Nvidia driver have been bad lately or it’s just me?

calistan

Member
I don't get crashes, but what's this Nvidia Container thing, and why is it constantly using up more CPU than anything else? The computer is basically idling, but there's some tiny Nvidia junk doing absolutely nothing while eating my CPU.

I've uninstalled the app and removed all Nvidia stuff bar the control panel and driver. This is a recent phenomenon for me.

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rodrigolfp

Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I don't get crashes, but what's this Nvidia Container thing, and why is it constantly using up more CPU than anything else? The computer is basically idling, but there's some tiny Nvidia junk doing absolutely nothing while eating my CPU.

I've uninstalled the app and removed all Nvidia stuff bar the control panel and driver. This is a recent phenomenon for me.

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Do you have "recording" enabled?
 

Mortisfacio

Member
I'm having a problem only with certain games. Overall a better experience on new drivers, but some games like WoW don't seem to work well with the latest drivers for me.

I've tested by rolling back to 566.36 and WoW runs great again, but anything 572.16 or later if I alt + tab out of WoW, the game will hang. Won't totally crash, but will freeze for 1-2 minutes then all assets reload and my resolution changes (in game). Only fix so far has been to roll back to an older driver. Came across that via this reddit post, which worked for me, but isn't an ideal "fix".

 
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Magic Carpet

Gold Member
The driver updates don't always play nice with each other when you have global settings enabled.
Recently during the Neogaf Timespy Ranking Thread, I had a little issue.

Some games turn off Vsync when you enable Framegen and it causes tearing. I don't know why some games have tearing and some don't but it's a pain.
Nvidia control panel has an option to enable global Vsync which forces a game to vsync even if framegen is on. It makes the games look so much better I leave it on.
BUT it killed my timespy results. So I went to try and turn it off but the controll panel would not let me because I had updated the driver with the setting enabled.
To turn off the vsync I had to roll back to the previous driver, turn off the global vsync then reinstall new driver.
A bit of a pain in the behind.
 

keefged4

Member
On latest drivers here and no issues. Last update I had issues with Pirate Yakuza not showing an image with DLSS, but getting rid of the Nvidia app resolved that.
 

calistan

Member
Do you have "recording" enabled?
No, I don't even have the Nvidia app installed.

edit: I think I might have fixed it by getting rid of the Nvidia Frameview component. It was constantly spawning and stopping a service, so I set it to 'disabled' then restarted and dumped the whole folder it was in. Installing the driver using nvcleanstall didn't help remove that.

Anyway, thanks for setting me on the right path!
 
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dgrdsv

Member
Like most bugs, they show up in certain circumstances. It depends on the game, OS, settings, etc.
So not all people will have the same issues.
If the drivers are "bad" and "affecting lots" of users then what you've said would contradict these claims don't you think?
The R570 drivers are okay. There are more issues than usual on the 50 series but that's a new launch with new features and changes to the SMs so that's to be expected.
 

winjer

Gold Member
If the drivers are "bad" and "affecting lots" of users then what you've said would contradict these claims don't you think?
The R570 drivers are okay. There are more issues than usual on the 50 series but that's a new launch with new features and changes to the SMs so that's to be expected.

You are not "all users".
 

calistan

Member
From my limited experience (now fixed, hurrah!) the Nvidia drivers come with a ton of bloatware that can conflict with various other things.

There doesn't seem to be an easy way to install just the basic driver and remove everything else that might be causing conflicts. I had no idea that Frameview was causing my problem, or even that I had it installed, but it was constantly eating between 5-18% of my CPU and generating endless errors. May it rest in peace.
 

JoduanER2

Member
I'm having lots of crashes since like 2 months ago with latests drivers. RTX 4070 super, 7800x3d, windows 11 24H2, im using displayport gysnc. The crashes happen specially with frame generation enable in marvel rivals for example.
 

winjer

Gold Member
Okay.
So there are no issues for "all users" and possibly even no issues for "lots" of them?
This whole clickbait started from one Reddit thread in case you're wondering.

There are no numbers of percentage for these issues.
People just complained about it, nvidia checked it and is now trying to solve it.

And no, this is not clickbait. Nvidia has tech people in several forums gathering info. For example ManuelG on the Guru3d forums.
And users do talk to him, then he does an early evaluation and if he finds it's real, he sends it to the driver team for a fix.
 

rodrigolfp

Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I'm having lots of crashes since like 2 months ago with latests drivers. RTX 4070 super, 7800x3d, windows 11 24H2, im using displayport gysnc. The crashes happen specially with frame generation enable in marvel rivals
Overclock?
 
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Luipadre

Gold Member
Its a joke nowadays. I installed the GAME READY AC shadows driver and it locked my 5070tis clockspeed to 780mhz and the game ran like shit. Had to reroll to previous driver.
 

Schnauzer

Member
Nvidia drivers have been terrible. An update basically broke my computer. I have a 4090 and what would happen is when my monitors turned off. There was no way to get any of them back-on. The computer was on and running; however, nothing was being displayed. It took me a while to figure it out; however, I was able to rollback to an old driver which fixed my issues. Luckily the latest drivers also fixed the issue.
 

Luipadre

Gold Member
Nvidia drivers have been terrible. An update basically broke my computer. I have a 4090 and what would happen is when my monitors turned off. There was no way to get any of them back-on. The computer was on and running; however, nothing was being displayed. It took me a while to figure it out; however, I was able to rollback to an old driver which fixed my issues. Luckily the latest drivers also fixed the issue.
Im getting random black screen flashes in windows on my 5070ti. Not during ingame just while browsing the internet. Havent had it for 3 days i thought it fixed itself somehow, but i just got 2 in a row within 30 minutes... It just a 1 sec black screen flash on monitor but still annoying... Thankfully it doesnt do it during games.
 
I've had Spiderman 2 freeze and then reboot since release. Reading the dump files, it's always nvidia drivers. I have freshly installed them and even Windows, but no difference.
That being said, it is only this game that crashes my PC (outside of POE 2, but that's POE 2 devs being shit and not driver related), so I don't think it is the drivers at fault (at least solely), as many people have the same issue on different hardware configurations. It seems to be either DLSS or Frame Gen related.

I have started to randomly have my screen turn black for 2-3 seconds and back on again for the past month or so too.

It could be Nvidia, Windows, or typical shit releases of games by incompetent devs or all 3. The past few months have been rough and made me paranoid it's a hardware issue even though a lot of people have the same issues and it's isolated to 1 game. I hate it.
 

JoduanER2

Member
Nvidia drivers have been terrible. An update basically broke my computer. I have a 4090 and what would happen is when my monitors turned off. There was no way to get any of them back-on. The computer was on and running; however, nothing was being displayed. It took me a while to figure it out; however, I was able to rollback to an old driver which fixed my issues. Luckily the latest drivers also fixed the issue.
Same thing in my case, but the new didnt fixed it. This only happen with frame generation in some games though
 
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dgrdsv

Member
And no, this is not clickbait. Nvidia has tech people in several forums gathering info. For example ManuelG on the Guru3d forums.
This is absolutely clickbait. Nvidia is always gathering feedback, it's a constant program which is running literally for dozens of years now, how is this suddenly an indication of "lots of users having issues"?
As I've said this whole source is a Reddit post which basically regurgitates the same issues which we've already known since 50 series launch.
For the 50 series there are more issues than usual but it's not surprising given that it's a new launch (and before you say anything about new Radeons I've just had a friend returning one because of the issues he's ran into; so that's no different).
For the 40 series and everything else which is supported by R570 there is nothing out of the ordinary wrt driver issues. Hence the clickbait.

I've played through on R570 drivers (so about since early Feb):
  • Assassin's Creed Mirage
  • Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden
  • Mark of the Ninja: Remastered
  • The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
  • Singularity
  • Prey (2006)
  • Soldier of Fortune 2
  • Soldier of Fortune
  • Tomb Raider I-III Remastered
  • Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
  • Immortals Fenyx Rising
  • and playing Dying Light 1 now w/o any issues whatsoever
Not one of these has crashed or had any driver issue.
IJ started BSODing on my HDMI connected TV when enabling FG in HDR mode after I've finished it. That's the only issue I've seen and I'm not sure that it's a driver issue either as it's started after the last game update.
 
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winjer

Gold Member
This is absolutely clickbait. Nvidia is always gathering feedback, it's a constant program which is running literally for dozens of years now, how is this suddenly an indication of "lots of users having issues"?
As I've said this whole source is a Reddit post which basically regurgitates the same issues which we've already known since 50 series launch.
For the 50 series there are more issues than usual but it's not surprising given that it's a new launch (and before you say anything about new Radeons I've just had a friend returning one because of the issues he's ran into; so that's no different).
For the 40 series and everything else which is supported by R570 there is nothing out of the ordinary wrt driver issues.

You should tell that to nvidia, because they have been releasing several hotfixes in the last month to fix their driver issues.
But according to you, they are just wasting time.
 

dgrdsv

Member
You should tell that to nvidia, because they have been releasing several hotfixes in the last month to fix their driver issues.
Again, they've been releasing hotfixes for dozens of years. And at each new gen launch there are hotfixes for this new gen in particular - just like now.
How is this any indication of whatever that clickbait is claiming? You do remember that it's about 40 series right?
 

winjer

Gold Member
Again, they've been releasing hotfixes for dozens of years. And at each new gen launch there are hotfixes for this new gen in particular - just like now.
How is this any indication of whatever that clickbait is claiming? You do remember that it's about 40 series right?

Nvidia doesn't release hotfix drivers at such a rate.
There are issues and many users are being affected. Just because you are not, doesn't mean its not real.
The reality is that these issues are real and Nvidia is working on fixing them.
 

SHA

Member
I like using laptops for that specific reason, it's like getting the best of both worlds, a high end machine and oem at the same time.
 
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JoduanER2

Member
This is absolutely clickbait. Nvidia is always gathering feedback, it's a constant program which is running literally for dozens of years now, how is this suddenly an indication of "lots of users having issues"?
As I've said this whole source is a Reddit post which basically regurgitates the same issues which we've already known since 50 series launch.
For the 50 series there are more issues than usual but it's not surprising given that it's a new launch (and before you say anything about new Radeons I've just had a friend returning one because of the issues he's ran into; so that's no different).
For the 40 series and everything else which is supported by R570 there is nothing out of the ordinary wrt driver issues. Hence the clickbait.

I've played through on R570 drivers (so about since early Feb):
  • Assassin's Creed Mirage
  • Banishers: Ghosts of New Eden
  • Mark of the Ninja: Remastered
  • The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
  • Singularity
  • Prey (2006)
  • Soldier of Fortune 2
  • Soldier of Fortune
  • Tomb Raider I-III Remastered
  • Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
  • Immortals Fenyx Rising
  • and playing Dying Light 1 now w/o any issues whatsoever
Not one of these has crashed or had any driver issue.
IJ started BSODing on my HDMI connected TV when enabling FG in HDR mode after I've finished it. That's the only issue I've seen and I'm not sure that it's a driver issue either as it's started after the last game update.
So your investigation to conclude that this is clickbait is saying that nvidia is always gathering feedback and the issues are nothing our of the ordinary (lie)? How stupid is that? How do you know is not a high number?
 

dgrdsv

Member
Nvidia doesn't release hotfix drivers at such a rate.
There are issues and many users are being affected. Just because you are not, doesn't mean its not real.
The reality is that these issues are real and Nvidia is working on fixing them.
As they always do. So what are the news?

So your investigation to conclude that this is clickbait is saying that nvidia is always gathering feedback and the issues are nothing our of the ordinary (lie)? How stupid is that? How do you know is not a high number?
How do you know that it is? From a Reddit post?
 
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