ShadyAcshuns
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Show us the detailed numbers, then. We all knew it would sell "millions" on PC, but let's see the specific PS5 numbers.
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Remedy Says There Are Still No Plans for a Physical Version of Alan Wake 2; Explains Why American Nightmare Wasn’t Remastered
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
If You think it's just a piece of plastic then your brain is a piece of meat
near
Member
Don't think there are any, but pre-order metrics were in line with it performing really well at the time if I recall correctly.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Pre-orders don't mean shit. People cancel those all the time.
Salmon Snake
Member
Agreed.
I do get the thing about physical media as I buy LPs but modern physical games just suck ass.
Usually the covers are boring, no booklet and just the mile long walk from couch to console is horrible.
However most of my triple-A PS5 games are physical copies just because of the price difference is just ridiculous.
In Alan Wake 2's situation the price is pretty good so it's a no-brainer for me. I even pre ordered the deluxe edition.
near
Member
Perhaps, but it's no secret that digital sales are significantly on the rise, and a minor example that digital only does not affect the commercial success of AAA games. With very few business incentives to release physical copies, this will become more common, Remedy won't be the first or last to do this.
Ulysses 31
Member
It comes free with new Nvidia cards, EGS though... 
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Their loss. Tons of players around the world still don't have access to good internet, so that's a ton of missed sales right there, and no sales from physical buyers will add up too.
no game is for everybody, Alan Wake is not your cup of tea. The game is, in fact, great. I’ve been playing the Remaster on PS5, just started the first special episode and it’s still fun to play and go through.My hype is all down.
Aw is one of my fav games… or rather was.
I’ve finished it many times on 60 and pc. Now few years have passed and I am playing remaster on ps5.
Dualsense is great, graphics too… but the game is really not.
I mean it’s ok but it’s dragging and you are just running, watching a cutscene and shooting 2 dudes.
The worst of it is controls and camera. It’s so floaty and the camera constantly changes shoulder. It’s so annoying.
But I loved that game and now it’s just ok. That’s a 2nd time this year I refresh older title only to ruin it for myself. Lost planet 1 suffered same fate
Combine that with how bad qb was and how really bad and repetitive control was and I couldn’t be less excited. I still think AW is better than qb and control.
Edit; and he is constantly tired. You can’t sprint for 5 seconds. How. I loved that game so much…
Edit2: I still can’t believe how mid the game is and I finished it like 5 times back then. It’s not bad. Just worse than I remember. American nightmare wasn’t great either but I finished it only two times…
Anyway - their excuses are shit. We all know they are just epic and tencent owned studio and that’s it. They are pushing for epic sells.
near
Member
That is probably the only argument that isn't arbitrary, but I don't think the vocal minority place enough emphasis on this point. Moreover, the counter business perspective is one that targets the majority, it's unfortunate, but that's just how they operate.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
So, fuck 'em? Yikes.
SteelCurtain 59
Member
Aren't like the vast majority of sales digital now? I feel for collectors and people with bad internet but digital is very clearly the future and it's just a matter of time before physical basically doesn't exist on console (like it already more or less doesn't exist on PC anymore)
SteelCurtain 59
Member
How many sales will they gain from people going digital instead of buying used games or renting though (which gives the devs/publishers absolutely nothing)?
tomato shrub
Member
That's why I'm not as hopeful as others about a potential GOTY edition or a limited release, like other digital launched games got down the line. It seems Epic is in control here and they are simply not in the business of making fullfledged console releases?
I want to believe that Remedy wouldn't hesitate to produce a disc release, but Epic is funding their dream project and that's just how it is now.
Ultimately, every rinky-dink indie game can get released on bluray these days, so these kind of excuses fall flat to me.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I hate this. I hate that whenever I am negative, then "the game is not for me".
No. I am a huge Alan Wake fan. Or at least was. it is all about atmosphere in games I like
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Nearly 2 months and radio silence.
If they are good it's surprising they ain't celebrating it.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Personally I am more annoyed by not having a Steam version of the game.
Sleepwalker
Member
Cruel bump.
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Megatron
Member
Never is a strong word, but yeah, this crap has made me wait on it. I will pick it up on a big sale at some point. I’m not going to,support this crap. And Alan Wake was my game of the year that year. if it were physical I’d have put it on my Christmas list, lol.
xrnzaaas
Member
Afaik Alan Wake 1 also struggled to reach 1 million copies.
Anyway there's still a chance after both story DLC's are released.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Lol as if physical will change anything
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Many are physical only and skip EGS.Lol as if physical will change anything
ReBurn
Gold Member
Many are indeed physical only, but apparently not enough to matter for this game.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Many like what? 10%? Physical won't change anything in sales.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Are you saying physical sales are only 10% vs digital
We know this because?
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Yeah 10%, maybe even lower depending on the title. At best it might reach 20%, but again it won't enough to change much for the sales.Are you saying physical sales are only 10% vs digital
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Rocco Schiavone
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S0ULZB0URNE
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So physical sales only reach up to 20% according to you and that 20% isn't significant?
ChuckeRearmed
Member
20% is the best case scenario. Also we are not talking about 2m, 5m or even 10m physical sales. Though I think AW2 sold around 2-3m copies. Post TGA they might get additional sales too - Remedy games have a good wom.So physical sales only reach up to 20% according to you and that 20% isn't significant?
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
So again physical versions only sell 20% and 20% isn't significant?
I say physical games are much higher of a percentage on average but if they were up to 20% that would still be significant.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
No, I don't think so. You should keep in mind that even PS (Nintendo aside) who the highest physical skew is 70-80% digital and PC is 99% digital. Xbox is around 90% at this point too.
Physical sales are big only on Nintendo at this point.
LordCBH
Member
I hate LRG but this would be preferable to having no options at all.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
PC cant be included as they been 99% digital only also you mentioned xbox as example which is a significantly smaller market and we can't keep a large Nintendo market out of this.
Going by just Nintendo and Sony's combined physical numbers the market is still pretty significant.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Yes we can because a lot of modern games are not coming to Nintendo and AW is not there.
It can be included because AW (and most of games) does not sell there.
So physical release won't affect physical sales on PC (because there is none), it won't affect Xbox (because - aside smaller market share - the physical is small on Xbox). So it leaves only Playstation.
The whole discussion is about AW2 sales after all.
Did they announce numbers for PC?
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
The numbers you are using are revenue on a whole that includes all digital titles that aren't released physically and are $10 indie games, DLC and similar titles.
As per release, if something like RE4 sells 5.45 mill in a month and 2.6m are confirmed Digital the remaining isn't 10% which would be physical.
The real number is more 60/40 depending on the game.
But when it comes to revenue digital easily takes the cake with additional budget digital only impulse buys, DLC, Season Passes and a higher sale price for mainstream releases.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Bojji
Member
My mind is blown that so many people don't care about actually owning stuff they bought* with their hard earned money with no ability to trade or sell it. Sony/MS/Nintendo fuck us in the ass and many people love it.
* - more like rental lol.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I'm a physical first guy but this is an easy game to make an exception for. Fantastic title.
Alan Wake
Member
Yes, it took a while. But I would be surprised if AW2 didn't do better than the first game so far.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Remedy is a public company so we should know in early Jan how the game did in Q4.
Jesb
Gold Member
The value for reselling games is very low. And the console makers screw us anyway. Try putting a PS3 disc in PS4 or PS5 and see if you can play it.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Pirate the game and burn it on a Blu-ray then. I presume this is still possible? Haven't done it in 15 years.