Smokey believes in the vita because the vita believes in him.
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Media Create Sales: Week 7, 2014 (Feb 10 - Feb 16)
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Smokey believes in the vita because the vita believes in him.
What the fuck is this?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I have no words.
goomba meet SmokyDave. I predict you two will have a beautiful future together.
GhostTrick
Banned
I don't think 3DS is saturated, but it's clearly time for them to release a new 3DS model.
Waluigilicious
Member
lol @ the smash bros. comment. They don't even have to reveal anything to do with the game before release. How many games out there reveal anything let alone to this extent? Yet some people assume what they show is all we will get.
Vita YTD doubled while 3DS YTD halved. Do the math and next year it will double the 3DS
Hope the DKC sales means the next Nintendo games won't all be retro platformers. I don't see why you should blame the WiiU for the poor sales when Returns just did 160k on the Wii and 100k on the 3DS. It's just not that popular of a series and the sequel was just more of the same. Great if you're a fan, but it would never set the world on fire.
Gaiaknight
Member
hey sales are sales.
NeonZ
Member
I caught it. I think content has never been a problem for Smash since Melee, but I fear that it might be a problem this time considering the way the game is being promoted.
Brawl's launch and marketing campaign wasn't a problem. It sold millions at launch, and still sold millions through the years afterwards.
Look at the sales of fighting games in general currently. Focusing on balance and high level tweaks doesn't sell games. Making that the focus of the marketing is basically taking a road to irrelevance.
I'm not saying that they shouldn't fix Brawl's gameplay problems, but minor gameplay tweaks shouldn't be large part of the information we've gotten about the game for months. I'm starting to fear that this really is the focus the development of this game is taking, rather than an overall experience, and that'd be a big mistake.
I'm talking about game content. The only non multiplayer battle related feature we've seen for this new smash through all this time has been... one picture of one trophy, which isn't exactly a new or exciting feature. If the game doesn't actually introduce anything new and significant, it won't be a system seller, I think the sales of many Wii U titles would have shown that already.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
[3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D (Nintendo, 06/13/13) 104,569
WiiU, killing Nintendo's software sales one franchise at a time.
WiiU, killing Nintendo's software sales one franchise at a time.
I'm with you there, but how do you improve on the XL significantly enough that everyone is willing to drop $200 all over again? With delightful little brand-name tablets selling for $150 these days, I'd really rather have one of those.
The next retail release for wiiu is not mario kart. There will be a new sku next month without mario u and wiiu party, but with wiiu sports and 2k yen cheaper. After that in april Theres famicom remix and just dance, another franchise that had big sales on Wii that will crater.
Vita YTD doubled while 3DS YTD halved. Do the math and next year it will double the 3DS
Hope the DKC sales means the next Nintendo games won't all be retro platformers. I don't see why you should blame the WiiU for the poor sales when Returns just did 160k on the Wii and 100k on the 3DS. It's just not that popular of a series and the sequel was just more of the same. Great if you're a fan, but it would never set the world on fire.
You realize the Wii version of DKC Returns sold over a million copies in Japan, right? It's an extremely popular series in Japan.
Now I'm thinking that you're not reading. Dojo did EXACTLY what you wanted; they revealed mode after mode, stage after stage, and secret after secret. It got crazy hype yes, but when the actual game released, some were dismayed to find out that Dojo revealed almost EVERYTHING.
They're simply just trying to keep the game's secrets under wraps (secrets being kept secrets? Shocking) this time around.
I'm seriously not understanding you.
If the 3DS isn't saturated why are the sales slipping so much year to year? Requiring a new model to hopefully bounce sales by getting existing owners to upgrade is also the very definition of a saturated market.
MikeE21286
Member
Those DK numbers seems extremely bad. Didn't move hardware at all either. Yikes.
michaelius
Banned
It didn't have price drop ever since the orginal big price reduction.
And when all software released for it is more of the same it's not expanding into new user groups.
What fanbase? If there really was one things wouldn't be bombing!
Bruno MB
Member
Here goes another "key first-party title" that was supposed (on Iwata's mind) to build momentum. Next title in just 3 months.
I expected a slightly better second week drop (around 65 - 70%). Anyway, 75% is not bad, specially for a jrpg with a strong debut. I guess that it will end up selling about 750.000 - 800.000 units.
Yo-kai Watch sales stats
Source: Famitsu
Code:
July, 2013
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 101.136 / NEW
August, 2013
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 54.884 / 156.020 (-46%)
September, 2013
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 37.493 / 193.513 (-32%)
October, 2013
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 17.359 / 210.872 (-54%)
November, 2013
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 11.988 / 222.860 (-31%)
December, 2013
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 63.593 / 286.453 (+430%)
January, 2014
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 60.586 / 347.039 (-5%)
February, 2014
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 84.237 / 431.276
5 biggest weeks:
Week 1 - 52.901
Week 32 - 31.831
Week 2 - 28.707
Week 30 - 28.423
Week 31 - 23.983
Digital sales:
September, 2013 - 1.175
October, 2013 - 914
December, 2013 - 2.206
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 431.276
[3DS] Yo-kai Watch (Digital sales) <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 4.295
Total - 435.571Napalm_Frank
Member
#champion
Hang in there Vita! Reinforcements are coming next month and #beastmode can start anew!
#20v1t4
Katana_Strikes
Member
Wonderful 101
zomgbbqftw
Banned
So how would that indicate that the market isn't saturated. New models and colours sell to existing owners looking to upgrade unless there is a significant change to draw in new buyers. There isn't anything Nintendo could do in the latter category so that leaves selling to the existing base.
NeonZ
Member
Before the Japanese launch, the dojo only covered starting features of the game, no secrets at all. I'm sorry, but if they don't attempt to advertise big selling points for the game, there's no reason to assume that they magically exist.
There's a chance that the marketing will take a different form closer to launch, but the complete silence on anything outside of the basic multiplayer so far doesn't really give much confidence.
I wonder how many of those 1.6 million Wii U's are even plugged in or used in Japan, i have a hard time accepting a million Wii U owners sitting around daily, seeing DKTF and saying "meh...seems like a bad game" and only 40-50 k of them buying it first week.
I wonder where can Nintendo go from here.
I can understand the masses not embracing the WiiU but what's going on with the Nintendo diehard, why won't they buy? Did they hate everything on Wii?? Why won't it follow a gamecube trajectory instead of this disaster?
my first guess is that gamers are large, nintendo fans or otherwise, don't want outdated hardware, period and that's basically the console's cancer. I guess is up for debate though.
I wonder whether nintendo can release hardware mid-generation that is a suitable companion for the PS4.
I can understand the masses not embracing the WiiU but what's going on with the Nintendo diehard, why won't they buy? Did they hate everything on Wii?? Why won't it follow a gamecube trajectory instead of this disaster?
my first guess is that gamers are large, nintendo fans or otherwise, don't want outdated hardware, period and that's basically the console's cancer. I guess is up for debate though.
I wonder whether nintendo can release hardware mid-generation that is a suitable companion for the PS4.
DragonSworne
Banned
I think genre fatigue plays a part in Donkey Kong's poor performance.
Nintendo has release too many platformers in such a short period of time.
Nintendo has release too many platformers in such a short period of time.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
3DS is nearing a 50% decline while Vita is nearing a 300% increase. Certainly did not expect this in both cases. Did not expect the 3DS to decline so much and have no idea why the Vita is holding all of a sudden.
maverick40
Junior Member
So what happens after Mario Kart?
Magicpaint
Member
I'm posting this because people keep expressing surprise at the drop in sales when the exact same thing happened with the DS. Let's compare 2007 to 2008 DS for the same week.
Media Create Week 7, 2007: NDS - 136,999
Media Create Week 7, 2008: NDS - 62,362
Like 3DS, DS had two monster years previously and 2008 marked the year where it would hit saturation point (though, DS was of course doing it at a consistently higher level than 3DS) aka settling for 'normal' sales - I think that's the same thing happening with the 3DS here. A drop was inevitable. The kind of sales the 3DS put out the last couple of years are not normal for any hardware to consistently do YoY, for example, 2012 3DS >>>>> any post-2007 year for the DS in Japan. I think a new model isn't the solution because 3DS will never reach those heights, more importantly, I think a strong software schedule is what's needed and that's what kept the DS afloat for years though the market is also a little different now and 3DS doesn't quite have the consistent level of support the DS enjoyed.
So anyone think that Nintendo may release a 3DSi this year with better specs until next year where they announce and sell the next generation handheld? I think that sales will be a lot worse next year like 15-30k if it keeps on dropping 50% each year. More troubling is that Vita is selling better than ever and will probably sell more than 3DS next year.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Please be excited for Yokai Watch 2 : Spark, Yokai Watch 2 : Bomber, Yokai Watch 2 : The Ogre
In the last three months wiiu sold something like 500 to 600k. Unless those people bought the system specifically to play mario 3d world ans the games that come with the console, theres a fair share of people that should be buying games.
Wiiu had a good holiday, but the fanbase that came with it didnt translate in more sales, at least With DK. Thats a problemas nintendo should adress fast. Lets ser if mario kart will suffer the same fate.
ehm....PSP>>>>>>Wii