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[Y2Kev]

I don't get this. Sony's initially low production and distribution rate was said to be a result of all this fancy, high end tech. What's the excuse with Wii?

No idea. Certainly not 4 million.

 

[jj984jj]

DS is just the DOMINANT system for the holidays and so many people are disappointed...?

 

[joeposh]

Wait... so does this mean the PSP is relevant again?

(or is she just going down swingin'?)

PSP always does unusually well during the holidays. Good sales at many retailers, plus a lack of DS supply probably helped. Parents also know the Sony brand from the last few gens... and tend to act off of that. The numbers in February and January should be especially telling in that regard.

 

[capslock]

I don't get this. Sony's initially low production and distribution rate was said to be a result of all this fancy, high end tech. What's the excuse with Wii?

Simultaneous launch in 3 territories?

 

[dili]

If someone who has access to the Portable Ops numbers could please post them I'd apreciate it.

 

[Twix]

omg the people at sony must be dancing on top of their offices right now..1.4M PS2 and nearly 1M PSP ? WoW..also the PS3 numbers are not bad..are they ?

 

[lollerskates]

Xbox 360 solid if not spectacular.

Who lit a fire under PSP?

they had a stealth marketing campaign for psp, remember the youtube videoes, etc

and for awhile there, they were posting all those threads daily on gaming boards "I just bougt my 9 and 10 year old nephews 3 PSPs!! What games should I get guys?"

they were really workin overtime getting psp perception up

 

[Odysseus]

It looks like wii really was way undershipped... Pre NPD estimates were way off. I originally predicted 900k, but recent buzz had me thinking they had topped 1 million.

remember what i said about leprechauns, dude

analysts were caught drinking the kool-aid

 

[Christopher]

I don't get this. Sony's initially low production and distribution rate was said to be a result of all this fancy, high end tech. What's the excuse with Wii?

There is none.

 

[Saoh]

for better viewing

Difference between Wii and PS3: a mere 113,500 units.
Difference between DS and PSP: 646,800 units

I don't get this. Sony's initially low production and distribution rate was said to be a result of all this fancy, high end tech. What's the excuse with Wii?

there's none. my guess is that they recalled/halted most/some of the units because of the wrist strap problems. i guess they didnt have back up shipments.

btw, i guess this means that they missed their 4M target. i dont think Europe could get them to that mark.

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

Wow. Zelda combined sold over a million units in December. Craziness. Almost 500K for NSMB too, what's that bring its LTD total in North America?

Nice Xbox 360 sales.

Yeah, I'm really happy for Zelda. It is really a fantastic game and the sales in Japan are really disappointing. But in USA, Zelda is smashing the world and mark my words: it will sell in USA more then Ocarina of Time.

 

[Mrbob]

I'm still shocked how low the Wii numbers are. Seems like its success has been overstated if it only sold 604K in December.

The PS3 and Wii are supply constrained. Wait for January.

Combine Wii and CG Zeldas though...

Well Nov and December Gears outsold Zelda in USA. Even if you combine the GCN number.

 

[DECK'ARD]

Eh, unless I missed something didn't Nintendo always say it would be a million by end of the year. Then retracted that statement, which implied supply problems.

But they've managed to achieve it anyway by the look of those figures.

Where were people expecting them to have magically manufactured another million from?

 

[Kusagari]

EVERYBODY WITH THE "OUCH @ PS3" :

According to the un-updated numbers, they sold only 100k less than the Wii.

PS3 is about 5000x more instock than Wii which nobody can still find anywhere. Well pretty much everyone has spotted a PS3 at one point or another by now.

 

[CowGirl]

I don't get this. Sony's initially low production and distribution rate was said to be a result of all this fancy, high end tech. What's the excuse with Wii?

Worldwide launch.

 

[thorns]

what was the best december xbox had? I think this is better than that. and with no pricedrop.

 

[Kiriku]

I was just about to ask for Guitar Hero II numbers, seems like I don't have to. Impressive GH2 sales, and I'm guessing it will probably keep selling for a while as well, just like GH1 did.

But if that's all the games sold with a guitar controller, I wonder how many games they sold without one? Also, would be interesting to see sales for the first game during December.

 

[Branduil]

So what's the deal with Sony claiming they shipped a million units? Even counting Canada and Mexico, there would have to be at least 200,000 units just sitting on store shelves if they're not lying about what "shipped" means.

 

[Y2Kev]

Um...

so Odysseus wins? WTF is THAT?

So what's the deal with Sony claiming they shipped a million units? Even counting Canada and Mexico, there would have to be at least 200,000 units just sitting on store shelves if they're not lying about what "shipped" means.

Tracking period perhaps.

 

[Leonsito]

I don't get this. Sony's initially low production and distribution rate was said to be a result of all this fancy, high end tech. What's the excuse with Wii?

Europe?

 

[Haunted]

Sony tears taste yummy!

fixed.

 

[suaveric]

Nintendo let everyone know this was coming a month ago. They took the part out of their press release saying they'd have well over a millions Wii on store shelves by the end of the year. 10% is not "well over". They're off by almost 50% of what Reggie had promised to NA by the first week of January. How much did having to replace those straps hurt Nintendo?

Having to open up a million boxes to replace one little thing = Nintendo's missed chance.

 

[Mojovonio]

Please don't start this again. The goal was ALWAYS shipped. We don't know sell-through WW right now. Keep it to US sales!

right, sorry.

 

[speculawyer]

The PS2 just won't die . . . it beat the xbox 360 AGAIN!

 

[Krowley]

I don't get this. Sony's initially low production and distribution rate was said to be a result of all this fancy, high end tech. What's the excuse with Wii?

Worldwide launch...

If i'm not mistaken, i think japan got more wii's than NA during december.. at least that's my memory.

 

[Wollan]

Do we have numbers on Resistance?

 

[Haunted]

Um...

so Odysseus wins? WTF is THAT?

dude, no one cares. It's just Odysseus.

 

[Striek]

Please don't start this again. The goal was ALWAYS shipped. We don't know sell-through WW right now. Keep it to US sales!

Are US sales now above Xbox LTD (same timeframe)?

Where were people expecting them to have magically manufactured another million from?

4M WW. ~1M JPN, ~1.2M NA, 350k at EU launch and then a huge dropoff in the software charts would indicate they shipped next to nothing afterwards.... means they undershipped by a LOT. Proportionately probably as much as Sony.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I'm still shocked how low the Wii numbers are. Seems like its success has been overstated if it only sold 604K in December.



Well Nov and December Gears outsold Zelda in USA. Even if you combine the GCN number.

Well, yeah. But I thought he meant just this month. My bad.

I'm floored at the Wii number. I predicted 1.2m

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

I don't get this. Sony's initially low production and distribution rate was said to be a result of all this fancy, high end tech. What's the excuse with Wii?

I couldn't hazard a guess, but I'm not buying the cop out excuse of supply constraint. It is essentially old hardware so it shouldn't be that hard to manufacture. The PS3 and Wii simply didn't sell as well as expected, end of story.

 

[MindCollizion]

I guessed PS3 sales correctly!

 

[KeithFranklin]

So
GCN first 2 months > 1.2M
Wii first 2 months > 1.1M

 

[WickedLaharl]

 

[bunkum]

Crumbs I tell ya :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[PantherLotus]

360 LTD: 4.53 mill
Wii LTD: 1.08 mill
PS3 LTD: .69 mill

 

[Haunted]

DS is just the DOMINANT system for the holidays and so many people are disappointed...?

I don't see anyone disappointed at handheld sales in general and DS sales in particular.

Everybody's whining about the Wii and PS3 being way below what the companies and analysts told us beforehand though.

 

[Odysseus]

I couldn't hazard a guess, but I'm not buying the cop out excuse of supply constraint. It is essentially old hardware so it shouldn't be that hard to manufacture. The PS3 and Wii simply didn't sell as well as expected, end of story.

maybe the wrist-strap really did kill them

 

[mood]

so did the 360 finally overtake xbox? If it did, wow. $400.

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

Eh, unless I missed something didn't Nintendo always say it would be a million by end of the year. Then retracted that statement, which implied supply problems.

But they've managed to achieve it anyway by the look of those figures.

Where were people expecting them to have magically manufactured another million from?

In fact the problem is not Nintendo: is an analyst named Patcher. Is it possible to make an estimation of 1.3 millions with a mistake of 600k ? I don't really understand that.

Great, Great sales for Yoshi's Island II and New Super Mario Bros.

 

[JB1981]

er, isn't he saying that the Wii won't outsell the 360...which is what happened?

Although in fairness, sonycowboy's post title, and the fact that the Wii "1.1 million" column was so close to the 360's "1.1 million" made me think for a second they sold the same amount in December. Had to look closer to see what happened

EXACT same thing happened to me. I realized just now that it sold only in the 600k range. Not good.

 

[SnakeswithLasers]

I couldn't hazard a guess, but I'm not buying the cop out excuse of supply constraint. It is essentially old hardware so it shouldn't be that hard to manufacture. The PS3 and Wii simply didn't sell as well as expected, end of story.

Lol, controller shortage. Sure, the system is easy to manufacture, but NOBODY could find controllers anywhere. Gyroscopes am hard!

 

[Funky Papa]

I guess that by January all consoles should have lots of units waiting on the shelves. Next month is going to be a bloodbath, I can see it.

 

[tHoMNZ]

looking at the charts, didn't zelda sell over 1 million (GC and Wii combined) ? that puts it at above Gears of War on the All Format charts.

you should compare nextgen games (not saying the wii version is nextgen)








.. i kid i kid

 

[KeithFranklin]

Worldwide launch...

If i'm not mistaken, i think japan got more wii's than NA during december.. at least that's my memory.

Nintendo probably didnt want to spend the extra $ to ship them via air.

 

[LJ11]

So what's the deal with Sony claiming they shipped a million units? Even counting Canada and Mexico, there would have to be at least 200,000 units just sitting on store shelves if they're not lying about what "shipped" means.

Sony did say they ship about 180k a week. What was the cut off for December NPD, was it the 28th?

 

[Kifimbo]

How much did having to replace those straps hurt Nintendo?

I don't know, but I think there's also a problem with the nunchuk production. You can't find one.

 

[sprsk]

Crumbs I tell ya :lol :lol :lol :lol

So are these the recounts or what.

Sonycowboy sucks at this.

 

[CorwinB]

I couldn't hazard a guess, but I'm not buying the cop out excuse of supply constraint. It is essentially old hardware so it shouldn't be th at h ard to manufacture.

At some point, HW being old or new doesn't matter much. There are production bottlenecks that have absolutely nothing to do with technology. Could be plastic, could be manufacturing space... Look at the JP shortage of DS carts a couple months ago (before Pokemans were shown).

 

[The Innocent X]

In fact the problem is not Nintendo: is an analyst named Patcher. Is it possible to make an estimation of 1.3 millions with a mistake of 600k ? I don't really understand that.

Great, Great sales for Yoshi's Island II and New Super Mario Bros.

He was wrong for a year about 360, always overestimating.

 

[Odysseus]

In fact the problem is not Nintendo: is an analyst named Patcher. Is it possible to make an estimation of 1.3 millions with a mistake of 600k ? I don't really understand that.

Great, Great sales for Yoshi's Island II and New Super Mario Bros.

pachter wasn't the only guy caught sipping the kool-aid

he wasn't even the first one