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[Socreges]

You don't know what Gillis is asking for, so you can't really say we've seen it in practice. He could be being very specific/picky with what he's after. We just don't know.

The whole "contract is a huge issue" thing is media babble. Whether or not it really will get in the way of the Canucks getting a good deal still remains to be seen. I don't believe it will. GM's are paid to win games. I doubt a $2 million per year cap hit at the end of the deal is going to get in the way of a deal if a GM feels they can get the extra wins they need to make the playoffs or do some damage with Luongo in their lineup.

Dude, this is the second time in a few days where you've lost sight of how the conversations started.

I said "it is unreasonably long and makes teams hesitant to take it on." (THIS IS TRUE), not that it's a "huge issue"

And you replied "The contract thing is bullshit. When Luongo retires, it's off the books." (THIS IS UNTRUE)

And yes, we don't have absolute certainty as to what's gone on. But we know that Gillis has been eagerly trying last summer and for the past month to move Luongo, but hasn't been able to. You think the contract hasn't been an obstacle? Come on, son

 

[wsoxfan1214]

Pathetic power play.

 

[Chris R]

At least the glass didn't shatter.

 

[Heretic]

THAT WAS FUCKING HOLDING FIRST!!!

That's game for sure.

 

[wsoxfan1214]

THAT WAS FUCKING HOLDING FIRST!!!

That's game for sure.

Consider it a make up call.

 

[Marvie_3]

Karma got Sharp right in the face for holding Lydman

 

[Heretic]

Consider it a make up call.

Yep...

 

[Dastardly Jerks]

Consider it a make up call.

For what? The 2nd goal call?

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Wild to score 5 goals. Make me proud!

 

[wsoxfan1214]

For what? The 2nd goal call?

that was a goal.

The goalie interference.

 

[CCF23]

Dude, this is the second time in a few days where you've lost sight of how the conversations started.

I said "it is unreasonably long and makes teams hesitant to take it on." (THIS IS TRUE), not that it's a "huge issue"

And you replied "The contract thing is bullshit. When Luongo retires, it's off the books." (THIS IS UNTRUE)

And yes, we don't have absolute certainty as to what's gone on. But we know that Gillis has been eagerly trying last summer and for the past month to move Luongo, but hasn't been able to. You think the contract hasn't been an obstacle? Come on, son

You can't unequivocally say that that's true, though. Gillis hasn't been trying to "eagerly" move Luongo. If he just wanted to simply unload him, he could've moved him ages ago when the Leafs reportedly offered Schenn. Gillis is a patient man, as has been proven by his actions time and time again. He's clearly looking for a specific package that hasn't come along yet. Does that mean that teams are "hesitant" to take on Luongo's contract? Not necessarily.

I've already admitted that I was incorrect with the retirement thing, but that doesn't change my point about it being speculative that the contract is such a big hurdle in a potential Luongo deal.

 

[TemplaerDude]

Canucks special teams looking not bad right now.

 

[Dastardly Jerks]

that was a goal.

The goalie interference.

"That" was a "goal".

 

[wsoxfan1214]

Put saad in instead of sharp.

And it was in. Clearly.

 

[Marvie_3]

"That" was a "goal".

Exactly. I still haven't seen a replay that shows the puck in before the net was off.

 

[Dastardly Jerks]

Put saad in instead of sharp.

And it was in. Clearly.

Decisive evidence solely from a camera on a crossbar that wasn't aligned with the blue line.

Exactly. I still haven't seen a replay that shows the puck in before the net was off.

Thank you.

 

[Heretic]

JUST END THE FUCKING GAME ALREADY!!!

 

[wsoxfan1214]

Bad PP again. we're gonna lose.

 

[RaySpencer]

Kane is such a douche, but god damn if that wasn't the greatest haircut of all time. Hahaha. I loved it so much that I don't even hate him anymore.

 

[Marvie_3]

jesus fucking christ sharp. go sit the fuck down until you figure out what you're doing on the ice.

 

[Heretic]

Shootout.

 

[Marvie_3]

Ducks are gonna win this in the SO

 

[Dastardly Jerks]

Sharp is our best PKer.

 

[wsoxfan1214]

Ducks to win in shootout

 

[Heretic]

Kane is going to embarrass Fasth :'(

 

[TemplaerDude]

Gimmie those goals

 

[Dastardly Jerks]

Crawford was great, if he keeps it up we're in trouble.

Kane to make Fasth lose his junk.

 

[Unhandled Exception]

Looks like we're trading O'Reilly. So fuck everything. Fuck this ownership and fuck everything else.

 

[Tabris]

What I love about watching our 1st line is there's just so many times they look like they are on the PP but it's 5 on 5. Doesn't always lead to goals but it's fun to watch!

 

[CCF23]

Looks like we're trading O'Reilly. So fuck everything.

???

 

[Dastardly Jerks]

Ahahaha just noticed Tabris' new tag. Slow.

 

[Heretic]

Damn. That's just the way the game has gone

 

[TemplaerDude]

Our backup isn't really getting tested right now.

 

[wsoxfan1214]

Fuck shootouts.

enjoy heretic

 

[Heretic]

FUYCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

 

[Unhandled Exception]

???

Dreger: Sources say there are trade discussions between the Avalanche and Eastern Conference teams. One team told me earlier that the expected return is a roster player and a top prospect. There is going to have to be a tough decision for Greg Sherman and the Avalanche as they sit last in the Western Conference and they might be thinking about the draft and building for the future.

.

 

[Seda]

Freaking shootouts.

 

[Heretic]

FASTH RECORD 6 - 0 - 0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

So glad I started Fasth on my fantasy team.

 

[Marvie_3]

Good game Ducks-GAF



At least we didn't have to suffer through Sharp pissing away another chance in the SO

 

[Dastardly Jerks]

FASTH RECORD 6 - 0 - 0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DucksWin.gif

GJ Hawks, your record remains.

 

[CCF23]

Holy fuck what a thing of beauty.

 

[TemplaerDude]

HANSEN OH YEAH BITCHES

 

[Revenant]

fell asleep at the wheel boys! mixed bag but another point is somewhat of a consolation prize.

Two good teams going at it, somebody had to lose.

 

[Socreges]

You can't unequivocally say that that's true, though. Gillis hasn't been trying to "eagerly" move Luongo. If he just wanted to simply unload him, he could've moved him ages ago when the Leafs reportedly offered Schenn. Gillis is a patient man, as has been proven by his actions time and time again. He's clearly looking for a specific package that hasn't come along yet. Does that mean that teams are "hesitant" to take on Luongo's contract? Not necessarily.

So now we do know what's going on behind the scenes? Huh?

And he hasn't been eagerly trying to move Luongo? He hasn't done various interviews talking up Luongo? He hasn't travelled to watch a Washington game in order to get people talking about Washington potentially being interested? He hasn't hinted to the media about potential deals in place and not released any specifics, despite professing previously that he disliked the media being used in this way? He hasn't said to the media that talks go on "almost every day about Luongo" (if this is even true, it's because he's often the one starting these conversations)? etc

Gillis is certainly a patient man. And he's certainly waiting for a specific package. I've said this many times. But he's not getting what he's looking for, not because GMs don't see Luongo as an elite goaltender, but because they're not willing to pay full value when Luongo's contract comes with risks. GMs have publicly stated this:

“We have not had one conversation about goaltending,” he said of Gillis. “And on TV they’re talking about what prospect I’m going to give up. Well, I could never take [Luongo’s] contract.”

 

[Dastardly Jerks]

Seriously thought Hawks had this.

 

[RC]

Hanny with the sen!

I don't even know what I'm saying anymore.

 

[Tabris]

Admit it, Ray Ray is slowly getting to you guys! The love is starting to grow!

 

[Heretic]

Seriously thought Hawks had this.

Same here...

*bro-hug*

 

[TemplaerDude]

Don't fucking call him that, Tabris.