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[.Pennywise]

We're in the final run to Hogwarts Legacy's final release. If you don't know the monstrous controversy around this game at this point. you must be living under a rock.

Regarding this, I just want to discuss what people will expect from this game around NeoGAF discussion of it. Because there will be a beautiful OT to talk Hogawarts Legacy, but that thread will 100% sure be derailed and turned into political discussion about J.K. Rowling, trans people topics, politics, etc.

Since some of us (I'm sure we are at least SOME!) want to actually discuss the game first and foremost rather than all this controversy surronding it, sprouting all over, I wonder what will be done respecting this?

To add to it, Resetera just stated that they will not be doing an OT for the game and any discussion about it will be absolutely banned. That means people over there will be jumping back here, making the discussion even bigger and more convoluted.
We've already had the Cyberpunk 2077 example in the past, and that was a lot less controversial than this one, and we know how that went.

So, taking into account all these variables:

• People coming from the other site to discuss the game
• People talking about that other site regarding its ban
• Politics being (at least sometimes lightly) banned from NeoGAF
• Letting people discuss what they want to discuss instead of censuring discussion left and right
• Where do we draw the line between what's discussing the actual game and what's discussing stuff related to the game
• Having an OT that will surely be derailed if mods don't take a stance on it

What would you prefer to be done about it?

 

[AV]

I promise you I'll be able to count the number of people here who want to yell about JK Rowling being bad on one hand.

It's going to be 99% posts from other places which will derail the conversation.

 

[KungFucius]

Leave things as normal and adjust only if it gets too Reeeetarded.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

Just make two threads it isn't that complicated.

 

[MiguelItUp]

What would you prefer to be done about it?

Honestly, not make a thread about it that draws attention to everything.

Treat it as normal as everything else, continue to ignore Era, etc. Business as usual IMO.

 

[KungFucius]

I promise you I'll be able to count the number of people here who want to yell about JK Rowling being bad on one hand.

It's going to be 99% posts from other places which will derail the conversation.

I sometimes want to yell at people who think her behavior warrants punishing everyone associated with the major IP she developed decades ago.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

I just absolutely detest that we cannot have any conversation around this game without listening to so-called controversary that has literally nothing to do with the game. It's a gaming forum, and this isn't Resetera. I just want to talk about the game instead of sifting through all of this ancillary stuff that's unrelated to the game. Why isn't there a topic in the non-gaming discussion for people who want to talk about JK Rowling and "transphobia" and have those conversations or debates there? Have those important cultural discussion and debates there, to your heart's content. Why is every Hogwarts Legacy thread bogged down by this stuff?

Seriously, is there a thread where we can just discuss *just* the game? And nothing else? The game looks fantastic, and the dev team seems like they've delivered a pretty incredible title. Heaven forbid we talk about that, like every other game.

 

[Dick Jones]

Two threads, one on game only and other on the outside moving shapes. Threadban those who shit up and derail the OT.

 

[The Cockatrice]

but that thread will 100% sure be derailed and turned into political discussion about J.K. Rowling, trans people topics, politics, etc.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

Just make two threads it isn't that complicated.

Why wouldn't the thread that's not about the actual game just be a thread in Off-topic? I don't even think the non-game thread should be in the gaming discussion at all. It's not game related.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I absolutely expect the thread to be made 99% of comments discussing the game. This is a gaming forum, not a woke one.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Just ignore people who don't want to discuss the game, if you don't want to discuss the JKR TERF stuff.

And visa-versa.

Internet is hard.

 

[Topher]

There is no reason the discussion of the game has to incorporate any non-game controversy. Period.

 

[Labadal]

Have the same rules as every other OT.

 

[crunchyBiscuits]

The only heat I see this game attracting on this site would be the differences between the two console platforms, if any such differences exist

 

[.Pennywise]

I promise you I'll be able to count the number of people here who want to yell about JK Rowling being bad on one hand.

It's going to be 99% posts from other places which will derail the conversation.

Honestly, not make a thread about it that draws attention to everything.

Treat it as normal as everything else, continue to ignore Era, etc. Business as usual IMO.

I absolutely expect the thread to be made 99% of comments discussing the game. This is a gaming forum, not a woke one.

Just ignore people who don't want to discuss the game, if you don't want to discuss the JKR TERF stuff.

And visa-versa.

Internet is hard.

Come on, let's no play silly here. Every thread on the game got totally derailed.

And even if you think and play the mature man that just ignores this topic, you'd need to be jumping entire pages in order to avoid these

 

[dorkimoe]

Id prefer people talk about the game and not JK Rowling who has NOTHING to do with the game. I think its different if the gameplay or game itself has some sort of issue, but her opinions and beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with me casting a spell and zapping some mofo

 

[ThatStupidLion]

theres a report button for a reason

 

[Celcius]

Apparently I've been living under a rock. Why is Harry Potter controversial?

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

Let people speak their mind about the game and the situation. More than enough sites are banning people for stupid shit.

 

[KuraiShidosha]

I voted to ban everything not related to the game in the OP. There's no political discussion on here anymore and I feel that's absolutely been for the better. Why change now? You want to cry about this shit you know where to go. Let the people who actually play videogames and want to discuss them have this space free of that garbage. I only feel bad for the mods who will no doubt have their work cut out for them in due time.

 

[tkscz]

The previous thread got derailed heavily to focus on the politics behind transgenerism or whatever you want to call it. But it didn't immediately happen, just towards the point before post in the thread started to slow.

However, I don't see an OT for the game in community would get that far off. They can continue using the previous threads for that reason.

 

[.Pennywise]

Apparently I've been living under a rock. Why is Harry Potter controversial?

I've dispatched a voucher for a free Google search to your email

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Let people speak their mind about the game and the situation. More than enough sites are banning people for stupid shit.

Separate threads and the "stupid shit" has no business being here in the gaming section in the OT thread

 

[GymWolf]

Are we really discussing this?

I think you people are getting worried about nothing.

 

[Thabass]

Make another thread, ban off-topic discussion not related to the game in the OT.

I think it should be discussed, and in great detail. But, the OT is FOR THE GAME, not the the CONTROVERSY. Separate them.

 

[TonyK]

I can't believe this needs a poll. It's a game, what matters here it's the game's quality. I can't understand how J.K.Rowling words can be relevant to the game. This seems an artificial problem nobody I know care of it.

 

[NewJohn]

Make one thread. Ban who wants to derail it by bringing politics or ResetEra into it. JK Rowling is trash. Playing the game doesn't make you trash or automatically a believer on what she says. Lets keep things separated.

 

[SlimySnake]

Apparently I've been living under a rock. Why is Harry Potter controversial?

It's not. JK Rowlings is controversial because she spoke out against trans conversion of kids and other trans rights that come at the expense of female rights.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

i mean, does anyone actually want to talk about the game itself?
i dont think ive seen a single screenshot.

just let the discussion go wherever it goes, unless people start getting nasty with each other.
lame when its same two people taking the discussion super seriously and just replying to each other for pages and pages.

 

[Punished Miku]

I'm expecting mass comedy. We need at least 5 members deputized, tasked with taking screencaps of Resetera and posting them here so we can all laugh. 2 members with photoshop skills will need to report in for memes for a minimum of 3 hours daily for 3 days. After that, memes can trickle out on an as needed basis. Everyone else try to focus on not being totally retarded.

 

[.Pennywise]

Are we really discussing this?

I think you people are getting worried about nothing.

There's literally a contest full of these stuff stickied in the gaming section.

 

[Sybrix]

The game is a game..............

If you're really worried that an OT on a game is going to be something to worry about then you should wake up, wake up and smell the ashes.

 

[Mod of War: Remastered]

I feel our community does a pretty good job staying on course and correcting when veering off for a little bit- for the most part. The OT will be discussing the innocuous game itself and not this manufactured fragility that other threads are for.

 

[spons]

Mod away idiots and let the rest discuss the game.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Come on, let's no play silly here. Every thread on the game got totally derailed.

And even if you think and play the mature man that just ignores this topic, you'd need to be jumping entire pages in order to avoid these

They wouldn't get derailed....

.... if people ignored that shit.

The truth is this forum is full of anti-woke people just ITCHING to bring up these topics, and not the other way around.

 

[Corpsepyre]

It's obvious that people will want to talk about the creator of the universe in SOME form, even if she didn't have any say in the story of the game or what the world is like. But you can't escape the fact that she's a very controversial figure. I'd suggest making two threads.

 

[GymWolf]

There's literally a contest full of these stuff stickied in the gaming section.

And?

It was a contest to win a game, of course many people tried to win.

And even if someone post a meme about harry potter and reee, we laugh and move on.

 

[SJRB]

The OT is about the game, and of course comparisons with the HP universe from both the books and the movies.

If you want to vent about your feelings about JK Rowling or your opinions about trans rights, write a blog or tweet about it.

Zero tolerance for political activism.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Make two threads, one for the culture war and one for game discussion, id rather not have to deal with that bs in the game discussion

 

[Punished Miku]

It's obvious that people will want to talk about the creator of the universe in SOME form, even if she didn't have any say in the story of the game or what the world is like. But you can't escape the fact that she's a very controversial figure. I'd suggest making two threads.

Probably just a review thread and an OT would cover it. Review thread will naturally have some comedy involved.

 

[TransTrender]

Leave shit alone and let moderators moderate if snowflakes start shitting things up.
No politics is already clear here.

 

[Fuz]

Leave things as normal and adjust only if it gets too Reeeetarded.

Probably the best solution.

 

[Imtjnotu]

We're here for games and console waring.

Not because one group of people feels triggered by a writer

 

[Mercador]

i-m-afraid-to-ask.meme

What's the issue regarding this game? I don't expect anything special, it will sell well because of IP but the game will be average at best in my opinion.

 

[Topher]

i-m-afraid-to-ask.meme

What's the issue regarding this game? I don't expect anything special, it will sell well because of IP but the game will be average at best in my opinion.

Best answer.....

It's not. JK Rowlings is controversial because she spoke out against trans conversion of kids and other trans rights that come at the expense of female rights.

 

[Ghost of Caelid]

OT should be about the game, and have a thread dedicated to the discussion, moderate it so people aren't too insulting to those who disagree but don't ban. people for their thoughts.

 

[GymWolf]

i-m-afraid-to-ask.meme

What's the issue regarding this game? I don't expect anything special, it will sell well because of IP but the game will be average at best in my opinion.

Some people are mad because jk doesn't consider a magic wand equal to a chamber of secrets.

 

[BootsLoader]

What kind of thread is this? Of course let it take its own course.

 

[Mercador]

But JK Rowlings isn't making this game, the only link is that she made a series of novels and EA makes a game about that IP. It seems far fetched to link the game to Rowlings opinions, whatever they might be (I don't follow controversies).