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NFL Week 16 |OT| The Comeback is Bigger than the Win
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Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Well, we were running on first and running on 2nd down (or some whack quick oass to the sidelines that would net 1-2 yards), and Ben would constantly be placed into a 3rd and long situation. He could either A) Throw the ball away and guarantee the drive resulted in nothing or B) Try and make something out of nothing. B obviously didn't work all that well in this game, but the net result is the same as A (ie. no points).
Not only was Ben scrambling the entire season, but the disciplined phase where Ben was racking up large numbers was largely during the stretch where our offensive line was healthy, playing as a unit consistently and blocking well, which led to a short lived renaissance of the running game. When that disappeared, so too did the offense as a whole. We were kind of shit in the beginning of the season if you recall...
I don't think Ben was back long enough (3 games) for you to make an assessment like this, especially when he played well for 99.9% of the Cowboys game. Ben definitely lost us the season, but it was by his absence due to injury, and not his overall play or mentality.
And I'm glad we lost Sunday considering we were unbelievably injured. Heath would have been out for the entire Playoffs.
Futurevoid
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It has the stink of 2009 all over it doesn't it? The difference is at least the offense was still clicking in '09.Wellington said:
Shaub isnt a bad QB. I think it more has to do with coaching.
Excellent.
Ninja Scooter
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Those do look good. Better than what they normally offer anyway.
I love the hell out of those churros.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Right.
In 2009 Eli was ridiculous. Steve Smith was a pro-bowler, Nicks and Manningham showed they were supremely talented just needed play-time. Rushing game wasn't great but it's because we were behind due to a shit D.
At least that year we knew where the holes were. No safeties, no cohesive defensive game plan, DL couldn't produce a pass rush but Canty was out most of the year, Tuck was hurt, etc. This year there are too many leaks and it's hard to determine exactly what the problem was.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
His noodle arm has been awful this year and he's still too damn slow, no coaching can fix that. Maybe it's cause we have had a running game since Foster, but he was better in the past imo. Have not been impressed with his play at all in important games this year, besides the Ravens game.
No one has even seen him in the playoffs yet, this shall be interesting.
Also the Texans could have had Manning over Schaub. Just ugh
Kubes has been awful the past three games, some of his worst coaching since we have become a good team. The players though are just as guilty, the O-line play has just been awful besides the ending of the Colts game.
Ninja Scooter
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Vick coming back one last time to put a nail in the Giants playoff coffins? I like it.
He was just never more than an average QB at best. They asked him to do more this year and he couldn't. But that's good. They won't extend him and make a mistake on an average QB. If you don't have an elite QB that's worth $15m-$20m a year, then you need to be using a low cost one while you try and find the franchise guy. It's stupid to pay average QBs 9m a year when it's so easy to find that level of production for less money
It's his audition for Chip Kelly.
Wellington
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I hope so. Give us a better draft position at this point. No way the Bears, Vikings, and Cowboys all lose.
There isn't a less mobile quarterback in the league than him. There were numerous times yesterday on boots that broke down that any other QB would've been able to at least run and get a 2-3 yard gain rather than throwing the ball away or at the feet of receivers.
Weak arm -- hardly ever throws deep which means teams don't really need to account for it. Except on the boots, but you bottle that up and he becomes an extremely average QB
Scared to stand in the pocket. In the beginning of the year he did this (Denver hit) but like I said yesterday seems like he's playing scared.
Downs that require 8 yards for a first, he throws for a gain of 4. That may be more with Kubiak but that has happened way too many times this year
Everytime theres a game that means something he sweats like he's outside in a fucking rain storm
yeah but his play action game might be the best in the game!
mastershake
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Coffee is a gift from the Gods
TheJollyCorner
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So VIKEBIKE's gonna have Niners and Hawks fans cheering for them this weekend?
I'm not counting all of the other fanbases that just want to watch GB get beat.
For a team that was 2-12 this time last year (on the way to a pointless third win), I'm impressed with what Frazier has done this season. Also- Spielman's drafting. Matt Kalil, Harrison Smith, Josh Robinson, Blair Walsh, and even Rhett Ellison. Absolutely wonderful young pick-ups.
A few more nice picks, more Ponder growing/improving, and this team could be a decent threat in the NFC for years to come.
I expect a classic NFC North black-and-blue game this weekend. Everything on the line. Glorious football, boys, win or lose.
I'm not counting all of the other fanbases that just want to watch GB get beat.
For a team that was 2-12 this time last year (on the way to a pointless third win), I'm impressed with what Frazier has done this season. Also- Spielman's drafting. Matt Kalil, Harrison Smith, Josh Robinson, Blair Walsh, and even Rhett Ellison. Absolutely wonderful young pick-ups.
A few more nice picks, more Ponder growing/improving, and this team could be a decent threat in the NFC for years to come.
I expect a classic NFC North black-and-blue game this weekend. Everything on the line. Glorious football, boys, win or lose.
Probably the case. QBs can be so up and down. I think Brees misses Payton clearly, but honestly he always has two or three games where he plays like dogshit, and thats even when Payton is there, so this year was a bit similar. But Payton would be able to outcoach the other guy and that made a lot of the difference this year. Brees still got the team to a possible 8-8 so thats not too awful. I still think he was worth the big payday, because otherwise, this team would be 100% fucked. It says a lot about him that a bad year consisted of 39 TDs and 4700 yards, although his interception total was pretty bad. But a lot of times he was pressing because our defense is some of the worst ever seen. Gotta get him some help up front and get osme pass rush for next year.
DeaconKnowledge
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Ben was not scrambling the entire season. He was taking those measured, short throws. His completion percentage was way up and the receivers made plays. He gave that up when he returned. The running was still poor.
The gameplan yesterday was no different from Haley than it was at the beginning of the year with one exception - more no huddle to shut Ben up.
Ben was playing well the whole Cowboys game also, until the end. That interception that led to the loss was on him - he called it out of no huddle.
I think Reese has to take some of the blame here (Austin looks like a pure bum pick, and aside from Beatty our OL picks haven't panned out), and I'm a Reese fanboy.
In all honesty, I wonder if these's a front office/coaching staff schism as while Reese gets us good players (sans linebackers) I just wonder if he's not getting the right players that the coaches need.
The 2012 team is honestly Coughlin's worst coached year as he stayed loyal to players that he shouldn't of been loyal too, in Bradshaw (Brown should of gotten alot more playing time) and Diehl in addition to constantly trotting out a clearly hurt Nicks. This is like him putting O'Hara back in after O'hara was completely done in 2010.
mastershake
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Vikings and Cowboys will definitely lose. So really all you have to hope for is that the Lions get their shit together, show some pride, and beat a Bears team that has been struggling for the entire second half of the season.
Yeah ok you are screwed.
Buckethead
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FrenchMovieTheme
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after he gets suspended for cheating the parking lot will have 1 less escalade in it (which is what i assume richard sherman drives)
Plasticine
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Nemesis121
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Ænima;45734390 said:
Giants are done and i hope Philly wins so their fans can be happy about winning another NFC east SB...
If a Packers win helps the Bears, I want the Packers to lose. Fuck those fucking fibs.
Sando has said a few times he thinks Wilson will be the divsiion's best QB simply b/c no one will work harder. Coming in on Mondays and watching film isn't just PR fluff. It's the kind of stuff that wins games
Alligatorjandro
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This years playoffs should be the best in a while.
Yeah if the running game is working which it hasnt been. Then its checkdown city or under throwing Dre.
If Dre was so good he could throw to himself
FrenchMovieTheme
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not too concerned about wussle. our defense came out flat last night, didn't seem like we did anything unique and didn't really have any interest in being there. harbaugh knows a bye week is the kiss of death so he sabotaged his own team, lomas brown style
After the debacle from yesterday I seriously wonder if we can beat the Colts 2nd stringers. I wouldnt play my starters if the game was complely meaningless for my team. yeah if no one gets hurt its a good call but what if Luck snaps a tendon or Wayne blows a knee? then its the dumbest decision ever.
Gruden calling Megatron's accomplishments meaningless. OH YEAH GRUDEN?? You wanna prove you could do better with the Lions than Schwartz?? Prove you could use Stafford's strengths, use Megatron all over the field??? How about you come coach them and prove it???
I'll even buy the plane ticket.
Please Gruden. Pretty please.
I'll even buy the plane ticket.
Please Gruden. Pretty please.
FrenchMovieTheme
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why do bad things happen to good fans like us mechdx? why? what kind of god lets this happen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ymkoh-vKzM
4:15 mark. the Juggs machine is more mobile than Schaub.
Fuck it! Texans/Niners Superbowl! NFL GAF just dont give a fuck BITCHHHHHHHHHHH!!
BH:Hey gary?
GK:Yeah Jim
BH: Fuck em!
GK: Yes sir!
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