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NPD Sales Results for June 2007
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Jocchan said:
I thought about that but Moore left the company and I couldn't think of any other MS executive that would have been as recognizable. I actually made the gif before the Bell thread so I didn't use him. =P
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
So what did The Darkness X360 sell?
Agent Icebeezy
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AlphaSnake said:
well
Gekkonidae
Member
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Agent Icebeezy said:
I didn't say HOW it sold. I said WHAT did it sell.
Edit: Hahaha. Thanks.
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
Gekkonidae said:
I can't look at that guys post history, but he seems to be joking.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I wonder what are the sales for the Phoenix Wright/Ace Attorney Series so far.
What are the sales in June and what are the LTDs?
PM me if you can't post 'em.
What are the sales in June and what are the LTDs?
PM me if you can't post 'em.
LanceStern
Banned
Jammy said:
From Official NPD
April: 352k
June: It was jjust below Commmand and Conquer on the Revenue chart. Making it between 135k-110k or so.
E-phonk said:
No way will 360 sales be lower in Oct than in Sept. Traditionally Oct has been lower, but not this year. October will be the first full month of Halo 3 + GTA4 launch. It will be bigger than whatever September brings.
I also expect MS will use September's hardware numbers as a barometer for a price drop. If Halo 3 increases hardware to their satisfaction in September, don't expect a price drop this year. It would be stupid, since they can let the games and the holidays boost their sales, and then next spring, just as they start dying down, a price drop puts them right back up. Plus it will depend on what Sony does too. A second price drop?
MS knows they need to win the holiday season, but if they can do well enough and distance themselves from Sony WITHOUT a price drop I don't think the Wii overtaking the 360 is really a threat to them. They know what a price drop can do eventually to the casual market, but they will milk this price as much as possible to get profitable.
My estimation of how much RE4 Wii Edition has sold uptil this day:
Japan:
Should be at around 100k. Was at 93k two weeks ago, but count in last week and the two days of this week, and we should have it at 100k.
100k
North America:
We know it sold shy of 150k in the US in July. Since Hardware in Canada is around 12% of what it is in the US, when it comes to the Wii, we can estimate and say that RE4 sold 18k in Canada in June. That's 165k for NA in June counting 10 days of that NPD month. RE4 has been out for 16 days in July NPD already. But here we have to make a wild estimate. Let's say that the game has sold 50k thus far during July NPD in the US. Add Canada (6k) and we get 56k. That's brings us to a total of 221k uptil this day in North America.
221k
Europe:
Again, wild predictions here. Lots of Wii games in Europe have the same attach ratio as they have in the US. The only difference is that the Wii has sold around 30% less in Europe than in North America. If RE4 has sold around the same, percentage wise, in Europe as in NA, it should be around 155k. So total, 155k.
155k
Others:
Australia/New Zealand and the Internet. Hard to say. The Australian market is around the same as Canada, but the Wii isn't as popular down there as in NA. So I estimate around 30k for RE4 down there. Internet sales are pretty much impossible to estimate, but if we look at the big picture they don't really matter since the Internet market isn't that big. But let's say it has sold 10k on Internet. So total 40k.
40k
Worldwide:
516k.
My estimations could be far off, but I think it's safe to say that RE4 Wii Edtion has already broken the 420k barrier.
Japan:
Should be at around 100k. Was at 93k two weeks ago, but count in last week and the two days of this week, and we should have it at 100k.
100k
North America:
We know it sold shy of 150k in the US in July. Since Hardware in Canada is around 12% of what it is in the US, when it comes to the Wii, we can estimate and say that RE4 sold 18k in Canada in June. That's 165k for NA in June counting 10 days of that NPD month. RE4 has been out for 16 days in July NPD already. But here we have to make a wild estimate. Let's say that the game has sold 50k thus far during July NPD in the US. Add Canada (6k) and we get 56k. That's brings us to a total of 221k uptil this day in North America.
221k
Europe:
Again, wild predictions here. Lots of Wii games in Europe have the same attach ratio as they have in the US. The only difference is that the Wii has sold around 30% less in Europe than in North America. If RE4 has sold around the same, percentage wise, in Europe as in NA, it should be around 155k. So total, 155k.
155k
Others:
Australia/New Zealand and the Internet. Hard to say. The Australian market is around the same as Canada, but the Wii isn't as popular down there as in NA. So I estimate around 30k for RE4 down there. Internet sales are pretty much impossible to estimate, but if we look at the big picture they don't really matter since the Internet market isn't that big. But let's say it has sold 10k on Internet. So total 40k.
40k
Worldwide:
516k.
My estimations could be far off, but I think it's safe to say that RE4 Wii Edtion has already broken the 420k barrier.
LanceStern said:
You mean May, right? I've seen the June numbers.
From what I can tell (estimated May figures)...
U.S. ~575,000
Japan ~450,000
Super Paper Mario is a million seller already, and it's only been out in two regions for a couple months. Hopefully it will eventually push two million, what with strong U.S. sales, a European release, and an eventual Player's Choice price.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Frillen said:
Capcom better be thrilled, they undershot their Gyakuten Saiban 4 sales expectations also.
Here is hoping that RE4 wii means more games, because so far it didn't mean anything for the DS except for more GS/AA/PW.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Reilly said:
THROUGH JULY 7TH
This whole talk about depth from the "hardcores" is starting to bug me, it's not like Halo is goddamn Chess. Final Fantasy has the strategic depth of Tic Tac Toe, for example.
Also, I think "waggle" has enormous potential, and I'm not even talking about the "obvious" 1:1 controls. The Wiimote has a much better way to judge the players intention than "press/no press" or "press/no press/ long press", no to talk about interesting concept such as the cursor in SMG. I would really like to see what some developers can think of with this controller in mind, so I'm really happy the Wii is showing this success and attracting third party attention.
And, on topic of sales:
PSP is great, I think Sony can really mark that one a success. True, it's not exactly winning, but it's the first time Nintendo is not 90% dominating the handheld market.
Also, I think "waggle" has enormous potential, and I'm not even talking about the "obvious" 1:1 controls. The Wiimote has a much better way to judge the players intention than "press/no press" or "press/no press/ long press", no to talk about interesting concept such as the cursor in SMG. I would really like to see what some developers can think of with this controller in mind, so I'm really happy the Wii is showing this success and attracting third party attention.
And, on topic of sales:
PSP is great, I think Sony can really mark that one a success. True, it's not exactly winning, but it's the first time Nintendo is not 90% dominating the handheld market.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
dude said:
But the problem is sales.
It used to be that the PSP had amazing sales, especially 3rd party sales. Now you can't even use that argument anymore against the DS because the DS 3rd party sales have been increasing proportionally to the fanbase while the PSP sales have been in decline.
Very shocking considering it is the second highest current gen console in terms of LTD sales.
dude said:
As many people have said already, PSP hardware sales are great, yet its software sales are floundering. That has to be really bad to see from a developer's point of view, and it's no wonder PSP's most orignal and exclusive titles are coming from first parties while the others are usually ports or multi-platform ones. And this "market share" thing has to stop. I don't think Nintendo could care less that their market share isn't 99.9% anymore. They're selling more handhelds now than they ever have in their history, and they're making a bucketload off of GBA and all those DS million-sellers.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
To match the Wii's million-ish a month for September, X360 would have to get something crazy big like 600K NA, 300K EU, 100K Japan+other for the month. Halo 2 did push the original Xbox to over 700K in the US alone for one month, it's true... however, it was also a November, and the hardware cost $150.JonathanEx said:
Surely there will be an increase of some type. DS Lites were in short supply worldwide for most of last year, but they still managed to sell at least 4 million worldwide in December alone.mr_bishiuk said:
Is there precedent for this? It's usually been the cheap GBA, DS, GCN type that have seen particularly big holiday boosts. Whether that's due to price making for a cheap gift or that they're Nintendo systems is I suppose up to interpretation.mr_bishiuk said:
I'm not saying Sony should celebrate the PSP sales or something, just that it's gotta be enough for them to enter the next handheld gen, learning from past mistakes (who am I kidding... it's Sony :<) and maybe recover a little. I maybe the closest in the bias spectrum to "Nintendo Fanboy", but competition is always good, when Sony pushed Nintendo to the last spot, Nintendo had to innovate and earn their place all over again...
speculawyer
Member
~142KAlphaSnake said:
A few factors to consider here though. Not all Halo fans have picked up a 360 yet. There may be a spike of sales when Halo 3 hits for that reaons. Also, there may be a rush from a price cut. Far from certain, but if that happens the spike you describe could happen (not in Japan, though).JoshuaJSlone said:
JoshuaJSlone said:
Just a reference point if you Look at Xbox Sales Pre halo for November 480,000 Units was about the norm for November. Halo 2s launch Month spurred November 2004 to 700,000 Units.
Halo 2 was worth about a 220,000 unit boost. Interestingly enough sales Data shows Halo 2s launch caused december to sell less Hardware then prior years due to a larger november sales
About Wii's stockpilling.. Nintendo stated in their financial result that they would sell 14 million of Wii's from march/07-march/08...
And we all know they're being conservative... But by going with that number, and ~1 million a month ATM, would leave 2 millions for holidays... And like they did with DS last year.. They will probably ship everything they have, and have almost no stock for january... That would leave at least 500k plus for the Wii..
So i think in a conservative scenario, Nintendo should have 4.5 millions (~1 million a month + 2 million from stockpilling + 0.5 million from leaving no stock for january) Wiis for November and December. I think they will surpass that.
And we all know they're being conservative... But by going with that number, and ~1 million a month ATM, would leave 2 millions for holidays... And like they did with DS last year.. They will probably ship everything they have, and have almost no stock for january... That would leave at least 500k plus for the Wii..
So i think in a conservative scenario, Nintendo should have 4.5 millions (~1 million a month + 2 million from stockpilling + 0.5 million from leaving no stock for january) Wiis for November and December. I think they will surpass that.
the thing that people are referring to with regards to whether or not Halo3 will move many units is the fact that the software lineup so far has been very conducive to the sorts of gamers who would buy Halo3 day one or week one. It has hit that target market so precisely that many who would buy Halo3 have already bought in, in a much higher percentage than would normally be the case if Halo 3 was the first huge game in that demographic after a drought. But that hasnt been the case. Its been consistent releases of equally hardcore games, and especially in europe there have been plenty of marked down unit sales and bundles, and in the Us Gears of War picked up many of the Halo fans. I think it might hit 400k, but expecting 700k again might be a bit too much.
GhaleonEB said:
There's going to be a bit of a spike, but considering the XBox has been dead since 2005 and the 360 is clearly the console for FPS fans, I think more of those people than you think already have a 360.
There's also people who didn't like Halo 2 (or at least not enough to buy a $400 360 to play it) out there, or who aren't going to join the next gen for lifestyle change reasons who may skip it.
I think you need to distinguish also between the people who were diehards fans of Halo 1 (who were drawn to a great single player mode and split-screen local deatchmatch) and diehard fans of Halo 2 (paid online deathmatch through XBox Live).
speculawyer
Member
No6 said:
I don't think Overlord tanked . . . it just didn't make it up into the Top 20.