I played Metro: LL on PC for a couple of hours but never finished the game. It was a graphically demanding game and badly optimized. Had to dumb down the graphics (no PhysX, Tessellation, lower details etc) and the game still had framerate drops. If the console versions don't look like shit because the engine still isn't optimized, I'll definitely grab the PS4 version.
I'm not understanding the praise for the pricing.
The trailer mentions the book the games are based on and it seems to have pretty good reviews. Have any of you read it, would you recommend reading it before or after playing the games?
I want to use my new thread posting ability wisely and didn't think this warrants it's own thread...
For the Steam version, hopefully they do what Square Enix did with Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut and offer tiered discounts for owning the games.
12:21 PM - Professor Pew: Yes we will! On Steam, if you own Metro 2033 you get 50% off Metro 2033 Redux, and 25% off the Metro Redux bundle. If you own Metro: Last Light, you get 50% off Metro: Last Light Redux and 25% off the Metro Redux bundle.
12:22 PM - Professor Pew: So if you got Metro 2033 for free through THQ's "free Metro 2033" Facebook giveaway at the end of 2012, but never played it, you can get the Metro 2033 Redux version for half price (half of $24.99 or local price on Steam).
12:23 PM - Professor Pew: Or if you just bought either game during Steam sales and never played it, which sometimes happens with games bought during Steam sales![]()
This is on sale for PC (with DLC for $12.49 on amazon) right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA6YFTQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Why are they charging $50 for the New Gen console versions?
Are these games even that good? I remember people saying Last Light wasn't great
Are these games even that good? I remember people saying Last Light wasn't great
The first book is worth the read, but spoils the first game, the second book is much worse and goes in a diferent direction than the games.
I asked Professor Pew about this. His reply:
metro LL is extremely good performing for its looks IMO... what are your system specs?
And so if i have both games on Steam, and played both, i have still 25 % off from the Redus Bundle?
And so if i have both games on Steam, and played both, i have still 25 % off from the Redus Bundle?
For Steam owners of Metro 2033 and/or Metro: Last Light:
On Steam, if you own Metro 2033 you get 50% off Metro 2033 Redux, and 25% off the Metro Redux bundle. If you own Metro: Last Light, you get 50% off Metro: Last Light Redux and 25% off the Metro Redux bundle.
So if you got Metro 2033 for free through one of the giveaways in the last years, or on sale during a Steam sale, but never played it: you can get the Metro 2033 Redux version for half price. That means you pay $12.49 for Metro 2033 Redux.
If you only want the Redux version of one game, you can pick and choose.
Edit: or what NX just said
Edit 2: To clarify: Metro 2033 Redux and Metro: Last Light Redux will have their own Store Page on Steam. Those should be up later today/this evening. Metro Redux on Steam is a bundle that gives you both games, so you will have both in your Library separately.
On the Xbox Marketplace and the PS Store, you can also buy both games for half the cost of the retail Metro Redux version day one.
Awesome.
But what's the draw? Why do I want to buy LL Redux? Mainly because the info in the OP is confusing to me for some reason.
Still using a Samsung Series 7 Laptop (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/laptops/373027/samsung-series-7-gamer/specifications). Laptop, I know I know. You can get better performance by buying a desktop PC for less money but I like to carry the laptop downstairs and play some games with my brother without moving a complete PC.
Games like BF4 still look pretty decent on my laptop whereas Metro: LL looked and felt really bad. Always had the feeling that my laptop should be able to do better because other games felt and performed much better. But AFAIK the whoe Metro series has a reputation for being badly optimized.
I think it's great that we'll be getting this on current gen at 60fps. Most people know just how demanding the game was on PC and very few people got to enjoy it with that level of fluidity and response time. Even better is the pricing ($25 for each game is AWESOME). I'm just really curious to know how much they had to sacrifice on the graphics fidelity in order to achieve the 60Hz. Looking at the PC benchmarks, it really doesn't seem feasible to get a full 1080p/60fps on PS4 even at medium settings. Case in point:
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So even at medium, a 7850 card is not even at 50 fps. Sure the PS4 is closer to a 7870 (actually a r7 265) but this data seems to suggest that to get 1080p/60 on console, they would have to dial down the settings to sub medium. When considering that even the XB1 runs at 60fps, they would either not have visual parity between the 2 or the settings would have to be reduced even further for a 7790 (ish) card. As you can see, that card is far from 60fps.
It'll be great if they were able to optimize their engine and tap into the console specific optimizations to achieve 1080p/60fps with something close to the "High" settings on PC. That would be awesome. Just not sure how they could have achieved that in just a year. Seems more likely we'll be looking at something around "medium" at least on PS4. Insights?
those people were wrong.Are these games even that good? I remember people saying Last Light wasn't great
Definitely down for the retail version for PS4. 4A rocks!
If you guys played LL but not the library DLC level you are in for a treat my friends. It's my favorite part across all the games; an entire game could be based around the concept: going out into the harsh outside environment, collecting artifacts and opening shortcuts to later parts of the level, then going back to base to sell the artifacts and buy more oxygen filters and gear. It was awesome.
Definitely down for the retail version for PS4. 4A rocks!
If you guys played LL but not the library DLC level you are in for a treat my friends. It's my favorite part across all the games; an entire game could be based around the concept: going out into the harsh outside environment, collecting artifacts and opening shortcuts to later parts of the level, then going back to base to sell the artifacts and buy more oxygen filters and gear. It was awesome.
I think it's great that we'll be getting this on current gen at 60fps. Most people know just how demanding the game was on PC and very few people got to enjoy it with that level of fluidity and response time. Even better is the pricing ($25 for each game is AWESOME). I'm just really curious to know how much they had to sacrifice on the graphics fidelity in order to achieve the 60Hz. Looking at the PC benchmarks, it really doesn't seem feasible to get a full 1080p/60fps on PS4 even at medium settings. Case in point:
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So even at medium, a 7850 card is not even at 50 fps. Sure the PS4 is closer to a 7870 (actually a r7 265) but this data seems to suggest that to get 1080p/60 on console, they would have to dial down the settings to sub medium. When considering that even the XB1 runs at 60fps, they would either not have visual parity between the 2 or the settings would have to be reduced even further for a 7790 (ish) card. As you can see, that card is far from 60fps.
It'll be great if they were able to optimize their engine and tap into the console specific optimizations to achieve 1080p/60fps with something close to the "High" settings on PC. That would be awesome. Just not sure how they could have achieved that in just a year. Seems more likely we'll be looking at something around "medium" at least on PS4. Insights?
The trailer mentions the book the games are based on and it seems to have pretty good reviews. Have any of you read it, would you recommend reading it before or after playing the games?
This is on sale for PC (with DLC for $12.49 on amazon) right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA6YFTQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Why are they charging $50 for the New Gen console versions?
We shall see when it comes out. but IMO, that graph right there you have is using quite an old driver revision and v1.002 of the game. Nvidia and AMD have both improved their performance in the game quite greatly over time.