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[Generic]

Wait this doesn’t run at 60 fps?

No fucking way

The era of crossgen games is over. Most games now will run at 30fps.

 

[Black_Stride]

So its actually 1080p and 720p internal resolution?

 

[violence]

It’s funny how fast we got spoiled by 60 FPS on console.

 

[FoxMcChief]

PS5 PRO, PLEASE!!!!!! WHEN ARE YOU COMINGGG!!!???

 

[R6Rider]

Dude I still can’t believe this. This is a 1:1 remake of a fucking PS2 game. These areas are tiny, have maybe 8 enemy npc at most and a handful of animals. There’s literally nothing happening, how the fuck is this not running at 60?

Because devs can't optimize for shit, especially eastern devs.

 

[[Sigma]]

AINT NO WAY

 

[Hrk69]

I don't know about you but I think consoles are winning

 

[Mr Moose]

It seems pretty obvious at this point that we're shifting into a 2nd half of the console gen with 30 fps being more common. I guess you can cry about it, or get a PC.

Monster Hunter Wilds
Dragon's Dogma 2
Avowed
Metal Gear Solid Delta
Kingdom Come 2
Hellblade 2

Probably more to come. Just how it is. Best thing they can do is just make sure there's an uncapped mode at least and it'll likely run better next gen. Some might be able to polish it up with work post-launch, like Starfield and Plague Tale 2 did.

Article doesn't say anything about this game being 30fps (except at dynamic 4k), the 30fps+ is OP clickbait.

 

[Punished Miku]

Article doesn't say anything about this game being 30fps (except at dynamic 4k), the 30fps+ is OP clickbait.

Damn he's good.

I got Draugoth 'd.

 

[Panajev2001a]

Surprised they did not describe the performance mode and quality mode as follows:

1080p <= quality <= 60 FPS

1080p => performance >= 30 FPS

Or some other fun way to basically throw in the towel at optimising the performance mode .

 

[finalflame]

While 60fps would've been nice, I can't honestly think it'll make too much of a difference here. I'd be happy if it was a locked 30 at 4K, but alas, we know that is unlikely.

 

[Mr Moose]

My demo was locked to a 30fps fidelity mode, but the final release promises a 60fps performance option.

Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater Stays Loyal To The Mission

Hands-On with Konami’s reverent remake of Big Boss’s debut

www.gamespot.com

 

[XXL]

Where is that 1080p/30fps+ coming from?

I actually watched a preview this morning saying it will have a 60fps mode.

Edit - it was just posted above.

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

The lack of 1440p option on most console games still baffles me.

Also, not being able to keep constant 60fps... come on now, the game doesn't look that good.

They are rushing games out to meet deadlines, that's the main issue. I would not be surprised if a patched gets released months after launch and a 60 fps mode gets added.

But like I always say, if you care about FPS just get a PC.

 

[OverHeat]

Pouhahaha potato mode

 

[Shifty1897]

It's FF16 all over again.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

This is my favorite game since 2004. Konami DO NOT fuck this up.

Unfortunately, they will

 

[deriks]

"higher FPS"?! Fuck, 31fps is higher. What is also higher? A bunch of bullshit

 

[Variahunter]

It seems pretty obvious at this point that we're shifting into a 2nd half of the console gen with 30 fps being more common. I guess you can cry about it, or get a PC.

Monster Hunter Wilds
Dragon's Dogma 2
Avowed
Metal Gear Solid Delta
Kingdom Come 2
Hellblade 2

Probably more to come. Just how it is. Best thing they can do is just make sure there's an uncapped mode at least and it'll likely run better next gen. Some might be able to polish it up with work post-launch, like Starfield and Plague Tale 2 did.

Avowed has nothing in common with these games. It's pretty, but far from being beautiful or a technological hurdle to maintain 60 fps. It's just that Obsidian are not good on tech.

 

[BlackTron]

Getting a bit tired of multiple modes on console. I would get a pc if I want to tweak graphics. Just work on what you think will be the best experience.

4K TVs kinda make it necessary. Some people would be pissed their game looks grainy. People with modestly sized TVs will be pissed the game runs like ass because it has the headroom for x2 resolution. And we all know consoles are for TVs.

If 1440 was the current in vogue TV tech, it would have been a great thing for gaming. PC would be the place to get 4K and consoles could keep doing the job they do best.

 

[adamsapple]

Avowed has nothing in common with these games. It's pretty, but far from being beautiful or a technological hurdle to maintain 60 fps. It's just that Obsidian are not good on tech.

Avowed is using all the expensive UE5 suite features, Lumen, Nanite and VSM. Art style subjectivity aside. If that game gets a Performance mode, it'll be at the expense of cutting back one or more of those.

 

[Punished Miku]

Avowed has nothing in common with these games. It's pretty, but far from being beautiful or a technological hurdle to maintain 60 fps. It's just that Obsidian are not good on tech.

It has Unreal 5 in common. And being 30 fps.

I'm not claiming Avowed is the best looking game ever. I do think some parts of it look great though and it could surprise people

 

[Tiago Rodrigues]

Unreal Engine 5 really is making a number on these consoles huh.

PS5 Pro releasing right when it should.

 

[nowhat]

"higher FPS"?! Fuck, 31fps is higher. What is also higher?

Me!

 

[elbourreau]

Higher FPS ?

Is this a joke ? Who's this guy ?

 

[RickMasters]

It's not tied to 30. The PS5 just simply can't do 60.

It’s like people are NOT u der standing this. I said this the other day when people were dissing avowed for being 30FPS. As this gen pushes on and devs shoot for more complex and and more dense visuals, we are gonna be right back at 30FPS being the norm on consoles. T see… this is why I’m hoping the next Xbox will be a reference box that we can upgrade the parts for. Or I’ll just build such a box my damn self.


If people want 60FPS and 4K on everything, I say buy a PC. It’s better than people deluding themselves about the upper levels of these consoles abilities….. sure they can do 60FPS but not without compromise and the games that can run at 120 FPS but then you are back to 1080p….. always a compromise with consoles… on PC you can have it your way like Burger King. As long as you are willing to pay for that extra performance…. And that’s the other problem for console gamers…. Sometimes they expect a bit much from the 500 dollar boxes… just unrealistic expectations all round.

 

[Pop]

There's absolutely no excuse for all games to be at least 60fps on PS5.

Shame on devs

 

[lughnasadh123]

I love having some choice on console. Sadly that choice is shit and shit+.

 

[Eimran]

Unfortunately, they will

I know I'm being probably naive here and I have little faith in them...but so far everthing we saw from the game looks good.

They didn't change the cutscenes, implemented MGSV controls but gave the options to use the original control. So far they understand the 'If it ain't broken, don't fix it-mentality.

So I'll give them the benefit of doubt for now.

 

[Kerotan]

This would greatly benefit from a ps5 Pro version. Should hit 60 and well above 1080p.

 

[Boss Mog]

This game looks like shit. If the devs were competent it would be 4K60 on PS5 and Series X.

 

[TrebleShot]

It’s like people are NOT u der standing this. I said this the other day when people were dissing avowed for being 30FPS. As this gen pushes on and devs shoot for more complex and and more dense visuals, we are gonna be right back at 30FPS being the norm on consoles. T see… this is why I’m hoping the next Xbox will be a reference box that we can upgrade the parts for. Or I’ll just build such a box my damn self.


If people want 60FPS and 4K on everything, I say buy a PC. It’s better than people deluding themselves about the upper levels of these consoles abilities….. sure they can do 60FPS but not without compromise and the games that can run at 120 FPS but then you are back to 1080p….. always a compromise with consoles… on PC you can have it your way like Burger King. As long as you are willing to pay for that extra performance…. And that’s the other problem for console gamers…. Sometimes they expect a bit much from the 500 dollar boxes… just unrealistic expectations all round.

Try running Black Myth, Avatar or outlaws on 4090 at 4k.


60fps 4k is for 5090s

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Gonna have to go with higher

 

[Insane Metal]

4k30 huh... yeah, right.

 

[K' Dash]

so, a nice looking slide show or barely HD...

 

[Danknugz]

still got metal gear NES in my backlog

 

[Danknugz]

It’s like people are NOT u der standing this. I said this the other day when people were dissing avowed for being 30FPS. As this gen pushes on and devs shoot for more complex and and more dense visuals, we are gonna be right back at 30FPS being the norm on consoles. T see… this is why I’m hoping the next Xbox will be a reference box that we can upgrade the parts for. Or I’ll just build such a box my damn self.


If people want 60FPS and 4K on everything, I say buy a PC. It’s better than people deluding themselves about the upper levels of these consoles abilities….. sure they can do 60FPS but not without compromise and the games that can run at 120 FPS but then you are back to 1080p….. always a compromise with consoles… on PC you can have it your way like Burger King. As long as you are willing to pay for that extra performance…. And that’s the other problem for console gamers…. Sometimes they expect a bit much from the 500 dollar boxes… just unrealistic expectations all round.

it's just the 30 fps vs 60 fps ignorance all over again. it used to be half of gamers thought 30 fps was cinematic and 60 fps looked fake. that is now shifted to consoles being super computers up there with neural networks and quantum computing.

 

[Roxkis_ii]

30 fps?

Antidotically, 30 fps is a no buy in my friend group. It's too many other games to have to endure retro framerates.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Will be interesting to see the people who said PS5 Pro wasn't needed either turn 180 on this or play their 30 fps games for the rest of the generation...

 

[deriks]

Me!

 

[Closer]

Get ready for Native 30 FPS and Framegen 30+ FPS.

 

[vodka-bull]

It’s funny how fast we got spoiled by 60 FPS on console.

And how fast games became too demanding so the consoles won‘t bring it.

 

[Fbh]

Wasn't particularly interested in this anyway. But if there's no 60fps it's straight into the bargain bin selection

Get ready for Native 30 FPS and Framegen 30+ FPS.

Man I was so naive when this tech was announced.
I was like "cool, with upscaling and frame gen devs will be able to target 1080p-1440p at 60fps and then upscale the image to make it look better and use frame gen to sort out any potential frame drops".

Instead it's increasingly more like
"so the game renders at 720p then gets upscaled to 1440p and we use framegen to increase the 35fps we are getting to 60fps!!!"

 

[owandeseis]

Get ready for Native 30 FPS and Framegen 30+ FPS.

Lag simulator 2018 by zorndyuke <+ me>

Considering 30 FPS games on consoles got 110-150ms latency and Frame Gen adds a bit more, just put 150-200ms on the site and start training

 

[Imtjnotu]

This is why I've been saying that the PS5 Pro needs Zen 4 to round out the performance boost. Alas...

Black myth never even exceeds 20% utilization on my CPU now.

UE5 is a murdering engine

 

[Unknown?]

I want 480i with 120fps.

 

[sendit]

It has Unreal 5 in common. And being 30 fps.

I'm not claiming Avowed is the best looking game ever. I do think some parts of it look great though and it could surprise people

No amount of technology can make a Avowed look good. The game is artistically a disaster.

 

[DavJay]

So normal mode and series S mode

 

[Killer8]

So it's just like any other PS5 game that offers either 4K30 or a lower res at 60? What's the controversy here exactly?

VGC probably aren't technically minded enough to be able to say what the exact framerate was at 1080p. That's why they just said "higher".

Leave it to Digital Foundry or someone to judge it properly.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Didn't the original run at 60fps on the PS2? Or was that just MGS2?