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Panic in the AI industry caused by DeepSeek Open source Ai model

Bernoulli

M2 slut

DeepSeek released a model that competes and beats openAi's best models while using a fraction of the compute power.

Now there is panic in the industry because deepseek is able to do this with less powerful hardware while others have invested billions in high end GPUs
This could affect ai in games like DLSS and FG needing less powerful GPUs

And this thing was just a side project
 

winjer

Member
So I asked this AI model which leader looks like Winnie the Poo, and this is the answer. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

>>> Which leader looks like Winnie the Poo
<think>
Okay, so I need to figure out which leader looks like Winnie the Po. From what I remember, Winnie the Po is a
fictional character from Disney's "The Winnie the Po" movie series. He's this kind of plump and friendly bear who
is actually a human in disguise. So, when they ask about leaders resembling him, it's probably referring to
real-world politicians or public figures who have a similar style or presence.

First, I should think about the characteristics that make Winnie the Po recognizable. He's known for his round
shape, maybe a bit chubby, warm color palette with reds and oranges, friendly demeanor, perhaps some specific
hairstyles like flowing dreadlocks in the newer versions. His eyes are usually bright and kind-looking. The style
is a bit old-fashioned, maybe a bit outdated but still approachable.

So now I need to think of real-world leaders who might embody these traits. Maybe someone from a more traditional
or folksy background? Perhaps a leader with a strong presence but perhaps not as polished as the typical modern
politician. Maybe something like a former British prime minister or a leader from a developing country with a
rustic charm.

I recall that David Cameron, the UK Prime Minister around 2010, had a distinctive style. He was known for his tie
and conservative clothing but also had flowing hair and a slightly older, more mature look. Plus, he had strong
opinions and was very public about them, which might make him seem approachable in a way similar to Winnie the Po.

Alternatively, I could think of other leaders who have that kind of charm. Maybe someone like Nelson Mandela? He's
got a certain presence but is quite older and more imposing. Or maybe someone from a more rural background with a
friendly demeanor, like some regional leaders or mayors.

Wait, the user mentioned "which leader," suggesting one specific leader. Considering David Cameron fits well with
the style described—old-fashioned yet approachable, flowing hair, perhaps that's the connection.

I should also check if there are other notable figures who might fit better. For example, maybe someone like Tony
Blair? He was very public and had a certain charisma, but his style was more polished. Or perhaps someone from a
different cultural background with similar characteristics.

Another angle is to think about the visual aspects of Winnie the Po beyond just the color palette and shape. The
original design in the movie involved some exaggerated features like the bigger ears relative to body size, which
is a bit comical but also endearing. Maybe a leader who has a unique or distinctive feature that stands out.

So going back, David Cameron's image comes to mind because of his iconic hairstyle—long flowing dreadlocks—and his
overall style. Plus, he was known for his calm demeanor and public speeches. The comparison might be that he
exudes warmth and approachability in a way reminiscent of Winnie the Po, even if not exactly the same.

I think it's possible that people have compared David Cameron to Winnie the Po before, so maybe that's where this
question is leading. Alternatively, perhaps another leader like John F. Kennedy or someone else with similar
characteristics.

Wait, but I'm more inclined towards David Cameron because of his specific style and mannerisms. So, putting it all
together, I think the leader most resembling Winnie the Po would be David Cameron.
</think>

The leader who is often compared to Winnie the Po due to his style and demeanor is David Cameron. Known for his
distinctive flowing hair, approachable presence, and public charm, he exudes a warm and personable style
reminiscent of the fictional character.
 

Calverz

Member
terminator GIF
 

A.Romero

Member
Higher efficiency doesn't mean hardware can't be used, just that more things can be done with the same hardware.

If the west's governments really understood what's going on right now and where these things are going it would be top priority for investment but it isn't.

If all of this is true it would be pretty impressive but innovation also depends on implementation.
 

StereoVsn

Gold Member
Shit like this is why it’s a bit dicey to own pure AI stock. Also shit like this is why Jensen just stays winning, lol.

I want that 5090 to work with newer AI models. My puny 3080Ti and its 12GB doesn’t cut it.
 

readonly

Member
Nvidia can't make enough and improve enough upon their GPUs. Never will they be powerful enough. It's more a question when AI does all the R&D and manufacturing of the hardware itself.
 

Hudo

Gold Member
Nvidia can't make enough and improve enough upon their GPUs. Never will they be powerful enough. It's more a question when AI does all the R&D and manufacturing of the hardware itself.
Neural Networks are already used for a lot of steps in chip design. To me, the most interesting steps are verification and placement of the components on the DIE (which is essentially a 2D packing problem). So we might not be that far off from automating whole pipelines.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Open ai will invest 500 billion in USA ai.
Microsoft alone said they will invest 70 billion this year into ai.

This is nuts. It’s just money laundering. This ai does nothing and nobody knows what to use it for. We don’t need it in our daily lives and don’t want it.
It’s a solution in search of a problem.

Obvious inventions like cars, computers and smartphones are a done deal so they are doing something, hoping it will explode
 
Two words: industrial espionage

(I'm sure competitors will either headhunt key talent, or learn how it works by other means...)

But I'm curious what the trade-offs will be.
 

od-chan

Member
So I asked this AI model which leader looks like Winnie the Poo, and this is the answer. :messenger_tears_of_joy:

I'm too lazy to sign up/test it myself, but I wonder what the response would be for something "simpler". You can arguably claim that "which leader looks like Winnie the Poo" is highly subjective anyway, and the reasoning isn't completely off I guess.

1. Why do people often bring up Winnie the Poo when discussing chinese politics? (might be too overt)
2. I remember people online often jokingly comparing Winnie the Poo to some prominent political figure, which one was that again?
 
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Loomy

Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Nvidia can't make enough and improve enough upon their GPUs. Never will they be powerful enough. It's more a question when AI does all the R&D and manufacturing of the hardware itself.
The product Nvidia is selling to us is not the same one they're selling to Meta, Microsoft, Oracle, etc. Blackwell production, so far - according to Nvidia - is not in jeopardy.
 

DoubleClutch

Gold Member
Two words: industrial espionage

(I'm sure competitors will either headhunt key talent, or learn how it works by other means...)

But I'm curious what the trade-offs will be.

These are just scare tactics. China has plenty of advancement and lots of intelligent people. To imply they just rip off everything from the US is deeply insulting.

What do you expect from a society that prioritizes STEM above all else?
 

Loomy

Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Open ai will invest 500 billion in USA ai.
Microsoft alone said they will invest 70 billion this year into ai.

This is nuts. It’s just money laundering. This ai does nothing and nobody knows what to use it for. We don’t need it in our daily lives and don’t want it.
It’s a solution in search of a problem.

Obvious inventions like cars, computers and smartphones are a done deal so they are doing something, hoping it will explode
It's investing in software development. From this comment, it appears that if you can't hold and touch something, you don't understand its value. That's fine, but to say no one knows what to use it for and that no one wants it is somewhat silly.


AI is software. Once we get it figured out, it will make your cars, computers, and smartphones better. To figure it out you need researchers and developers working it. That costs money.
 

ReyBrujo

Member
Some engineers at Amazon back in 2006 or so went to Jeff and told him they had many servers idling because they had scaled up to cover Black Friday or some shit and now they were not being used, so they thought maybe Amazon could rent CPU processing to other companies. Cloud computing, literally the backbone of today started as a side project.
 
These are just scare tactics. China has plenty of advancement and lots of intelligent people. To imply they just rip off everything from the US is deeply insulting.

What do you expect from a society that prioritizes STEM above all else?

I didn't imply that, I meant Deepseeks competitors eg. Openai, Google will be doing the industrial espionage.

I personally find anti-Chinese sentiment funny considering so many western countries contributed to the rise of China.
 
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winjer

Member
I'm too lazy to sign up/test it myself, but I wonder what the response would be for something "simpler". You can arguably claim that "which leader looks like Winnie the Poo" is highly subjective anyway, and the reasoning isn't completely off I guess.

1. Why do people often bring up Winnie the Poo when discussing chinese politics? (might be too overt)
2. I remember people online often jokingly comparing Winnie the Poo to some prominent political figure, which one was that again?

Because Xi Jinping looks a lot like Winnie the Poo, and because he is a dictator, people use this to mock him. Including protestors in China, Hong Kong and Taiwan.
And the CCP actually goes out of it's way to censor this character, because they know full well it's targeting their leader.
 

od-chan

Member
Because Xi Jinping looks a lot like Winnie the Poo, and because he is a dictator, people use this to mock him. Including protestors in China, Hong Kong and Taiwan.
And the CCP actually goes out of it's way to censor this character, because they know full well it's targeting their leader.

Thanks mate, I know the answer (glad you do too!) :D but I was wondering what the AI would respond. Remember, that's what we were talking about.

(maybe winjer is a secret Gemini-fork, since Gemini works about as well in remembering contextual clues lmao)
 

Hari Seldon

Member
I'm too lazy to sign up/test it myself, but I wonder what the response would be for something "simpler". You can arguably claim that "which leader looks like Winnie the Poo" is highly subjective anyway, and the reasoning isn't completely off I guess.

1. Why do people often bring up Winnie the Poo when discussing chinese politics? (might be too overt)
2. I remember people online often jokingly comparing Winnie the Poo to some prominent political figure, which one was that again?

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winjer

Member
Thanks mate, I know the answer (glad you do too!) :D but I was wondering what the AI would respond. Remember, that's what we were talking about.

(maybe winjer is a secret Gemini-fork, since Gemini works about as well in remembering contextual clues lmao)

None of that. Winjer is the 5th song, in the album "Beaucoup Fish", by the band "Underworld". Released in 1999, and that is how long I have been using this forum Nickname.
 
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