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[Indyana]

Pretty low numbers for December.

They are so low I can only see one number.

Come on Nintendo! Give us your PR.

 

[Karma]

PS3 below 1 million would be terrible.

 

[PJX]

In 2012, surely. Knowing MS not till fall 2012 though. MS is so fall oriented. They probably dont see the sales the rest of the year as worth bothering with.

What we're missing is Nintendo PR. That always comes, then we combine that with the MS market share percent they always give us to get the PS3 numbers.

I'm wondering of Nintendo considers their recent PR their PR quota for the month.

That's weird considering almost all of their price cuts came before Fall.

 

[nasos_333]

Care to explain how anything we've seen of this game does not look atrocious?

I am a huge SW fan, i agree this one does not look like much, still i cant wait to play it, has been a while since my last SW game

 

[Paracelsus]

PS3 below 1 million would be terrible.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=457687

I think that's a given.

 

[Road]

Collation of statements:

NPD analyst Anita Frazier notes that Skylanders Spyro's Adventure is not on the list due to character packs and software bundles falling into the accessories category. However, if those sales were taken into account, the game "would rank 4th in December, and 11th for Annual 2011 on dollar sales."

In addition, Star Wars: The Old Republic was the 14th highest-selling title in December. Frazier also notes that "there is one title that would have fallen in the top 10 for December if we were ranking on an SKU basis rather than on a combined platform basis as we do now: The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword was the 10th best selling software SKU for the month of December."

Frazier notes that sales for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 were up 5% in 2011 and that "the Xbox 360 platform accounted for nearly 40% of annual 2011 new physical retail sales across all categories." She also wrote that Xbox 360 and PS3 "were the two platforms to realize a unit sales increase over last year. All other platforms declined in unit sales versus 2010 (save the 3DS which wasn't in market last year)." Finally, she notes that "Wii and the PS3 were neck and neck in second place for Annual 2011."

http://games.ign.com/articles/121/1216446p1.html

Frazier noted that the only platforms to see a month-on-month increase during December were the 3DS and DS, "which is highly unusual since typically all platforms enjoy a lift in the biggest month at retail

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-12-modern-warfare-3-xbox-360-top-us-2011-charts

I think the last comment is based on weekly averages if talking about hardware units, or else it doesn't make sense.

 

[Hero]

So Skyward Sword would place at 10th if it were individual SKU rather than combined multiplatform.

Wonder what kind of figure that would put it at.

 

[Kazerei]

"There is one title that would have fallen in the top 10 for December if we were ranking on an SKU basis rather than on a combined platform basis as we do now: Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword was the 10th best selling software SKU for the month of December."

Yay, at least Zelda isn't dead yet in North America

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Nintendo really needs to bring some innovation with their launch software for WiiU. I think there's a lot of people who will be interested in games just because they're not part of a series and with Nintendo launching WiiU a good bit before the Xbox 3 and PS4, they could pretty easily establish some new IPs which could help the WiiU be more diverse. Could be a lot of sequel fatigue out there that could be capatilized on.

 

[specialguy]

That's weird considering almost all of their price cuts came before Fall.

I remember some timed for Madden in August which is basically Fall. What were their others?

 

[Kusagari]

HOLY SHIT at Skylanders sales!

 

[tzare]

You're terribly bitter about that.
They sold roughly 3.8 million 360s to US
consumers alone for the quarter, that's record
sales for the platform.

not bitter at all. just expect the same criteria to be used for all. but that is not the case. and yeah 360 is doing awesome in the us. they will beat nintendo next gen too unless they do weird things. in the us.

 

[angelfly]

Both MK7 and SM3DL in the top 10 is pleasing. As for 360 I expected the number to be higher. Still expect to see 3DS over 2 million.

 

[Saiyar]

HOLY SHIT at Skylanders sales!

Skylanders has been a huge success. I thought this was known?

 

[gkryhewy]

The 3DS and the DS were the only platforms to realize a unit sales increase versus November, which is highly unusual since typically all platforms enjoy a lift in the biggest month at retail.”

And I was called crazy for predicting a M-O-M decline for PS3. Holy hell. I guess this is what great BF deals and a pretty passive December will get you.

 

[eBay Huckster]

Both MK7 and SM3DL in the top 10 is pleasing. As for 360 I expected the number to be higher. Still expect to see 3DS and Wii over 2 million.

maybe if you combine the two, it's mathematically impossible given MS's PR for the Wii to be over ~1 million on the month

 

[bigtroyjon]

I remember some timed for Madden in August which is basically Fall. What were their others?

Beginning of August is fall now? That's silly.

They dropped the slim on us in June, not really any actual reason to think they only care about fall sales.

 

[allan-bh]

PS3 under 900k?

 

[user_nat]

Both MK7 and SM3DL in the top 10 is pleasing. As for 360 I expected the number to be higher. Still expect to see 3DS and Wii over 2 million.

Impossible since 360 had almost half of console sales.

And the Wii is down on a weekly basis from November (as are the HD twins).

 

[Bryan1321]

So Zelda did good? Is there a way to take a number of sales with the new statement?

 

[Saiyar]

PS3 under 900k?

900K to 1M based on what we know. It looks like it was beaten by the Wii in december.

 

[Mrbob]

Both MK7 and SM3DL in the top 10 is pleasing. As for 360 I expected the number to be higher. Still expect to see 3DS over 2 million.

3DS over 2 million? You might want to temper expectations.

HOLY SHIT at Skylanders sales!

Activision with another franchise to milk. Gotta give them credit, though. They tried something new and it worked.

 

[Kusagari]

So the likely top 10 seperately is probably:
MW3 360
MW3 PS3
Just Dance 3 Wii
Just Dance 3 360
Skyrim 360
Mario Kart 7
Battlefield 3 360
AC: R 360
Super Mario Land 3D
Skyward Sword

With Dance Central 2 and Kinect Sports 2 at 11 and 12.

 

[gkryhewy]

900K to 1M based on what we know. It looks like it was beaten by the Wii in december.

It's less than 900k since it had 900k last month and NPD says it had a M-O-M decline.

 

[Nirolak]

900K to 1M based on what we know. It looks like it was beaten by the Wii in december.

November Sales:

360 - 1.7 Million (+24%)
PS3 - ~900K (+70%)
WII - 860k (-32%)
3DS - 795k
NDS - 350k (-77%)

-“Hardware was particularly hard hit in December. Normally, we see sales increase from November to December on an average sales per week basis (keeping in mind December is a 5-week retail month as compared to November which is a 4-week retail month). The 3DS and the DS were the only platforms to realize a unit sales increase versus November, which is highly unusual since typically all platforms enjoy a lift in the biggest month at retail.”

 

[Gadfly]

So the likely top 10 seperately is probably:
MW3 360
MW3 PS3
Just Dance 3 Wii
Just Dance 3 360
Skyrim 360
Mario Kart 7
Battlefield 3 360
AC: R 360
Super Mario Land 3D
Skyward Sword

With Dance Central 2 and Kinect Sports 2 at 11 and 12.

huh? I thought both DC2 ans KS2 are in tp 10.

 

[RukusProvider]

Top 10 individual CONSOLE SKU should look like:

1. Just Dance 3 (Wii)
2. CoD: MW3 (360)
3. Skyrim (360)
4. CoD: MW3 (PS3)
5. BF3 (360)
6. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360)
7. Just Dance 3 (360)
8: Zelda (Wii)
9. Kinect Sports: Season 2 (360)
10. Dance Central 2 (360)


I'm assuming the MS PR title boasting is in order of sales. If we know where MW3 PS3 placed, we should have it perfect.

 

[bigtroyjon]

So the likely top 10 seperately is probably:
MW3 360
MW3 PS3
Just Dance 3 Wii
Just Dance 3 360
Skyrim 360
Mario Kart 7
Battlefield 3 360
AC: R 360
Super Mario Land 3D
Skyward Sword

With Dance Central 2 and Kinect Sports 2 at 11 and 12.

JD 360 is down the list, Microsoft usually lists the games in order on their PR when they mention the top 10.

 

[idlewild_]

It's less than 900k since it had 900k last month and NPD says it had a M-O-M decline.

Maybe I misunderstood, but it appeared to be saying that the average sales per week declined, but not necessarily that total sales for the month did (4 week vs 5 week)

 

[Saiyar]

November Sales:

360 - 1.7 Million (+24%)
PS3 - ~900K (+70%)
WII - 860k (-32%)
3DS - 795k
NDS - 350k (-77%)

-“Hardware was particularly hard hit in December. Normally, we see sales increase from November to December on an average sales per week basis (keeping in mind December is a 5-week retail month as compared to November which is a 4-week retail month). The 3DS and the DS were the only platforms to realize a unit sales increase versus November, which is highly unusual since typically all platforms enjoy a lift in the biggest month at retail.”

In that case Microsofts 46% market share claim makes no sense.

Maybe I misunderstood, but it appeared to be saying that the average sales per week declined, but not necessarily that total sales for the month did (4 week vs 5 week)

That would explain it.

 

[olimpia84]

And so the 3DS craze is beginning...I'm really curious about HW and SW numbers.

Happy to see that Zelda made it to the top 10
No Uncharted 3

 

[jman2050]

huh? I thought both DC2 ans KS2 are in tp 10.

They ignored the two 3DS games in that PR.

 

[gkryhewy]

Maybe I misunderstood, but it appeared to be saying that the average sales per week declined, but not necessarily that total sales for the month did (4 week vs 5 week)

Don't think so: two separate, unrelated statements in those two sentences.

 

[MatthewB92]

In that case Microsofts 46% market share claim makes no sense.

Most likely mean for 360/PS3/Wii only.
I would think at lease.

 

[RukusProvider]

In that case Microsofts 46% market share claim makes no sense.



That would explain it.

MS PR never included handhelds.

 

[user_nat]

So the likely top 10 seperately is probably:
MW3 360
MW3 PS3
Just Dance 3 Wii
Just Dance 3 360
Skyrim 360
Mario Kart 7
Battlefield 3 360
AC: R 360
Super Mario Land 3D
Skyward Sword

With Dance Central 2 and Kinect Sports 2 at 11 and 12.

MS PR is likely in order. So MW3 > Skyrim > BF3 > AC > JD3 > Sports > DC2.

Somewhat surprised that November wasn't bigger than December given all the drops.

 

[FtsH]

isn't it time for Sony to jump start PS4 now? like what MS did for XBox360?

 

[Kusagari]

JD 360 is down the list, Microsoft usually lists the games in order on their PR when they mention the top 10.

Yeah, I was just listing them randomly. I didn't mean to imply I was doing it in any order.

 

[A Black Falcon]

Huh... very low hardware sales, I wonder what happened? I definitely want to see what the 3DS sold though.

I think one of the reasons Twilight Princess did so well was the fact that it was a launch game for the wii. The Wii was selling so well during launch, and many who purchased also purchased a copy of Twilight Princess since there weren't a lot of games released at the time.

TP sold a million on the Gamecube too in the US, it didn't just sell on Wii.

In that case Microsofts 46% market share claim makes no sense.

46% not including handhelds I assume.

 

[RukusProvider]

isn't it time for Sony to jump start PS4 now? like what MS did for XBox360?

With what...????

 

[The_lascar]

Top 10 individual CONSOLE SKU should look like:

1. Just Dance 3 (Wii)
2. CoD: MW3 (360)
3. Skyrim (360)
4. CoD: MW3 (PS3)
5. BF3 (360)
6. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360)
7. Just Dance 3 (360)
8. Kinect Sports: Season 2 (360)
9. Dance Central 2 (360)
10: Zelda (Wii)

I'm assuming the MS PR title boasting is in order of sales. If we know where MW3 PS3 placed, we should have it perfect.

Mario Kart 7 ?

Edit: Oh. Console.

 

[Gadfly]

They ignored the two 3DS games in that PR.

ah ok. But to be honest so did I (not ignore, but not interested in how handlheld games fare).

 

[jman2050]

Somewhat surprised that November wasn't bigger than December given all the drops.

Maybe that's the 3DS's doing? Actually I think that may be from much of the November sales being heavily discounted.

 

[Saiyar]

Most likely mean for 360/PS3/Wii only.
I would think at lease.

MS PR never included handhelds.

I was taking that into account.

 

[Kusagari]

Top 10 individual CONSOLE SKU should look like:

1. Just Dance 3 (Wii)
2. CoD: MW3 (360)
3. Skyrim (360)
4. CoD: MW3 (PS3)
5. BF3 (360)
6. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360)
7. Just Dance 3 (360)
8. Kinect Sports: Season 2 (360)
9. Dance Central 2 (360)
10: Zelda (Wii)

I'm assuming the MS PR title boasting is in order of sales. If we know where MW3 PS3 placed, we should have it perfect.

NPD stated that the only game that would make it seperately is Skyward Sword so it has to be above the Kinect games.

 

[bigtroyjon]

Top 10 individual CONSOLE SKU should look like:

1. Just Dance 3 (Wii)
2. CoD: MW3 (360)
3. Skyrim (360)
4. CoD: MW3 (PS3)
5. BF3 (360)
6. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360)
7. Just Dance 3 (360)
8. Kinect Sports: Season 2 (360)
9. Dance Central 2 (360)
10: Zelda (Wii)

I'm assuming the MS PR title boasting is in order of sales. If we know where MW3 PS3 placed, we should have it perfect.

Zelda is 10th including the handheld games(Anita would go by the entire market top 10 not just home console like MS does), so I would move that to 8th and then move KS2 and DC2 each down a spot. Otherwise it looks like a good list.

 

[GillianSeed79]

Seven of the top 10 selling games for the entire year were released between October and November it looks like. No wonder publishers try to jam all their big titles between October and November.

 

[user_nat]

Top 10 individual CONSOLE SKU should look like:

1. Just Dance 3 (Wii)
2. CoD: MW3 (360)
3. Skyrim (360)
4. CoD: MW3 (PS3)
5. BF3 (360)
6. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360)
7. Just Dance 3 (360)
8. Kinect Sports: Season 2 (360)
9. Dance Central 2 (360)
10: Zelda (Wii)

I'm assuming the MS PR title boasting is in order of sales. If we know where MW3 PS3 placed, we should have it perfect.

Zelda would be higher. They were saying it would make the overall top 10, so it would place above Kinect Sports and Dance Central at least (who only make the top 10 without handhelds).


And beaten..

 

[Metalmurphy]

"Full year retail sales down 8% year over year."

wow. Not as bad as I thought it was gonna be tbh.

 

[RukusProvider]

Zelda is 10th including the handheld games(Anita would go by the entire market top 10 not just home console like MS does), so I would move that to 8th and then move KS2 and DC2 each down a spot. Otherwise it looks like a good list.

Good point. I fixed the list with Zelda 8 instead of 10.

Top 10 individual CONSOLE SKU should look like:

1. Just Dance 3 (Wii)
2. CoD: MW3 (360)
3. Skyrim (360)
4. CoD: MW3 (PS3)
5. BF3 (360)
6. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360)
7. Just Dance 3 (360)
8: Zelda (Wii)
9. Kinect Sports: Season 2 (360)
10. Dance Central 2 (360)