Bulletbrain
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I hope the entire 4000 series underperforms Nvidia expectations by a very large degree. 8gb card at 450 bucks? Absolutely ridiculous in 2023.
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[Rumor] 4060TI coming in May for $450
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Corporal.Hicks
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Of course some people have lower expectations, but even 6700XT will run all upcoming PS5 ports without problems thanks to RDNA2 architecture and 12GB of VRAM. In current games 6700XT destroys even RTX3070, and not because RTX3070 is slower, but because 6700XT isnt VRAM limited.
Nvidia has a real problem at the moment because not many gamers will want to pay $450 for the new GPU just to be VRAM limited from day one. Something like 4070 12GB is a little bit more expensive, but it's MUCH better proposition, because 12GB is still enough for modern and upcoming games.
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Ev1L AuRoN
Member
Unacceptable. I'm glad I gave up waiting for it and bought a PS5. I'll keep my old 2060 for lightweight gaming and play the nextgen stuff on my PS5.
Maybe in one or two years we have something that resembles a deal.
Maybe in one or two years we have something that resembles a deal.
GreatnessRD
Member
We as consumers could combat this, but its too many wild folks out here. If we just stop purchasing garbage at garbage prices, Nvidia, AMD and Intel will be forced to come correct. But if all you hear is "DLSS, mah traced rays at 1080p. AMD suxors drivers, Intel gotta mature" instead of holding these billion dollar companies accountable, you'll get 4060's for $500, lol. And AMD can follow suit with audacity releasing 7900 XT's for $900 Murica dollars.
Don't buy no shit won't be no shit! Or whatever Lil Jon said.
Don't buy no shit won't be no shit! Or whatever Lil Jon said.
Dirk Benedict
Member
Senua
Member
I'll be keeping my 1080 another gen, amazes me it has the same vram as my 7 year old gpu
MadchesterManc
Member
At this rate Nvidia will probably resurrect the XX10 series for entry level at something like $199
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Less performance gains for more money. That’s today’s GPU market. 4060ti is good for a laugh.
The one good thing is these cards aren’t selling.
The one good thing is these cards aren’t selling.
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Zathalus
Member
You can get a good deal at the low to mid range. You just need to go with AMD. You can pick up a 12GB 6700XT for as low as $349, or a 16GB 6800 for around $469.
Dirk Benedict
Member
Fucking scumbags. Minimum should be 12GB. In fact, there shouldn't be any more cards in the single digits, imo.
Senua
Member
I'd let the 4050 off being 8, but yea definitely not a bloody 4060 TI model
Dirk Benedict
Member
Nah, man. If Nvidia were genuine about gaming and advancing PC, they'd drop anything below 12GB. I don't think that is asking a lot, given how they fucked the 4xxx series with shit cards, except the 4090, imo. AMD getting more competitive in the low-mid range market by actually doing the fucking sensible thing and throwing more VRAM into the mix with some nice perf.
Rocco Schiavone
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nkarafo
Member
Its sarcasm.
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but why?
it's evident an 8 GB is not enough for a minimum card. some of the newer games do not run well at full HD with 8Gb. and 4060ti is supposed to be a 2k card. the 3060ti was fine for 2k gaming as well at 60 fps and above.
way to be a greedy man. They are just screwing the consumer so they are forced to update in a year or 2 when they realize their card is shit and can't run shit.
We need a proper player in the market. AMD is retarded. not a single mid-range card has been released so far. and when you hope they do something awesome to destroy Nvidia price to performance ratio, they come up with a retarded card combined with a retarded marketing.
it's evident an 8 GB is not enough for a minimum card. some of the newer games do not run well at full HD with 8Gb. and 4060ti is supposed to be a 2k card. the 3060ti was fine for 2k gaming as well at 60 fps and above.
way to be a greedy man. They are just screwing the consumer so they are forced to update in a year or 2 when they realize their card is shit and can't run shit.
We need a proper player in the market. AMD is retarded. not a single mid-range card has been released so far. and when you hope they do something awesome to destroy Nvidia price to performance ratio, they come up with a retarded card combined with a retarded marketing.
MadchesterManc
Member
HBM2 as well so probably cost a pretty penny compared to GDDR6
Honey Bunny
Member
GTX 970 had 3.5GB for $329 nine years ago
PeteBull
Member
Vram wise its pretty straightforward, even if u compare nvidia products only, u know something fishy is going on if same 8gigs of vram u got in gtx 1070 and rtx 3070ti, while the latter offers +119% performance vs the former, according to https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1070.c2840 so ofc its rough avg among big chunk of games tested.
So if we getting 4060/ti which will be somewhere around 3070ti performance wise and with only 8gigs and not 16, u know card gonna be fucked straight out of the gate, unless it is priced close to old 3060ti which currently starts from 410$, then i think customers would somehow bite it, otherwise, if its 450-500$ msrp and still 8gigs of vram only, definitely doa coz the ppl on tight budget definitely cant afford it, and ones who can afford it will want simply more vram.
So if we getting 4060/ti which will be somewhere around 3070ti performance wise and with only 8gigs and not 16, u know card gonna be fucked straight out of the gate, unless it is priced close to old 3060ti which currently starts from 410$, then i think customers would somehow bite it, otherwise, if its 450-500$ msrp and still 8gigs of vram only, definitely doa coz the ppl on tight budget definitely cant afford it, and ones who can afford it will want simply more vram.
RagnarokIV
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So 4060 Ti is basically going to be a 4050?
manfestival
Member
the 40 series is absolutely dog... so over this generation of cards.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
well, 5000 series will be interesting. probably upsetting price-wise, but interesting.
recently went from a 980ti to 3090.
hopefully it'll give me the option of waiting till the 6000 series, if need be (maybe it'll be MCM).
recently went from a 980ti to 3090.
hopefully it'll give me the option of waiting till the 6000 series, if need be (maybe it'll be MCM).
LavitzSlambert
Member
Anyone buying a new 8GB GPU in 2023 deserves whatever happens to them.
PeteBull
Member
Imho its all about that price, make it low enough and its solid purchase, ofc 400$ isnt by any means low enough if u got 12gigs 6700xt starting at 340$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CC...rx-6700-xt-12-gb-video-card-rx6700xt-cld-12go or 16gigs 6800 at 450$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nr...00-16-gb-video-card-rx-6800-gaming-z-trio-16g
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
I bought the 4070, which really should be a 4060Ti going on previous generation of Nvidia GPUs.
I normally only go for xx60 GPUs for power/value but had no choice to go with a 4070 to get xx80 previous gen perf.
I normally only go for xx60 GPUs for power/value but had no choice to go with a 4070 to get xx80 previous gen perf.
Bojji
Member
Yeah, 4070 is the only reasonable part in whole Ada lineup so far.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Then it will be 379, then 429, then.... these guys just make shit up.
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Imagine spending $450 on an 8GB GPU in 2023. 
Hot5pur
Member
They need to drop the 4070 to $499 at MOST.
$399 for 4060 Ti is a bit sad with 8 GB, needs to have 12 GB as well.
In a way it's good there is this stigma attached to 8 GB now, rightfully so, otherwise excellent cards are gimped by low VRAM (a relatively cheap component).
Need to push this message so Nvidia doesn't get a free pass this generation and fixes things with a (hopefully) refresh soon.
$399 for 4060 Ti is a bit sad with 8 GB, needs to have 12 GB as well.
In a way it's good there is this stigma attached to 8 GB now, rightfully so, otherwise excellent cards are gimped by low VRAM (a relatively cheap component).
Need to push this message so Nvidia doesn't get a free pass this generation and fixes things with a (hopefully) refresh soon.