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Rebel Moon sucks according to ign
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Hardensoul
Member
More of an Ice Pirates guy myself
But BBtS has its charm. The flying space uterus in particular
I loved both movies! Had fond memories of those 80s sci-fi.
Toons
Member
The "machine" had no love for Snyder and his movies before the force awakens even came out lmao. Man of steel was 2013.
Snyder just ain't great at movies, and if Disney had let him make his star wars thing it would've still probably sucked too
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Snyder isn't bad when he's adapting other people's work into film. 300, Watchmen, Dawn of the Dead etc are decent. Not the greatest films ever made, but they're fun movies.
It's his original content that really blows. He can't write a decent screenplay and translate it to film.
Suckerpunch is shite. Army of the Dead is incoherent nonsense and possibly one of the worst films I've ever seen.
I haven't seen Rebel Moon yet, but based on the reviews and the fact that it's a Snyder original, I'm not sure if I really want to waste my time.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
How long has Disney owned Marvel again?
Thought so. War. War never changes. Trash is all relative, you see.
Toons
Member
Right, not a single Disney movie has gotten negative reviews since 2011. Totally.
Disney definitely had to sic their "machine" on Zack Snyder, who was such a threat that he *checks notes* has released films to panned reviews as early as 2011, took the second biggest cultural IP in the world and ran it into the ground so bad that we are legitimately questioning whether a superman film will make money.
mmmkay dude lol. Trash is indeed relative, and so are narratives used to justify that trash.
Toons
Member
I agree. Hes not terrible when you write a story for him and just have him make the pretty pictures. His visuals are pretty incredible, if a little self indulgent(i rolled my eyes at the 4 minute sequence of aquaman walking towards water in slow mo)
In fact, I think he'd be a perfect director for something like spawn, an IP far more known for its visual presentation than anything story related.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Let me try and explain in more simple terms. You can swap Snyder's name on any of the Marvel shit since Black Panther's overrated tripe, and nobody would know the wiser. Hell, it even has the cheese CGI and action straight out of DC at the time.
Toons
Member
Nah, not enough americsn flags and crucifixes in any of the movies for that.
Well... captain marvel had an American flag in it i guess.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
FunkMiller
Member
Look at this completely original, and not at all ripped off character in Zack Snyder’s new sci-fi epic. Its Commissar… sorry, I mean Admiral Cain Noble!
Other completely original things Zack invented for this movie are a fascist empire called the Imperium, run from earth by a corpse king, and a character named Balasarius.
….can this cunt ever come up with anything himself?
Other completely original things Zack invented for this movie are a fascist empire called the Imperium, run from earth by a corpse king, and a character named Balasarius.
….can this cunt ever come up with anything himself?
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
The amount of flack he is getting is just insane to see. It's like he personally touched some of you in your peepee zone lmao.
Grow the fuck up it's just movies, and spend less time on stuff you hate and more on stuff you like (Marvel bullshit for most).
Also, MoS and BvS are top 10 highest grossing DC movies so I wouldn't call that anything close to bad, let alone put the downfall of DC on his chest. Warner did this to themselves
As someone said: before 2013, Superman only had one true hit film. Wonder Woman was an unknown character to the GA and Aquaman was considered a literal joke. Then DCEU averaged 815m a film when Snyder was still there.
How is it doing recently?
Grow the fuck up it's just movies, and spend less time on stuff you hate and more on stuff you like (Marvel bullshit for most).
Also, MoS and BvS are top 10 highest grossing DC movies so I wouldn't call that anything close to bad, let alone put the downfall of DC on his chest. Warner did this to themselves
As someone said: before 2013, Superman only had one true hit film. Wonder Woman was an unknown character to the GA and Aquaman was considered a literal joke. Then DCEU averaged 815m a film when Snyder was still there.
How is it doing recently?
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Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
I'm all aboard the hype train! Ok not really but mildly curious will watch
Bulletzen72
Member
Just watched it. Look it's the Seven Samurai/Magnificent 7. I didn't hate it, but it wasn't great either. Part one is basically the recruitment of the "heroes" with bits and bobs added on. The big battle will be part 2 in April. It's a Snyder movie- pretty, lots of slow mo and bad dialogue.
What is interesting though is that it is clearly a hard R movie with all the gory bits cut out by Netflix (hence directors cut talk later on), and it was awkwardly done. The universe is in no way original with a mixture of Warhammer 40k and Star Wars with a smidge of Harry Potter, but it is a brutal and violent setting, so the jump cuts avoiding the violence is jarring. Meh! I've seen worse movies. It's a Snyder film!
What is interesting though is that it is clearly a hard R movie with all the gory bits cut out by Netflix (hence directors cut talk later on), and it was awkwardly done. The universe is in no way original with a mixture of Warhammer 40k and Star Wars with a smidge of Harry Potter, but it is a brutal and violent setting, so the jump cuts avoiding the violence is jarring. Meh! I've seen worse movies. It's a Snyder film!
It’s awkwardly cut down to PG-13 huh. Seems senseless for a streaming release. Will wait for the DC.
Toytown Assassin
Member
I'm watching it ATM. The main problem is tiny slight boss girl beating people up. That and the constant use of fucking slow motion and blurovision. Someone needs to take Snyder off to one side and give the bugger a good hard slap. Story is fine. I mean you cant go wrong with 7 samurai but he sure is trying to.
Ironbunny
Member
30 mins in and I have to force myself to watch forward. So far the big bad enemy is a caricature of a sleazy school bully. Spaceship design does not ooze menace and neather does anything else. Lots of slowmotion and overtly Snydered color palette. So far "plot" still makes more sense then the new Star Wars movies ever did.
Ironbunny
Member
Yea whats up with the blur lenses used. In few scenes its all smeared scene.
FunkMiller
Member
Film makers only get flak when they make movies that deserve that flak. Is everyone supposed to just be nice to Zack Snyder? Does the same apply to Paul WS Anderson? Michael Bay? Wes Anderson? James Mangold?
You like his movies, that’s fine. But other people are allowed to be critical of what he does. You act like Snyder is the only director that gets flak for putting out poor movies, but this section of GAF has loads of threads about bad movies and the people who have made them. A lot of them recently have (deservedly) been about Marvel.
Stop being so sensitive over a guy you don’t know and have no links to personally. It’s fine for you to like him, and equally fine for others to not.
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Army of the Dead is one of the worst major releases I've ever seen, but overall his filmography is pretty good. And his superhero movies are all good (the director's cuts). Certainly not above criticism, but things have gotten weird when discussing him and his films in recent times. Seething hatred all over. Meanwhile the MCU and DCEU are putting out stinker after stinker.
Toytown Assassin
Member
A few scenes are totally blurred but most of the rest are heavily blurred except for one face etc. It's exctremely irritating.
Ironbunny
Member
Yea hes movies are definetly not as bad as they are made out to be in chatter. He certainly has an eye for good visuals but it seems that there should be someobe there to put on the brakes on some of hes visual antics. On the other hand just like with Justice League they are putting brakes on the wrong things.
Ps. Why is it that in all of hes movies some scenes look somewhat cheap? This Rebel Moon has it too and it isnt cheap movie.
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KrakenIPA
Member
He got so much blowback for speaking about his own version of the movie, it was wild. I feel like most directors have a vision of their own movie that gets sidelined by a mandatory rating. Most of my favorite directors were able to release their own cut of a feature film, and those movies were waaaay better, and became the classics that we know today!
SJRB
Gold Member
DCEU certainly didn't get any better after they kicked him out. On the contrary actually, they haven't had a single good movie since.. I don't even know.
Flash, Aquaman 2, Wonder Woman 2, Shazam, Blue Beetle. Just an endless series of trash. Not saying Snyder could've prevented all this, but he's often named as THE reason the DCEU is in shambles which is just preposterous. Hate him or love him (god knows he made some questionable choices), but at least he actually had a vision.
KrakenIPA
Member
I bet it's so hard to always be ahead of the pack as far as visuals and yet be held behind on other things.
Hollywood seems like a tug of war yo-yo trick on a balance beam. It shouldn't be so hard to visualize a storyboard onto film.
SJRB
Gold Member
- Batman v Superman theatrical cut comes out, almost everyone hates it
- Snyder pushes for a director's cut, it gets released and is pretty much universally considered a much better movie
- Justice League theatrical cut comes out, thermonuclear bombs the DCEU
- Snyder pushes for a director's cut, by some miracle it gets released and it not only redeems Justice League, it's one of the best DC movies ever made
There's a pattern here.
Werewolf Jones
Member
Yeah I'm not watching this until the DC comes out.
KrakenIPA
Member
I have got to see this movie then.Sucker Punch Extended Cut is pretty good too
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
My problem with you is that there are fair criticisms and stupid criticisms. You and many other here (hi
ManaByte
) fall into the second category with some of the most stupid take I've ever seen on a filmmaker. And no other director is getting shits on like Snyder, but it's ok just because he adapted COMICS BOOK and not the one you wanted. He made his interpretation and for some stupid people it's sacred "OH MY GOD MY BOY SCOUT SUPERMAN WHERE IS IT???".I mean I remember
ManaByte
saying ZSJL is the same as JL 2017, but longer. WTF is this stupid take?Welp Evilore answered before I was able to so here you go. You are acting like he made the worst movies ever, and maybe you think that way but you need to understand it's not everyone's opinion.
ZSJL is one of the best DC movie for example. 300 inspired so many other movies/scenes and is still awesome to watch. Watchmen is *chef's kiss*, MoS one of the best super hero origin story and BvS UE is one of my favorite movie of all time. Yes.
But of course you know better, don't you? Better than the great Kevin Conroy who applauds his films, as do Grant Morrison, Jay Oliva, Marv Wolfman, Dan Jurgen and many other comic book authors who ALL praise Snyder. But you know better than those famous author right? You are so much better than them amaright? Like Snyder, they don't know anything now, right?
See, that's my problem with you and other. You think you are so much better than other when in the end the amount of toxicity is both sad and unbelievable., wasting so much time on stuff you don't like.
Also
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
you can put the laugh emoji as much as you want, it wont make you smarter.
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near
Gold Member
An R-rated sci-fi with this budget is very fucking hard to sell to studios. I think it's a fair compromise.
Based on the interviews I've read, the R-rated cut is going to be almost a different film, far more violent, and sexier. Some scenes might even have completely different dialogue.
It will be interesting to see how different they'll actually be.
near
Gold Member
It is weird. The more hate I see he's films get, the more I tend to appreciate them.
Can't wait to watch this tonight!He's not even very fitting for this discourse, someone like Ridley Scott would be far more appropriate for this sort of discussion. He's filmography is disgustingly polarizing.
Halo is Back
Member
He has always gave me the impression of "style over substance." 300 was the only movie I enjoyed that he directed.
Hardensoul
Member
The blurred vision was tolerable in Rebel Moon, glad he toned that shit down from Army of the Dead! Blurred vision in that Army was almost unwatchable for me.
FunkMiller
Member
My problem with you is that there are fair criticisms and stupid criticisms. You and many other here (hi
I mean I remember
Welp Evilore answered before I was able to so here you go. You are acting like he made the worst movies ever, and maybe you think that way but you need to understand it's not everyone's opinion.
ZSJL is one of the best DC movie for example. 300 inspired so many other movies/scenes and is still awesome to watch. Watchmen is *chef's kiss*, MoS one of the best super hero origin story and BvS UE is one of my favorite movie of all time. Yes.
But of course you know better, don't you? Better than the great Kevin Conroy who applauds his films, as do Grant Morrison, Jay Oliva, Marv Wolfman, Dan Jurgen and many other comic book authors who ALL praise Snyder. But you know better than those famous author right? You are so much better than them amaright? Like Snyder, they don't know anything now, right?
See, that's my problem with you and other. You think you are so much better than other when in the end the amount of toxicity is both sad and unbelievable., wasting so much time on stuff you don't like.
Also
Just chill, dude. I can’t imagine ever getting this worked up about a film maker I like. If you dragged Chris Nolan hard I wouldn’t get so worked up about it.
FunkMiller
Member
That‘s it. He has a strong visual style, but he’s not competent at story or character. Always best when directing things other people have written, and has someone watching over him.
DKehoe
Member
His adaptation of Watchmen is interesting for that reason. He’s playing it very close to the source material and it’s clear he has a lot of respect for it. In a lot of ways he does a great job adapting the story to film, something a lot of people before him had tried and failed to do. But he can’t resist creating a visual spectacle and so thematically the film is at odds (in some respects) to the the comic. In the comic guys like Nite Owl and Rorschach aren’t meant to be cool but Snyder can’t help but frame them that way.
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FunkMiller
Member
Unfortunately, as you say, the main issue with Watchmen is that he didn’t really understand Moore’s desire to represent violence as an abhorrent and unpleasant thing. Snyder glorifies precisely the things Moore was trying to rail against and deconstruct. It looks right… but it gets everything about the nuances of the story wrong.
That’s rather Snyder’s Achilles heel. He struggles to understand what a story is trying to say. His only concern are visuals. One of the reasons Batman v Superman is so poor, is because he liked the look of The Dark Knight Returns, but completely failed to grasp its meaning.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
Just saw it. The slowmos were way too much and there is definitely a lot of bad acting.
Also that black guy general is always casted in the same type of role lol.
Also that black guy general is always casted in the same type of role lol.
Ammogeddon
Member
I’m about half way through, it’s a bit meh but I’ll see it through. Some of the cgi is a bit basic, almost jarring in places.
I see you ripping off elements of Warhammer 40k too Snyder (as well as many other IPs). Imperium my arse. It annoys me to think that some might end up thinking 40K ripped off this.
I see you ripping off elements of Warhammer 40k too Snyder (as well as many other IPs). Imperium my arse. It annoys me to think that some might end up thinking 40K ripped off this.
Sleepwalker
Member
Pretty much, I find the hatred pretty fucking weird. He's just a guy making movies, not satan. Just skip the work if it's not appealing to you.
I watched it last night, it was ok. The violence being cut down is pretty weird. The decision of having 2 parts 4 months apart is also weird, just release the full thing, people are watching at home anyway.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I actually had to look the stuff on Google to see if it was real. Unbelievable. They're actually ripping off Warhammer 40,000.Look at this completely original, and not at all ripped off character in Zack Snyder’s new sci-fi epic. Its Commissar… sorry, I mean AdmiralCainNoble!
Other completely original things Zack invented for this movie are a fascist empire called the Imperium, run from earth by a corpse king, and a character named Balasarius.
….can this cunt ever come up with anything himself?
