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Is this the same as the gamecube release of resident evil?
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Resident Evil 4 remake the best remake ever?
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Mr Reasonable
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I got a bit bored when I got to the island. In that sense, it's very much in keeping with the original. So, yeah. Good work.
MidGenRefresh
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PS4 remaster was a high-resolution patch soled as a boxed copy. I'm talking the REAL remake. Part I.
GymWolf
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So the cheap moneygrab that was made to push the serial, got it.
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Drizzlehell
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Nah. I still think that the original did a lot of things better. A perfect remake should be an improvement in every way, to the point where the original becomes obsolete. And while RE4 remake is extremely good, I'd still be willing to go back to playing the original in a heartbeat, because the remake is missing some of the things that made the original special.
I believe that RE1 came much closer to being a perfect remake because it still retains the same general gameplay style (instead of being a third person shooter reimagining like RE2 and RE3) while improving the experience in every way - from improved graphics and sound to redesigned gameplay and introducing new interesting mechanics to make the experience feel even more fresh.
I believe that RE1 came much closer to being a perfect remake because it still retains the same general gameplay style (instead of being a third person shooter reimagining like RE2 and RE3) while improving the experience in every way - from improved graphics and sound to redesigned gameplay and introducing new interesting mechanics to make the experience feel even more fresh.
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Badlucktroll
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And, lord willing, Silent Hill 2 Remake shall claim this throne and reign supreme
GametimeUK
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I do love RE4 Remake and it joins the conversation of fantastic remakes. I do still think REmake is the best ever. RE2make and Dead Space are also better than RE4make in my opinion too. Then there's games like Metroid Zero Mission and funnily enough I really enjoyed Twin Snakes and Links Awakening.
Drizzlehell
Banned
Tank controls work in a way where (left stick)
X axis = turn and Y axis = move forward/backward. However, the HD remasters of RE1 Remake and RE:0 do have an alternate control scheme that works much like movement controls in Devil May Cry, where your character will immediately go in the direction where you push the stick.
ProgenitorCastle
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Punished Miku
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I thought the demo was pretty bad. The controls, responsiveness, visual clarity, art style, audio all seemed a lot better in the original. As far as RE remakes, I'd put 1 and 2 over this for sure. Probably even 3. At least 3 doesn't have painted yellow arrows and guideposts to tell you where to go because the art design is so muddy. This might be the worst RE remake actually since I will still play the original.
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killatopak
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I just replayed it like minutes ago. It is on the contender despite my numerous nitpicks about it. It’s up there with REmake.
Some of my nitpicks even got resolved once I replayed. Some story bits that I thought wasn’t there actually got in. With the addition of Separate Ways, it sets up RE5 a lot better.
Some of my nitpicks even got resolved once I replayed. Some story bits that I thought wasn’t there actually got in. With the addition of Separate Ways, it sets up RE5 a lot better.
Arsic
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RE2 Remake is still better IMO.
Best remake overall though ? Probably not. Something like even the most recent star ocean 2 remake does so much to improve over the original game to breathe life into it for new audiences and fans of the original.
Don’t get me wrong though ; RE4 Remake is amazing.
Best remake overall though ? Probably not. Something like even the most recent star ocean 2 remake does so much to improve over the original game to breathe life into it for new audiences and fans of the original.
Don’t get me wrong though ; RE4 Remake is amazing.
kvltus lvlzvs
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I played through og re4 2 times in January, so it is still pretty fresh. It is still one of the goats, but the RE4 remake is absolutely amazing. I like it more than the re1 remake.
The tweaks to the pacing are wonderful. The small changes peppered in are amazing. The tweaks to certain characters stories are absolutely phenomenal. I cant say it is better than the original, but I will probably alternate between original and remake in my repeated playthoughs of the game.
One shit thing about the remake is that basically you have to hold the sprint button down 100% of the time or the movement is shit. It is an extremely stupid control choice to have made, but it is what it is.
The tweaks to the pacing are wonderful. The small changes peppered in are amazing. The tweaks to certain characters stories are absolutely phenomenal. I cant say it is better than the original, but I will probably alternate between original and remake in my repeated playthoughs of the game.
One shit thing about the remake is that basically you have to hold the sprint button down 100% of the time or the movement is shit. It is an extremely stupid control choice to have made, but it is what it is.
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Rran
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One nitpick I have with the game that I rarely see anyone else mention is that the economy isn't quite as addictive. Firepower is by far the most important attribute to upgrade now that you can move while reloading, and they even axed the "topping off" mechanic from upgrading Capacity which made for a lot of fun decision-making (running around with empty guns in hopes for getting a free refill at the next merchant was good risk/reward gameplay).
Nah, that's my main issue with RE4make. Perhaps in an effort to make his movements more believable, Leon has quite a bit of "realistic" transitional animation between moves and he feels pretty slippery as a result; several of his actions have a "buffer" period. I don't think this is inherently a bad thing but coupled with the faster and more aggressive enemies, it can lead to some frustrating moments in the game. I think it worked fine in RE2make because of the lower number of baddies.
I set the run button to toggle and never looked back.
UnravelKatharsis
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RE1R is the gold standard.
UnravelKatharsis
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So if you didn't like OG RE4 in the first place you won't think it's the best remake and if you thought OG RE4 was the best game of all time, you will?
I don't think Resident Evil was the best game of all time but I think the remake is easily the best remake so far and I loved RE4.
Does that make my opinion more valid or less?
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It's a hard pass from me dog especially after reading your post.
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Gojiira
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All the people saying Twin Snakes 
Yes redundant gameplay additions that trivialise the gameplay sure is a improvement! Just fucking no, awful remake with bad voice acting, terrible music changes and godawful direction that totally changed the tone and atmosphere of the game. Fucking gross…
Best remake is probably RE1, it has the most positive changes and set the bar going forward. I think I prefer REmake 2 though since it did more overall, and is the basis going forward for Capcom.
Yes redundant gameplay additions that trivialise the gameplay sure is a improvement! Just fucking no, awful remake with bad voice acting, terrible music changes and godawful direction that totally changed the tone and atmosphere of the game. Fucking gross…Best remake is probably RE1, it has the most positive changes and set the bar going forward. I think I prefer REmake 2 though since it did more overall, and is the basis going forward for Capcom.
Chuck Berry
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JimmyRustler
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Yes. Annoying “RE is no more horror since RE4” bitch about the game ever chance they get.So if you didn't like OG RE4 in the first place you won't think it's the best remake and if you thought OG RE4 was the best game of all time, you will?
I don't think Resident Evil was the best game of all time but I think the remake is easily the best remake so far and I loved RE4.
Does that make my opinion more valid or less?
Elysium44
Banned
A lot of people who dislike RE4 Remake the most are the biggest fans of the OG RE4 and most likely to notice the many ways in which the remake is worse. I didn't like RE1 remake but I don't say that is a bad game, I think it's very well done for what it is but it just isn't my thing. Third person survival horror on the other hand very much is my thing, and RE4 remake imo is a bad game in its own right as well as a very bad remake of RE4. The only thing going for it is the graphics are more up to date, although aesthetically I still prefer the original.
Basically, don't try and pigeonhole people as it will often be mistaken.
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Dacvak
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May be a dumb answer, but I really thought the Tony Hawk 1+2 remake was essentially perfect. It managed to recapture everything I loved about the original games while improving almost every single aspect. I feel like it was pretty universally praised for that.
GymWolf
Gold Member
That shit is not a remake, i think someone called it a re-imagination.
It's basically a new game milking the cold corpse of og ff7.
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MiguelItUp
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It's all opinionated. I think the RE4 Remake is definitely great, as is the RE2 Remake. As is the OG RE1 Remake on GC. Different strokes for different folks, but there's a lot of really good ones out there, and it's awesome to see.
The Dead Space remake was great too, I just wish they were able to add even more meat to it.
I'm one of the few that want to see RE1 get the over the shoulder + RE engine treatment. But the OG RE1 Remake is still incredibly impressive. For as old as it is, it still holds up, and that says a LOT.
The Dead Space remake was great too, I just wish they were able to add even more meat to it.
I'm one of the few that want to see RE1 get the over the shoulder + RE engine treatment. But the OG RE1 Remake is still incredibly impressive. For as old as it is, it still holds up, and that says a LOT.
Werewolf Jones
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It's funny though because before the game came out most people believed it'd take the place of REmake... lmao.
GymWolf
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I basically bought a gc for twin snake because mgs1 was my favourite game ever and i still have to recover from that...All the people saying Twin Snakes
Best remake is probably RE1, it has the most positive changes and set the bar going forward. I think I prefer REmake 2 though since it did more overall, and is the basis going forward for Capcom.
JimmyRustler
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It’s one thing to say that you don’t like the game because it has a different style, it’s another to say it’s a worse Remake. The only thing we can debate about in 4 vs. Remake it’s the general style and story. I admit I like the one of the original better as well.
Everything else? Gooby please. Capcom improved upon every single gameplay mechanic, improved evey single level and even expanded stuff. Yes, some stuff was cut but then again, Capcom went back and added this with the DLC.
Coming here and saying the Remake ain’t the better game with a straight face is stupid as hell. It just ain’t. If you like it better because of its style, fine, but that doesn’t make it the better day because the OG does literally nothing better than the Remake.
So please, can we make some sense again here?
MasterDerico
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No because RE4 was almost perfect.
Don't try to remake a symphony, one more or less note and you can ruin a experience.
If u separate to 2 different entities, yes RE4R is a good game!
Don't try to remake a symphony, one more or less note and you can ruin a experience.
If u separate to 2 different entities, yes RE4R is a good game!
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Sleepwalker
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Re 1 remake already needs a remake lol.
4 remake is clear, not playing anything with tank controls in 2023.
4 remake is clear, not playing anything with tank controls in 2023.
Elysium44
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The music and voice acting are weak compared to the original. The (English language) voice acting is some of the worst I've ever heard anywhere, in any form of entertainment media.
The gameplay of the original was balanced perfectly, now Leon slides and stumbles around like a drunk on roller skates. Tedious busywork chores have been added like crafting ammo and doing tasks for the merchant (who is also extremely badly voice acted and has verbal diarrhea, he never shuts up and keeps repeating the same handful of lines which aren't even funny the first time) to get rewards so you can level up the weapons faster. Also Capcom cynically added DLC to enable you to level up quicker with better drop rates, making people with only the base game at a disadvantage.
The OG has charismatic characters, great atmosphere and tight, perfectly balanced gameplay. Remake looks quite good, I give it that credit. It also runs great on my PC. That's the only good thing I can say about it.
The game has rough edges everywhere. Why can't you combine herbs any more? You can no longer just place a herb of one colour onto another to combine them but instead have to 'craft' them by holding down a button? Why when I load the game do I get a progress bar, and then when it has loaded instead of going into the game, it says 'continue' and ANOTHER progress bar before it loads? But if I press A to continue, it lets me? Why this extra step? Also when 'continue' and the A prompt first appear, if you press A 'too fast' it doesn't register. You have to wait one second before it will pay attention to the fact you pressed it.
Oh yeah, another thing: you can no longer control Ashley properly. In the original you could tell her, wait or come with me. She always did exactly what you asked her. Now she still follows you even if you ask her to stay put. She either follows closely or at a slight distance but you can't make her stay put (except in the few places where she can hide in a closet). This is another example of a clear downgrade over the original. You need to have control over her because you are directly responsible for her safety but the game makes it hit and miss. It's funny, her character in remake was praised for being tougher but she's completely useless - she will sit squatting in the middle of enemies and takes damage rather than following me and running away from the enemies.
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GymWolf
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The new version of rebirth has direct control movements.
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Gojiira
Member
Exactly, MGS1 is my fave game of all time hands down, and that remake was dogshit…Awful awful choice and prevented a real remake from surfacing
Kagoshima_Luke
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The problem is the first game is almost perfect. I think once the entire FFVII remake series is done, that could end up being the best, but we'll wait and see.
Danjin44
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I LOVE FFVII Remake and highly looking forward to Rebirth but those games are not remakes. Even devs themselves conformed it and even in one of their interview they said they were excited to reveal why they call the first game "remake".
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KuraiShidosha
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Resident Evil 2 PS1 > Resident Evil GC > Resident Evil 3: Nemesis PS1 > Resident Evil PS1 > Resident Evil 4 GC > Resident Evil: Code Veronica > Resident Evil 0 > everything else with the name Resident Evil in it. 4 Remake doesn't even make the cut, neither do 2 and 3 Remakes.
But then Re4 Remake is not really a remake either, as it drastically changes the characters and the story, the level design, mechanics, etc.
I think the term "remake" has to have more flexibility, as it can mean a 1:1 remake (SotC) or a, more or less, different game from the original (FF7R, Re4).
Danjin44
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Not really, if you played FFVIIRemake the game is almost secret sequel to OG FFVII and Advent Children, characters remembering past events changing course of the story. RE4R other hand is basically
same as RER in GC, they made changes but still follow same events as the original.
I consider SotC and Demons Souls (2020) same as FFVII Crisis Core Reunion, they dont change anything other than the visuals. In fact Nier Replicant ver 1.22 that just considered "upgrade" did more changes to the story and the gameplay than those two games did.
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