Buggy Loop
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Are we talking about Snapdragon XR2 Gen 2 with Adreno 740 GPU?
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Nintendo Switch 2: as fast as the PS4, with DLSS and 4K at 30 FPS
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Are we talking about Snapdragon XR2 Gen 2 with Adreno 740 GPU?
Astral Dog
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All this speculation is so worthless, of course Switch 2 won't be around Xbox Series S level
30fps at 4k?what does that even mean?i imagine they could support 60fps in some cases , the games would just look ugly or simple(no AAA)
Switch 2 will be around last generation level of power, with a few new tricks and more modern hardware
30fps at 4k?what does that even mean?i imagine they could support 60fps in some cases , the games would just look ugly or simple(no AAA)
Switch 2 will be around last generation level of power, with a few new tricks and more modern hardware
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
4chan or a random twitter. Choose your poison.
LOL maybe it will be as poweful as the Xbox One. If they can sell something comparable to the Deck for $300 or $350 and gain profit at launch maybe it will equal the deck. Remember Nintendo didn't sell at loss when the Switch came out for $300. They would want to have profits. Also don't think the Switch 2 will cost more than $300-350.
Buggy Loop
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They'll end up looking better than native 4k anyway.
Native 4k without any form of TAA is complete garbage
Mister Wolf
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I would be happy with 1440p or 1800p DLSS Quality.
nial
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???????????? How is that even a generational leap in comparison to the Switch?
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Sorry but I don't believe a made up bullshit Switch 2 "leak" coming from a rando on 4chan.
AGRacing
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Uh no.
DLSS scaling to 4K from what? What resolution could a PS4 render a native next gen game at today? 900p? 720p? less?
Better than native? No chance.
asdasdasdbb
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If it was coming out this year, it'd have to be announced pretty soon, right? Maybe around E3?
I have doubts this guy is legit but at least he did his homework.
I have doubts this guy is legit but at least he did his homework.
StreetsofBeige
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Specs wise I dont really care to guess if its true or not.
The key thing I saw was "second half 2023" that seems like BS to me. Seems to close and Switch is still selling well (although it's tailing off from past years). I'll take a guess and say its a fall 2024 release.
The key thing I saw was "second half 2023" that seems like BS to me. Seems to close and Switch is still selling well (although it's tailing off from past years). I'll take a guess and say its a fall 2024 release.
winjer
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Or Moore's Law is Dead.
blacktout
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Yeah, this was my immediate thought too. The slightly larger carts would be to prevent kids from cramming a Switch 2 game into the OG Switch and wondering why it won't play. Meanwhile, OG Switch carts would probably fit into the new slot without issue.
That's assuming this isn't complete bullshit, which, I mean, it's 4chan, so ...
Stuart360
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XB1 is 3 times more powerful than Switch, and this is Nintendo we are talking about, would you really be THAT surprised if Switch 2 had 3 times the power of the Switch?
nial
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Yes? We all know it'll be underpowered for a home console, but holy shit at least I expect it to be an actual generational upgrade over what we have now. The fact that so many people would be fine with base PS4/XONE power-level in 2024-2027 is laughable.
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Buggy Loop
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You need AA at 4k. This is no debate. The resolution alone is not even close to anti-aliasing solutions. Transparencies and pixel shimmering, they are almost agnostic to resolution and will appear even at 8k.
So pick your poison
TAA?
That's not solving the temporal solution without substantial motion ghosting and artifacts and you have softening.
Even DLSS balanced and arguably performance will outmatch it.
Remove TAA and it's not even comparable in motion. 4k pure native is trash.
Stuart360
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I dont think many would be happy with it, its more poeple just being realistic when it comes to Nintendo.
nial
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Realistic according to what? It wasn't the case with 3DS and Wii U.
Stuart360
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Oh dude, lets just wait and see shall we lol.
Just as a matter of interest, what kind of level are you expecting?.
T4keD0wN
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Q4 2021 - Nintendo president says the Switch is only at the "mid-point" of its lifecycle
Sure 4chan bro.
AGRacing
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You need AA at 4k. This is no debate. The resolution alone is not even close to anti-aliasing solutions. Transparencies and pixel shimmering, they are almost agnostic to resolution and will appear even at 8k.
So pick your poison
TAA?
That's not solving the temporal solution without substantial motion ghosting and artifacts and you have softening.
Even DLSS balanced and arguably performance will outmatch it.
Remove TAA and it's not even comparable in motion. 4k pure native is trash.
What's your point ?
Mine was and is that native 4K absolutely would look better than DLSS in what amounts to extreme performance mode with so many pixels to generate from such a low res initial image. That point is correct.
VS DLSS Quality mode? Ok sure. Making a A 4K image of a next gen game out of the output of a PS4 grade machine ? Nah.
That would be the right opportunity to throw around the word "trash".
asdasdasdbb
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If you call it a home console, the Switch is already the longest generation Nintendo console.
tkscz
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This rumor clashes with the previous one that they were going with Ampere+ (Samsung's 5nm Ampere) but that got cann'd because Nvidia parted ties with Samsung. Not to mention it's just a screenshot. I know you can't post 4chan links here, but you can send the link to a mod who can confirm it. Otherwise it's
nial
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Xbox One X level is a given to me.
asdasdasdbb
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More than that is unrealistic unless they use an very expensive node, given that we are talking like 7-10 W.
nowhat
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Yeah right.
I'll make a prediction though - despite beefier hardware, most games will not support any kind of anti-aliasing.
Stuart360
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A 6TF handheld?, by Nintendo?, come on dude.
So you're expecting Switch 2 to be 50-60% the power of XSX and PS5?.
Buggy Loop
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This is literally 1080p -> 4K
And against the engine’s TAA
Let’s not even get into checkerboard solutions that PS4 had to reach decent resolution, would be no match to DLSS
Who even mentions to run « next gen » games at 4K on a mobile chip? Where did that new goal post come from?
Madserb2023
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It won't be half as powerful as the Xbox One X when docked. It will be like the Xbox One S when in handheld mode at a push. To be honest I stopped reading when it said it would have a 1080p screen. No chance. It will either be 720p or slightly higher like 800p.
asdasdasdbb
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Probally
amigastar
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I'm sure for a new Mario game it will be 4K 60 FPS. Nintendo will manage this somehow."As fast as the PS4 with DLSS and 4K 30 FPS"
SF Kosmo
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My assumption is that this means 1080p upscaled to 4K, not native 4K.
I could see a ~1.5 TFLOP system being able to do this more or less.
Obviously 4chan rumor is 4chan rumor, but that isn't a crazy prediction.
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Daniel_Mallorca1985
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New Nintendo console ?
Day one purchase for me
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