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Politico: Rand Paul: 'Ill do whatever it takes' to stop Bolton from being secretary
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If lousiana's Senate seat goes blue, that's puts Dems at 49, Paul puts them St 50, and only one more senator to avoid a pence tiebreak
2 more senator if lousiana's goes R
2 more senator if lousiana's goes R
Unknown Soldier
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Rand Paul made peace with Trump for all of a day? Two days?
More than ever, it's a good thing Rand Paul is where he is. He hates the job of Speaker too but now he's staying on to try and save the Republic. I know there are many times when I've disliked Rand Paul and what he stands for.
"If we are to survive, a new balance must be found. In normal times, evil would be fought by good. But in times like these, well, it should be fought by another kind of evil."
- The Chronicles of Riddick
More than ever, it's a good thing Rand Paul is where he is. He hates the job of Speaker too but now he's staying on to try and save the Republic. I know there are many times when I've disliked Rand Paul and what he stands for.
"If we are to survive, a new balance must be found. In normal times, evil would be fought by good. But in times like these, well, it should be fought by another kind of evil."
- The Chronicles of Riddick
Really interested how quickly (or if) shitbirds like feinstein start singing a different tune now that we have Trump in charge of the NSA. All that domestic spying shit isn't so funny now, is it?
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Has he not pissed many of them off already?
He's not Ted Cruz.
VendettaRed07
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I stand with rand
Chezzymann
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From what i've seen on reddit there's a lot of libertarian trump supporters that liked him cause of his stance on syria and russia and they're gonna be really pissed of bolton gets in
bet there would be an /r/the_donald civil war if that happened
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He doesn't give a fuck. They begged him to be Speaker. He made a bunch of demands and they fulfilled all of them just to get him. He knows they don't have a leg to stand on, because he can step down anytime and then the House Republicans are fucked, literally no one in the caucus wants the job.
Hexa
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Pssssst. Wrong Paul. That's Paul Ryan. Not Rand Paul.
Vigilant Walrus
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Of all those republicans on that stage, Kasich and Rand seemed like the least worst options.
Rand Paul is a senator. You're thinking of Paul Ryan.
PlayALLtheGames
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You don't? I think you know Rand. I think deep down you know.
Lindsey Graham would not be opposed to any kind of war hawk in the cabinet, though.
Hexa
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He has already indicated that he would support both Guiliani and Bolton.
http://ijr.com/2016/11/737090-linds...uliani-and-john-bolton-as-secretary-of-state/
GuitarAtomik
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I'm not a fan of all of Paul's political beliefs, but the one thing I'll give him is he's consistent about them for better or worse. More than I can say for a lot of other politicians.
The first thing I thought when Bolton's name was mentioned for this was the exact same thing Paul laid out.
The first thing I thought when Bolton's name was mentioned for this was the exact same thing Paul laid out.
KuwabaraTheMan
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He just got re-elected. 2022 is a long, long way off.
Dubbedinenglish
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PhoncipleBone
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Where in KY are you? Just curious. SOKY here.
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Ah fuck you're right. All these Pauls seem the same to me lol.
Louisville.
That seems pretty accurate.
Hopefully that lets him stick to his principles.
These fucking kids really do think they're watching pro wrestling, don't they?
KO Traveling Hobo
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I'm not sure why anyone - Paul included - is surprised that all of these Republican standbys are being picked up instead of anti-establishment outsiders. Wasn't it announced that Pence would be in charge of assembling the transition team?
Dark Cloud
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I wonder how many Republicans may end up siding with Democrats more in Congress. I know the Democrats have lost Congress, but this is something NOBODY ever talked about and I've thought about it to myself. Just because they're Republicans doesn't mean they have to agree to everything.
Tbh surely the Senate Dems can find just 4 or 5 Republicans who will vote with them against all of the really crazy Trump stuff... Right?!
PhoncipleBone
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Bowling Green. And I did vote against Paul this election, but I am happy to see him at least stand up Trump on something.
Four_Chamber
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Ben Sasse hates Trump. Jeff Flake is the same. Clearly, Lindsay Graham thinks he's insane. Rand Paul won't vote for him on any crazy foreign policy interventions. Throw in moderates like Murkowski and Susan Collins and you have a reasonable # of GOP senators with spines that won't roll over for Trump at least on foreign policy. Heck, McCain has already come out against the Russia crap the Trump campaign has pulled.
I think Democrats need to work with this group to reign in the foreign policy that is going to be pushed by Trump's cabinet.
I think Democrats need to work with this group to reign in the foreign policy that is going to be pushed by Trump's cabinet.
VendettaRed07
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Not a single establishment Republican has been punished for going against Trump or lashing out at him so far.
Even paul ryan called some of his comments racist. I don't believe that the establishment GOP will hunt down any Republicans who go against him.
At least, that's what I'll tell myself to feel better.
Frozenprince
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Rand is fucking insane but at least he won't dissolve NATO and the UN.
Bolton is legitimately mentally unwell.
Bolton is legitimately mentally unwell.
I have little optimism for the moral standards of Republicans in congress after the last 8 years.
Coriolanus
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While there is no doubt that Lindsey deeply, viscerally hates Big Poppa Don and what he represents, you can be sure that he'd fall in line with almost everything the dude would put forward.
captainnapalm
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Have always respected the Pauls for their anti-war stance. That alone makes them a lot better than many of the politicians in Washington.
I can't see Bolton happening. It would just make Trump look too hypocritical. Would be a disastrous move for him.
I can't see Bolton happening. It would just make Trump look too hypocritical. Would be a disastrous move for him.
Astaleview
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Absolutely.
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Well, at least not all is lost. Who would have thought a Trump presidency would open the door to some Repubs wanting to work on Dems on blocking Trump fucking the country up?
Stumpokapow
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If Bolton became Sec. State I would give the US somewhere around a 25-33% chance of leaving the United Nations within a 4 year timespan.
The Albatross
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Plot twist: Trump had someone read a description of Team of Rivals to him and thought it a splendid idea.
GoutPatrol
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If that didn't happen on any grand scale during the Bush years, how do you think it will happen under Trump? The same reasoning will occur. "...but at least I got lower taxes!"
Bolton is one of those people that is a clear violation of very core tenants that Trump actually didn't deviate from on the campaign trail, but obscure enough to his core supporters that it will go over without so much as a flinch.
You can't decry the Iraq War, scream about the poor decision-making that belied the Bush administration surrounding it, beat your opponents over the head for their error in judgement, and then hire fucking John Bolton. Who less then a year ago was still vehemently defending the decision to overthrow Saddam.
You can't decry the Iraq War, scream about the poor decision-making that belied the Bush administration surrounding it, beat your opponents over the head for their error in judgement, and then hire fucking John Bolton. Who less then a year ago was still vehemently defending the decision to overthrow Saddam.
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