves.
ambientmystic
Member
This thread is getting bloody depressing fast.
It seems like Sony may have made a monumental error in stuffing the channels in Japan, probably their first major error of judgement in this console generation.
Americans and Europeans still have the "thirst" and their demands are not being met.
They should've just given a "token" 200 - 250k to Japan and moved the rest of the monthly production to the US and EU.
At least then they could've boasted that they sold every PS4 they had in Japan and continued to meet the burgeoning worldwide demand while they're at it.
Unflattering articles about the lack of demand in Japan (like this one from the Guardian) won't do the PS4 any favours.
This is not just a numbers game, it's also a PR/perception game and the battles for the hearts and minds of consumers are not just being fought in the stores, but also online via message boards, social media and other avenues of discourse.
The last thing they need is the pervasive sense of negativity that has already permeated the XBone and WiiU launches spreading to their own mostly positive launch so far.
It seems like Sony may have made a monumental error in stuffing the channels in Japan, probably their first major error of judgement in this console generation.
Americans and Europeans still have the "thirst" and their demands are not being met.
They should've just given a "token" 200 - 250k to Japan and moved the rest of the monthly production to the US and EU.
At least then they could've boasted that they sold every PS4 they had in Japan and continued to meet the burgeoning worldwide demand while they're at it.
Unflattering articles about the lack of demand in Japan (like this one from the Guardian) won't do the PS4 any favours.
This is not just a numbers game, it's also a PR/perception game and the battles for the hearts and minds of consumers are not just being fought in the stores, but also online via message boards, social media and other avenues of discourse.
The last thing they need is the pervasive sense of negativity that has already permeated the XBone and WiiU launches spreading to their own mostly positive launch so far.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Dualshockers reporting strong sales but weak attach rate.
http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/24/ps4-japanese-stores-report-strong-sales-but-weak-attach-rate-for-games/
http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/24/ps4-japanese-stores-report-strong-sales-but-weak-attach-rate-for-games/
4 stores selling out = strong sales?
Dualshockers are a joke.
shinra-bansho
Member
They're just posting stuff that was already posted in the thread...
Also, why would consumers in the US care if it flops in Japan.
Also, why would consumers in the US care if it flops in Japan.
I think people are lowballing it way too much on here. 150K? Really? 1/2 as much as the Wii U sold in its opening weekend sounds reasonable? Pretty sure tracking is for a 3 day period (or was it four?) so that would be abysmal. The low attach rate makes sense, Was only like 2 games/ console in NA too, if I recall, and there's a bunch of F2P stuff for folks to check out.
They do seem to get a lot of stories from Gaf don't they hehe
pieatorium
Member
stop posting dualshockers drivel, we had these blogs posted here days ago there just trawling the internet for anything
edit ~ its not a bad thing to go find this stuff but the articles they spew out as a result over the last few days have been dumb
Yeah, that's my impression too. Dualshockers are watching GAF and posting an article about every bit of new info posted here, but just much later.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
A few select retailers do not represent the full picture however at least they have linked all their sources. Better than most sites that have been reporting PS4 sales in Japan.
The headlines are more offensive than the content. That headline is for attention - specifically for N4G.
pieatorium
Member
we didnt get wiiu or vita till around the normal time famitsu would do their update on a wednesday (but obviously on the monday after launch)
theres is a couple of hours till then
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
11-12 so yes in this hour.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Japan could have chosen Wii U too, so this is not the unique console the market could have chosen (disregarding the Xbone, because, well, Xbox's history in Japan).
Eh, I think any negativity will be seen as a reflection of the Japanese market, not the PS4. It's doing great in the west, it'll continue doing great in the west. It's selling off the back of western games, and it's largely western games that people are looking forward to.
I expect a rash of 'console gaming is dead in Japan' articles though.
Well, if some prediction of average 15K a week will be true, those articles would be justified :\
Or will the XBONE be the Japanese savior!?!? LOL
Because, replying to Yoshi, Japan could have chosen Wii U: but it didn't.
Not necessarily. A later report doesn't always mean worse results.
redblack85
Member
why still no numbers?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
PS4 is not getting any bad press. Its more like the Japanese console gaming industry is. They have fallen so far and are a shadow of what they used to be.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
The point is, just because they have not chosen Wii U up till now, this doesn't mean they need to choose PS4. They can still choose later down the road when there are games they are actually interested in. And the choice then still is not unique, they'd still have the choice of PS4 and Wii U (though they will probably realistically choose PS4 over Wii U, considering where the support is, but seemingly for now, the current support isn't great for either one from a general japanese point of view).
Too low, Famitsu is embarrassed
I can't see Japan embracing Wii U later on, considering the reaction to Dk release, for example. It's not (only) a matter of games, that's obvious up to now.
And if they'll not chose PS4 over Wii U, replyin to the previous SmokeyDave post, that would really mean that home gaming in Japan is really dead. Way more dead than last gen, when we saw the explosion of portable gaming systems
if Microsoft had planned ahead and put a lot of money into funding Japanese games there might have been a chance for them to claim the market as sony has no game.
sadly this isn't going to happen and with Japanese console gaming being at a strange place right now it probably wouldn't be worth the investment anyway.
first of all, I really think that PS4 will do well, at launch. I don't understand where all the negativity comes from. Really.
Secondly, it is not so true that there aren't Japanese games: they are, from third parties. They are crossgen. Was it an issue in the West? Not so much. I think that even the good results of Vita versions compared to the PS3 versions of recent games can anticipating decent result for PS4 version of crossgen games.
PS4 will probably not set Japan on fire as the Wii did (at its beginning) but stil...I really can't see it performing as bad as the Wii U.
test_account
XP-39C²
I think the number is so high that they need more time to count
Seriously though, i dont think a potential delay means much. If i remember correctly, this happened to a Pokemon game as well, and people thought maybe it had been selling poorly, but that wasnt the case. I'm not speaking in favor of the PS4 here, i'm just saying that a delay of numbers doesnt necessarily mean low numbers in general.
I think the number is so high that they need more time to count
Seriously though, i dont think a potential delay means much. If i remember correctly, this happened to a Pokemon game as well, and people thought maybe it had been selling poorly, but that wasnt the case. I'm not speaking in favor of the PS4 here, i'm just saying that a delay of numbers doesnt necessarily mean low numbers in general.
yeah, there is no correlation between Famitsu report and actual numbers, I agree
Even with those multiplats the PS4 has very few high selling titles. Yakuza is the biggest right now, and it isn't even a mainline entry.
Third parties haven't really shown up in force for the PS4 either. We're looking at a relatively empty year right now.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
TBF even cross gen titles that have been announced for the rest of the year are minimal at best. It's not that the PS4 is getting crappy support ala Vita. It's getting fuck all Japanese support.
1st Course
Member
9 pm in Japan now.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
From the other thread.
Infinite Xero
Member
From the other thread.
Cool, now I only need to learn Japanese.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
BrokenIcarus
Member
So it's generally sold out then? Sounds good
Infinite Xero
Member
Sammy Samusu
Member
They have never released launch reports at this time of the day. It's always during afternoon (dawn EST).
Principate
Saint Titanfall
How many times have they not bothered to report on Monday?