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[Fox318]

eznark and KOG...

Has their ever been a more mismatched pair?

Well both are kinda bigoted...

 

[CygnusXS]

What is MLB GAFs opinion of Total Average as a stat? I was reading up on it and it seemed like a good stat, so I can't figure out why it's not popular.

It's a BPro stat, isn't it? No one cares about those.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Isn't the record for no runs period? He did have an unearned run in the last game...

aw dammit. Well the franchise record for zero earned runs is 49 innings (Gooden), so he's got that in his sights.

 

[AbortedWalrusFetus]

It's a BPro stat, isn't it? No one cares about those.

I have no idea. All I know about it is from wikipedia, but after reading it it seemed useful as an offensive stat, and I'm not sure why OPS is more popular, for example.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Al Bundy?

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

I have no idea. All I know about it is from wikipedia, but after reading it it seemed useful as an offensive stat, and I'm not sure why OPS is more popular, for example.

Offhand it seems like it overvalues stolen bases, and something about dividing by outs made doesn't seem... valid? But I am not a statistician.

 

[AbortedWalrusFetus]

Offhand it seems like it overvalues stolen bases, and something about dividing by outs made doesn't seem... valid? But I am not a statistician.

On base percentage basically divides by outs in a manner of speaking.

 

[Sharp]

What is MLB GAFs opinion of Total Average as a stat? I was reading up on it and it seemed like a good stat, so I can't figure out why it's not popular.

Honestly I think it's fine, OPS is just more popular for whatever reason and more people know its scale. wOBA / wRC+ are more accurate than either so I try to use that whenever possible.

One criticism I found:

Some analysts look at the game and come to the conclusion that bases gained are what’s important. If a player gains more bases than the number of outs he consumes the better he is. Although in the last twenty years many people have worked on developing such systems, the concept was applied to Major League Baseball as far back as the turn of the century. At that time, a man named Travis Hoke began compiling a base grounded system for Branch Rickey and the St. Louis Browns. Although the system stopped being used after two seasons due to the overwhelming burden of computation placed upon Mr. Hoke, it stands as the first time such as system was developed. (Read all about Mr. Hoke's system in Esquire magazine’s October 1935 issue or at my web site at http://www.baseballstuff.com/btf/pages/essays/rickey/hoke.htm.

Although I guess on some level the whole concept of evaluating players by comparing bases is true, I don't think it's the best way to go. The goal for an offense is to score runs, not to accumulate bases. Although base stats correlate with runs, the correlation is not as high as the correlation for the stats expressed in estimated runs.

 

[cashman]

Rangers were definitely not the better team tonight, but they still got the win. It's been a while since we've gotten one like that, tired of being on the losing end of those.

 

[G-Fex]

eznark and KOG...

Has their ever been a more mismatched pair?

Well both are kinda bigoted...

 

[cashman]

This was a really weird moment in the Rangers-Padres game tonight.

 

[G-Fex]

This was a really weird moment in the Rangers-Padres game tonight.

huh...

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

This was a really weird moment in the Rangers-Padres game tonight.

just like that L.A reporter that had a very, very similar thing happen to her while she was doing a live report on the grammys.

 

[Sharp]

The Baseball Reference fan player rater is absolutely awful. Take Mariano Rivera. By straight WAR he should be ranked #72 and by leverage-adjusted WAR he should be ranked around #34. He has the best ERA+ of all time. He is the best reliever ever and it's not close. Despite these indisputable facts, Mariano Rivera is ranked at #155 on the player rater. Pitchers ranked above him according to the fan rater include Billy Wagner, Trevor Hoffman, Dan Quisenberry, Rollie Fingers, Javier Vazquez and Derek Lowe. People are dumb.

 

[McNei1y]

I'm glad the win for JA Happened.

 

[Sharp]

When is Cy Jurrjens's first start?

 

[Dmncnby2k9]

Dickey.

 

[bryehn]

Aaron Hill hit for the cycle!!

It's pretty incredible that we got him AND Johnny Mac for dumping Kelly Johnson last year.

Hill needed a change of scene bad and KJ is decent enough (lol strikeout king in waiting), but I'm still butthurt over Johnny Mac.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Mcdonald's career defies all logic.

 

[eznark]

This was a really weird moment in the Rangers-Padres game tonight.

Fucking henchmen error resulting in guy on fifth is probably the toughest way to give up a run for any robber

 

[Sanjuro]

Rocket is innocent. Hall of Fame bound!

 

[Sanjuro]

American League lovers are like ketchup on hot dogs lovers.

Get that shit outta here.

 

[CygnusXS]

Just looked at the standings for the first time in a while. Feels bad being a Barves fan right now, but at least we aren't the Phillies.

 

[yankeehater]

Rocket is innocent. Hall of Fame bound!

Not guilty does not equal innocent. I think he has a hard time getting in since it is clear that he took steroids and lied to the government about it.

 

[RBH]

Just looked at the standings for the first time in a while. Feels bad being a Barves fan right now, but at least we aren't the Phillies.

4.5 games back isn't too bad, all things considered. Hopefully things will turn around with the upcoming ten game homestand.

 

[squall211]

It's absolutely mind boggling to think that RA Dickey could have 13 or 14 wins by the All-Star break. Will he get three starts before the break?

 

[Sanjuro]

Not guilty does not equal innocent. I think he has a hard time getting in since it is clear that he took steroids and lied to the government about it.

Sure thing Brian McNamee.

 

[McNei1y]

Wasn't Chet Steadman also nicknamed Rocket?

 

[The Elite]

If everything lines up, I think I could be seeing Dickey vs. Sabathia this Sunday night.

60% chance of Thunderstorms.

 

[eznark]

If I'm Rocket I demand my name be taken off the ballot. I wouldn't want to share any honors with as pedestrian a player as Jim Rice. It sullies his exemplary career.

 

[ToxicAdam]

Indians only a half game out of first with a -40 run differential.

Nothing flukey about the Tribe!

 

[eznark]

Indians only a half game out of first with a -40 run differential.

Nothing flukey about the Tribe!

Detroit is unbeatable!

 

[RBH]

http://baseballplayersalaries.com/

 

[eznark]

Including pre-arb guys into those calculations if dumb.

 

[Link]

I assume Cliff Lee isn't on there purely because you can't get a number multiplying by zero.

 

[eznark]

The cost of Jonathan Sanchez's wins should include the lost wins as a result of trading Melky.

 

[crpav]

Poor white sox

I'm crying.

 

[sf2fanatic]

http://baseballplayersalaries.com/

From the Expensive part isn't Johan the only that earn his check? lol

 

[CygnusXS]

4/6 Most Expensive Wins guys have thrown no-hitters.

 

[Talon]

Beachy needs Tommy John?

We're a .500 team.

 

[sf2fanatic]

4/6 Most Expensive Wins guys have thrown no-hitters.

I left off recently pitched well...My mistake. Roy's case is bad luck

 

[LJ11]

LOL

 

[Link]

I left off recently pitched well...My mistake. Roy's case is bad luck

Santana's gotten so many hard-luck losses and ND's since the Mets acquired him that it's not even funny.

 

[Branduil]

LOL

What's going on here?

 

[LJ11]

What's going on here?

Voodoo

 

[CygnusXS]

I left off recently pitched well...My mistake. Roy's case is bad luck

Oh, I wasn't actually responding to your post. Just stating an interesting fact.

 

[Windu]

Just looked at the standings for the first time in a while. Feels bad being a Barves fan right now, but at least we aren't the Phillies.

tied with the pirates for the last Wild Card. (Mets vs. Braves/Pirates as of now for the 1 game playoff).

 

[Link]

tied with the pirates for the last Wild Card. (Mets vs. Braves/Pirates as of now for the 1 game playoff).

Eh? Giants have the first wildcard spot, Mets have the second.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Oh, I wasn't actually responding to your post. Just stating an interesting fact.

Oh ok. Sorry Didnt realize Sanchez was making that much money

 

[turnbuckle]

Indians only a half game out of first with a -40 run differential.

Nothing flukey about the Tribe!

The central battle for mediocrity is pretty much an annual event now. Only thing that needs to happen is for the Twins to make a surprise run to the playoffs only to get swept in the first round again.