nubbe said:Money can't buy love
You can't force technology to advance even if you throw money at it. Engineers need time to tweak the process, etc.Smiles and Cries said:strange news about MS they have the money how they make such a mistake?
Skin said:Where were you with math class? 60-70% of 3.0ghz lies more in the 1.7ghz-2.2ghz region.
Pimpwerx said:Bullshit. No system this gen will have a physics processing unit. You guys read way too much B3D without having a damn clue. If any system was to actually have one, what makes you think it would be Nintendo? What's the last Nintendo game you played that used a realistic physics model? A PPU would have to be the biggest waste of silicon in a game machine considering most game worlds are completely artificial and thus don't need the processing power of an entire chip. It would be smarter to pack in a high-powered audio chip or a DVD burner or something. Let this PPU bullshit die once and for all. PEACE.
Pimpwerx said:Bullshit. No system this gen will have a physics processing unit. You guys read way too much B3D without having a damn clue. If any system was to actually have one, what makes you think it would be Nintendo? What's the last Nintendo game you played that used a realistic physics model? A PPU would have to be the biggest waste of silicon in a game machine considering most game worlds are completely artificial and thus don't need the processing power of an entire chip. It would be smarter to pack in a high-powered audio chip or a DVD burner or something. Let this PPU bullshit die once and for all. PEACE.
Skin said:Can someone explain me the point of a "high-powered audio chip" I mean sure sound is important but were there even big advancements over the ones used in current gen audiochips?
Pimpwerx said:Bullshit. No system this gen will have a physics processing unit. You guys read way too much B3D without having a damn clue. If any system was to actually have one, what makes you think it would be Nintendo? What's the last Nintendo game you played that used a realistic physics model? A PPU would have to be the biggest waste of silicon in a game machine considering most game worlds are completely artificial and thus don't need the processing power of an entire chip. It would be smarter to pack in a high-powered audio chip or a DVD burner or something. Let this PPU bullshit die once and for all. PEACE.
A PPU doesnt have to process real physics to be useful.Pimpwerx said:Bullshit. No system this gen will have a physics processing unit. You guys read way too much B3D without having a damn clue. If any system was to actually have one, what makes you think it would be Nintendo? What's the last Nintendo game you played that used a realistic physics model? A PPU would have to be the biggest waste of silicon in a game machine considering most game worlds are completely artificial and thus don't need the processing power of an entire chip. It would be smarter to pack in a high-powered audio chip or a DVD burner or something. Let this PPU bullshit die once and for all. PEACE.
Fularu said:Well Waverace or MArio Sunshine come to mind
John Harker said:I want to start a movement.
I think henceforth all reference to Nintendo Revolution should hearby called
"New Sexy"
Examples:
WOAOA!?!?! Did you see the New Sexy YET?!?!
and
Damn. Nintendo got some serious New Sexy going on.
or
So I was alone last night in my room after I got back from the bar, and I put on some Miles Davis, ya know, I was feelin' the vibe, so I dimmed the lights, reached down..... took it out.... and played some New Sexy. Was everything I thought it was going to be, and SO much more....
Smiles and Cries said:I'm calling my lawyer you stole my NEW SEXY (tm)
Nintendo New Sexy (N5XY)
John Harker said:Actually, if you wanna get technical....
I said Really Sexy first.
And then you copied it, but "changed" it to New Sexy.
But I digress.
haha, either way its a funny story, sorry I jacked your NS.
Smiles and Cries said:
GIR said:A PPU doesnt have to process real physics to be useful.
Holo Dr. Mario can give you a physical in your own living room.ge-man said:Also, maybe the reason we haven't seen extensive physical this generation is because the power wasn't there for it.
JoshuaJSlone said:Holo Dr. Mario can give you a physical in your own living room.
In theory, yes. Cell is assymetrical. It has 9 cores, one of which is different from the others. It acts as the "director/coordinator" tasking the other 8 cores to do stuff. It can also handle a lot of code itself. You could conceivably have one core coordinating the other 3 in this Rev chip, but then those cache specs would be wrong. I don't understand what the 128K of L1 means. That's can't be shared. 32K of L1 per core seems too small for this gen of processors. I believe each SPE on Cell has 128K to itself, and overall it's like 1.5-2MB of total cache on-chip. I should look again at the spec to make sure, but it just sounds really phoney to say the least. Take these specs with the whole goddamn salt flats. :lol PEACE.UltraMagnanimous said:I know little about microprocessors, but do the four cores have to be identical? Could one or two be altered slightly to allow for specialist physics based instructions? Or similar to the rumours about PS3 not giving developers full access to all Cell chips/cores? (for whatever reason in PS3's case)
/talking out of my ass.
:lol Kill what thread, this one is not saying muchJohn Harker said:No, I know you said New Sexy first.
I apologized for stealing it.
I just meant I said Really Sexy first. And then later on you said Real Sexy.
I just meant it for the Nintendo RS. I was just trying to be funny with my story, and I thought sourcing you would have detracted from it. Nevermind. It was stupid. Now we are killing this thread.... or are we?!
captmcblack said:Whatever he tells you though, he's not a real doctor.
DON'T LET HIM TOUCH YOUR GENITALS.
God's Hand said:I have a friend who works at a pretty big developer here in the city, and they recently got some tools and documentation from Nintendo for the Revolution. He's essentially told me that Nintendo's gone all out with the console, and doubters are in for a few surprises. This developer is interested in the Revolution, which is pretty big news to me. Although I'm not a fan of their games...
I guess we just have to wait a few more days.
Dude I totally agree, a PPU in any next gen consoles would be pretty much useless at this stage IMO, I think the CPU's will have enough grunt to take care of any necessary AI and physics be it real or unreal, however I doubt anyone will be disappointed if a PPU doesnt show up in Nintendo console (or any other console) these specs were confirmed as fake, and werent even posted by the real aries who himself may be posting fake info too.Pimpwerx said:I know, it's for collision detection, etc... But what's the point? It's totally not necessary. HL2 has a great physics engine and doesn't need a PPU. Next gen processors will be more powerful than what PCs have today, so it's totally pointless unless Nintendo's really going for something crazy next gen. Seems to me that putting in a whole chip just to do physics is a colossal waste of silicon. I've said this from the first PPU rumor until now. It's fucking bullshit. If I'm wrong, you can rip me a new one from here to the middle of next year. But it makes no sense whatsoever. That PPU won't be cheap. It's basically another FP cruncher. That's not cheap. Why not put that money into the GPU? Better graphics will do far more to sell the system than a physics unit.
You are so very wrong with that statement, so very, very wrong.Speevy said:I love the Revolution speculation. It may not have any third party support, but the console itself sure kicks the crap out of everything else! :lol
Gaia Theory said:You are so very wrong with that statement, so very, very wrong.
John Harker said:If you mean "in the city" as in New York City, then you mean Atari 'cause its the only one around here. Which sucks.
I love the Revolution speculation. It may not have any third party support, but the console itself sure kicks the crap out of everything else!
Because everyone here is in the "industry" :lolJohn Harker said:Why does everyone "know something for a fact" or at least like to hint that they do?
Why is everyone so damn coy?!?!