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[GrandlyBodacious]

...without fail, whenever they show off their games, they always get me to think, "Actually, that does look pretty good."

My first impression of Metroid Prime 4 from its trailers were, "Looks alright," if I'm being honest. But now after seeing the gameplay after the Treehouse, I'm left pretty excited to play.

And with Mario Kart World it was the same. I couldn't help but think, $80 for another Mario Kart? Really? I personally wanted something different for the Switch 2's big launch title, but I can understand Nintendo wanting a repeat of Mario Kart 8: Deluxe's numbers and relying on its selling power to help move its console. As a Nintendo consumer, though, I wondered what could really be all that different about this one. I've played Mario Kart before. It's a lot of fun every time, but I'm personally just a bit burnt out after so much Mario Kart over the last 8 years.

But I just finished watching the Mario Kart World's Direct, and as I watched, I couldn't help but think, "That's cool."

• Coin Shell is an item I hope to get in hand with an early lead.
• Costumes are going to be very popular with players.
• Photo mode isn't something I think I'll use much, but it's again something I think will be popular with players.
• It'll finally be easy to talk with friends online while playing.
• Free Roam with friends seems like it can be fun. Imagine getting high and just karting/touring through the Mario world with some collectibles and challenges spread throughout.

And other things I was previously critical of I began thinking better of: All the random-ass NPCs they have as characters now I thought was a bummer at first, because there are some more consequential Mario characters that haven't made the cut yet, but really, with an increase to the number of drivers now being 24 and a lot of them being a flood of creatures and characters from Mario's world, this Mario Kart really feels more like a kart racer and tournament set in the Mario universe. In Mario Kart 8: Deluxe, it felt more like a kart racer set in the Nintendo universe.

This being the first Mario Kart where courses are linked and players drive to the next course of the grand prix is something I dismissed at first, too, thinking it ain't all that special or notable for a new experience to hook players in, but actually it is a pretty significant moment for Mario Kart and again helps with that immersion. I'm starting to think of Mario Kart World, This looks like a realization of what Mario Kart always should have been as a franchise, if technology could have allowed it in the past. It would be pretty cool to be able to experience that.

Is it worth $80? Eh, I'm still pretty annoyed about that. But I know this much at least, after being shown more of their game:

Nintendo, once again, I want to play.

 

[64gigabyteram]

yeah that's called marketing

 

[iHaunter]

Congratulations, you have been brainwashed not to care.

 

[diffusionx]

I don't really care about Mario Kart World but I do like that they found a new path for this series. They couldn't make "Mario Kart 9", aka Mario Kart 8 with more stuff, because Mario Kart 8 Deluxe already has everything.

 

[Loomy]

Nintendo has conditioned you to have subterranean expectations, so when they show something that even remotely looks like it can peek above grass, you're impressed.

I'm mostly joking, but only mostly.

 

[peronmls]

It's the same Mario Kart. Same 3D Mario. Just dressed differently. It all feels the same. It was fun the first time. But for the 10th time. No. It's not fun anymore. It's boring. Nintendo doesn't have faith in making New IPs in house. They stick with Mario and Kirby BS because the brainwashed will buy it. Also children bring them money.

 

[GrandlyBodacious]

Nintendo has conditioned you to have subterranean expectations, so when they show something that even remotely looks like it can peek above grass, you're impressed.

I'm mostly joking, but only mostly.

Just the opposite actually. When I consider their titles like Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, where they go completely all out, and that there are many Nintendo titles like that, I've been very used to a phenomenal gaming experience consistently from Nintendo and have been conditioned to have very high expectations from them. That's why I'm critical of them also. I know what they can consistently put out.

 

[Lokaum D+]

and thast why Nintendo ll always get away with its bad practices, there is no shortage of boot licking fans.

 

[ioo]

...

• Photo mode isn't something I think I'll use much, but it's again something I think will be popular with players.
• It'll finally be easy to talk with friends online while playing.
• Free Roam with friends seems like it can be fun. Imagine getting high and just karting/touring through the Mario world with some collectibles and challenges spread throughout.

You can't be serious, you know these things exist by far? You can speak with your friends and go to a open world from ps3 era mann i know you're trying hard to convince yourself that this game worth the price but it doesn't. Not even the slightest. It's a good mario kart game for sure, but a bad open world with empty maps connected

 

[Rran]

I'm someone that actually didn't like MK8 much compared to most games in the series. And I was really underwhelmed with the 10-second peek at the new game in the Switch 2 teaser. But I think World is looking great after the various presentations its had. Nintendo has had some real problems during the Switch era of having underwhelming sequels (like the Mario sports games) but it feels like they brought their A-game with this one.

Still should be $70 though.

 

[AJUMP23]

Nintendo really is a great marketing machine.

 

[Tg89]

It's the same Mario Kart. Same 3D Mario. Just dressed differently. It all feels the same. It was fun the first time. But for the 10th time. No. It's not fun anymore. It's boring. Nintendo doesn't have faith in making New IPs in house. They stick with Mario and Kirby BS because the brainwashed will buy it. Also children bring them money.

This isn't some uniquely Nintendo thing though.

The AAA industry as a whole doesn't really do "new IP". And even when they do, it's generally a derivative game. I can't think of many large publishers where that's not the case.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

game looks great... entry price is still a concern for family market though

At the same time, they won't kill you with trash paid DLC like most kid-oriented games (...fortnite is the worst offender, basically exists to do nothing but steal $$$ from the children who actually want those retarded skins). Given that it'll be a game lasting for years without any of that crap, at $80 you're probably spending much less as a parent than you would on those season-based trash games. But the up-front cost may still cause some reactions.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Gaming (whether it's console or PC) is a tech industry. And tech industry expectations are bigger and better because computing power and software tools improve. On the other hand, any person or company making loaves of bread can only get so far.

But Nintendo did a great job with Wii by basically marketing a GC 5 years later with waggle controls. And since then they rode the last gen power and franchise sequels over and over again at full price with few discount deals. And the Nintendo gamer loves it. Even their online interface is abysmal (Switch gamers still got to do that cellphone link thing?), while Xbox/PS has had pretty good standard online since the 360/PS3 gen 20 years ago.

No other platform gamer would stand for this. But Nintendo did and they'll milk it to the bone. And why not? Sales and profits are awesome.

For you young gamers who only know Wii and Switch, back before that Nintendo would try to make consoles like N64 or GC going toe to toe with Sony and MS. And SNES going against Sega. Heck, N64 was the first console with anti-aliasing when it wasnt even standard on PC yet. And SNES had Mode 7 which was a big thing at the time zooming and rotating graphics.

 

[RCU005]

I don't really care about Mario Kart World but I do like that they found a new path for this series. They couldn't make "Mario Kart 9", aka Mario Kart 8 with more stuff, because Mario Kart 8 Deluxe already has everything.

After watching the Direct I actually thought that it was Mario Kart 8 World. To me, it was the perfect opportunity to have Story Mode. Also, if the "race-to-the-next-track" would have been seamless, then it would've been impressive. As it's stand now, it's just a polished Mario Kart 8.

The Open world is interesting, but it's going to take certain amount to discover everything, and by then it would be hard to care anymore. Nintendo will have to add DLC, which I imagine would expand the word, but the cost is getting ridiculous. There is no way they'll offer 48 tracks for $24.99 anymore. In fact, I can already imagine they'll charge that for each new cup (which will have to include the new territory of the world).

I don't know if this is unpopular, but I was really expecting Mario Kart All Stars. It's more exciting to me to be able to race in tracks inspired by other franchises, like the ones we got in MK8, but also include new items based on those franchises too.

I'm tired of everything being open world. I believe that's the way companies are trying to justify a game being "big" for the sake of it. Story-driven and shorter/smaller games can be great too, and also even more worth than bigger ones.

The biggest problem right now is the price of the game. They went beyond cynicism, way beyond Sony's arrogance during PS3 launch, and Xbox's imaginary confidence for the Xbox One. I really want them to fail. People need to understand that companies (vide games or otherwise, shouldn't just raise prices because they like it, and not even justified by demand/economic realities). I still believe, though, that this will end up in the same situation than the 3DS launch.

 

[The Lunch Legend]

OP sounds like a shill.

 

[Sebastian1295]

We all saw mario kart world in that direct and it did nothing to warrant an 80 dollar price tag. It has a big world that has nothing to do in it. Like legitimately the world is just set dressing and you're supposed to ride around and do what exactly? There's no story/adventure mode so lol what's the point. The game just looks like another mario kart game.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

My last Nintendo console was the first Wii and the Nintendo consoles I actually liked were the SNES, N64, and Gamecube. So I haven't been a Nintendo fan for a very long time, like around 15 years or more.

But I do like what I see on Mario Kart World and Metroid Prime 4 and maybe Hyrule Warriors Imprisonment War.

Not completely sold yet even on MRSP price cause I ain't buying for more than that but I might consider it if I'm able to get the 500 dollar budget for the mrsp price since I do like the news of there being more Metroids with Metroid Prime 5 already being worked on and I'm very curious about the next AAA Zelda in a year or two. So maybe I might just consider it and become a Nintendo fan again after around 15 years

I'm in the position where both paths are good for me cause if I can't get it for MRSP price than good I'll save my money and continue to stay with PC only which is what I've been doing since the later half of the PS3 era. Or if I could get it for MRSP Price than I'll finally become a Nintendo fan again. But I also wanna see how good Oblivion remake is cause if it's good than I'll just stick with that and not worry about the Switch 2 till next year or the end of this year at least.

 

[Tams]

It's the same Mario Kart. Same 3D Mario. Just dressed differently. It all feels the same. It was fun the first time. But for the 10th time. No. It's not fun anymore. It's boring. Nintendo doesn't have faith in making New IPs in house. They stick with Mario and Kirby BS because the brainwashed will buy it. Also children bring them money.

 

[Ritsumei2020]

Oh no a positive Nintendo thread?

Quick GAF, post some snarky comments, cant let this pass


'This game looks like it could run on a Gamecube lol'

 

[Schmendrick]

K

 

[Midway-AGNC-]

Oh no a positive Nintendo thread?

Quick GAF, post some snarky comments, cant let this pass


'This game looks like it could run on a Gamecube lol'

It's honestly wild how around here, not only is any positive Nintendo thread immediately met with kneejerk sarcasm, but even constructive or hopeful feedback — the kind that could actually push the company to improve — gets drowned out in a sea of ironic quips and pre-chewed fanboy lines.

God forbid someone say "Hey, maybe Nintendo could communicate a bit more clearly" without being met with a flood of "BuT wE dOn'T wAnT pR fLuFf" or "ThEy Do DiReCtS rEgUlArLy." Like clockwork, it turns into this performative defense squad swarming the thread, mistaking every suggestion for treason against the holy house of Mario.

It's not just toxic positivity — it's toxic stagnation. You're not allowed to want better. You're only allowed to cheer louder.

 

[Robb]

They make great, and very polished, stuff for sure.

At least most of the time. That new Drag X Drive wheelchair game looked awful.

 

[Topher]

It's honestly wild how around here, not only is any positive Nintendo thread immediately met with kneejerk sarcasm, but even constructive or hopeful feedback — the kind that could actually push the company to improve — gets drowned out in a sea of ironic quips and pre-chewed fanboy lines.

God forbid someone say "Hey, maybe Nintendo could communicate a bit more clearly" without being met with a flood of "BuT wE dOn'T wAnT pR fLuFf" or "ThEy Do DiReCtS rEgUlArLy." Like clockwork, it turns into this performative defense squad swarming the thread, mistaking every suggestion for treason against the holy house of Mario.

It's not just toxic positivity — it's toxic stagnation. You're not allowed to want better. You're only allowed to cheer louder.

Folks can say whatever they want, but if they come across like a shill and they will get these responses. That's not just Nintendo so this "positive Nintendo thread" crying really needs to stop.

 

[Midway-AGNC-]

Folks can say whatever they want, but if they come across like a shill and they will get these responses. That's not just Nintendo so this "positive Nintendo thread" crying really needs to stop.

Sure, but can you elaborate what exactly you mean by "shill" in this context?

Because lately it feels like "shill" just means "someone who said something even slightly positive about Nintendo," regardless of nuance or intent. At what point does a fair opinion or a suggestion for improvement cross the line into "shilling"? Is simply not being cynical 24/7 now a red flag? Genuinely curious where that line is for you.

 

[Zacfoldor]

I love many of their games. Closest tap to pure joy in my life. A few I don't care for. If you count xenoblade as Nintendo they are EASILY one of the best devs. Even without it, still one of the best.

 

[Kataploom]

Nintendo has that effect and I think thye do it on purpose... They tend to tease stuff and call it a day, even highly expected ones... Then wait for some months and generate the actual hype. Whenever they show something for first time, the best thing you can do is to expect a better trailer or a Direct later with much better presentation.

 

[Zannegan]

Having lived through Wii Music and Federation Force, Nintendo games don't always deliver. Sometimes their wacky ideas are magic, and sometimes they're pure whiffs.

 

[Kilau]

Imagine getting high and just…

 

[Topher]

Sure, but can you elaborate what exactly you mean by "shill" in this context?

Because lately it feels like "shill" just means "someone who said something even slightly positive about Nintendo," regardless of nuance or intent. At what point does a fair opinion or a suggestion for improvement cross the line into "shilling"? Is simply not being cynical 24/7 now a red flag? Genuinely curious where that line is for you.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting the OP crossed any "line". I'm speaking generally. Personally I try not to throw around "shill" or even "fanboy" (unless I'm kidding around) because I don't think it is a productive way of discussing things. Having said that, probably would have been better to post this in an existing thread rather than start a new one really, especially for a new guy that folks don't really know yet. I do think there is some skepticism these days about posters being paid to promote in forums and this thread is going to have folks looking at it sideways as a result. But G GrandlyBodacious seems to be weathering it well so that's good.

 

[IAmRei]

saw direct yesterday.
MK8D to MKW is high leap.
not only gameplay, the contents and system too.
Physic and Possibilities also leaping a lot. I'm sure there will be lot of fun for those who played it.
I once not liking mario kart series, and consider it as chilidish. but the time I tried MKDS, my mind changed forever.

in my place, people played MK more than anything else, even if there is PS and they also had fine pc, they still occassionally play MK8D more than anything
the fun is lays in bullying each other or cursing AIs. The AIs in MK8D is the best balanced AIs in racing as far as I know.
I wish MKW at least, on par or maybe improved more than MK8D

 

[GrandlyBodacious]

To be clear, I'm not suggesting the OP crossed any "line". I'm speaking generally. Personally I try not to throw around "shill" or even "fanboy" (unless I'm kidding around) because I don't think it is a productive way of discussing things. Having said that, probably would have been better to post this in an existing thread rather than start a new one really, especially for a new guy that folks don't really know yet. I do think there is some skepticism these days about posters being paid to promote in forums and this thread is going to have folks looking at it sideways as a result. But G GrandlyBodacious seems to be weathering it well so that's good.

Wait, you were serious? You actually think I'm a paid Nintendo promoter?

I'm a Nintendo fanboy, if anything; I'll promote their stuff for free!

I just thought this perspective on Mario Kart World could prompt some discussion.

 

[Topher]

Wait, you were serious? You actually think I'm a paid Nintendo promoter?

That's not what I said at all

 

[Midway-AGNC-]

Wait, you were serious? You actually think I'm a paid Nintendo promoter?

I'm a Nintendo fanboy, if anything; I'll promote their stuff for free!

I just thought this perspective on Mario Kart World could prompt some discussion.

Oh, you dared question the sacred narrative? What audacity! Now you're paying the price for your heresy, facing the wrath of the herd mentality — let this be a lesson for your life: never speak against the group in the name of Nintendo. May your transgression be forgiven someday

 

[Topher]

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

saw direct yesterday.
MK8D to MKW is high leap.
not only gameplay, the contents and system too.
Physic and Possibilities also leaping a lot. I'm sure there will be lot of fun for those who played it.
I once not liking mario kart series, and consider it as chilidish. but the time I tried MKDS, my mind changed forever.

in my place, people played MK more than anything else, even if there is PS and they also had fine pc, they still occassionally play MK8D more than anything
the fun is lays in bullying each other or cursing AIs. The AIs in MK8D is the best balanced AIs in racing as far as I know.
I wish MKW at least, on par or maybe improved more than MK8D

Agreed they went all out on Mario Kart World with not just better graphics but being able to process all 24 players who doing their own cool tricks and stuff and having a massive map with loads of details everywhere and making them all work well together. Mario Kart World looks to be their true big Mario Kart game. So I'm also wondering and waiting for the next Mario Party cause I feel like the next Mario Party is going to be Mario Party World or something like that where they'll go all out and be the biggest Mario Party ever just like Mario Kart World for the Kart series.

I'm hoping we could actually explore most of the Mario Party game stadium like some grand theme park game or Las Vegas type of thing. We'll get the most Boards out of every Party game and it'll also be the biggest by far. More players per board but not by much. However they'll have a new Theme park attraction mod where a lot more players can roam around like 24 or maybe less if it requires more processing power. Where they can visit a vast variety of theme parks and game rooms to play random minigames. Quests, etc etc. Also loaded with npcs to roam around for immersion just like Mario Kart World.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

this Mario Kart really feels more like a kart racer and tournament set in the Mario universe. In Mario Kart 8: Deluxe, it felt more like a kart racer set in the Nintendo universe.

people keep saying the open-world decision was an obvious move, but... I'm so glad they didn't take the other "obvious" route and turn it into a Nintendo-crossover game like Smash. Having all the different franchises smashed together would have been awful. I agree that it's nice to see an entire world that is a cohesive Mario universe again. Even Odyssey annoyed me with losing that concept.

 

[March Climber]

It's the same Mario Kart. Same 3D Mario. Just dressed differently. It all feels the same. It was fun the first time. But for the 10th time. No. It's not fun anymore. It's boring. Nintendo doesn't have faith in making New IPs in house. They stick with Mario and Kirby BS because the brainwashed will buy it. Also children bring them money.

This is the unfortunate case. Nintendo holds on to old I.P.s for way too long to the detriment of introducing new ones, Sony is too risky and will abandon old I.P.s instead of nurturing their older ones, and lastly Microsoft has a decent middleground between both, but they greenlight too much too soon without a good enough captain at the helm of each project.

I think we will see at least 1-2 new AAA I.P.s from Nintendo this generation.

I also agree that the marketing is working on OP by design. The cutesy Nintendo Direct music, the bright and colorful imagery, the very cheery and positive announcer VO before, during, and after each trailer, the way the company manages to maintain a positive mystique, etc. On one hand I like that they continue to ignore people and just display positivity and fun in the usual Nintendo way, but on the other hand they have ignored the public a bit too much, so much that they are slowly becoming out of touch, unnecessarily.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

people keep saying the open-world decision was an obvious move, but... I'm so glad they didn't take the other "obvious" route and turn it into a Nintendo-crossover game like Smash. Having all the different franchises smashed together would have been awful. I agree that it's nice to see an entire world that is a cohesive Mario universe again. Even Odyssey annoyed me with losing that concept.

I want a eventual Mario Party World to Crossover with Mario Kart World if they do something crazy and awesome like that. Since I feel like those two fits better together. Drive around the course but between all these racing tracks, you got gigantic beautiful stadiums, casinos, theme parks etc which contains Mario Party events so you can drive to the parties or race!

I mean I wouldn't mind combining a eventual Super Smash world for a three way MEGA CROSSOVER so we can also beat the crap out of each other while driving and going to parities but I think Party and Kart fits better together on some giant map.

 

[Robb]

people keep saying the open-world decision was an obvious move

That has to be something people just say in hindsight.

Like 90% of the speculation for the next Mario Kart that I've seen were "Nintendo Kart".

 

[Madjaba]

Oh, you dared question the sacred narrative? What audacity! Now you're paying the price for your heresy, facing the wrath of the herd mentality — let this be a lesson for your life: never speak against the group in the name of Nintendo. May your transgression be forgiven someday

Asked for mature and open-minded discussion and then you're doing this kind of thing ? Welp.

The main issue is that discussion is impossible because people are trying way too hard to justify their future purchase.
If you're convinced why do you need to convince anyone else ? I don't understand this logic at all.

I fully understand people that look at those posts as poorly executed PR stunts because it really looks like this.
"Look, this game is leaps and bounds from the ancient one, and we will have [throws up a list of points to justify anything without anybody asking for it]".

Yes, those threads are tiring and not bringing anything particularly interesting to the discussion.

 

[Topher]

Asked for mature and open-minded discussion and then you're doing this kind of thing ? Welp.

The main issue is that discussion is impossible because people are trying way too hard to justify their future purchase.
If you're convinced why do you need to convince anyone else ? I don't understand this logic at all.

I fully understand people that look at those posts as poorly executed PR stunts because it really looks like this.
"Look, this game is leaps and bounds from the ancient one, and we will have [throws up a list of points to justify anything without anybody asking for it]".

Yes, those threads are tiring and not bringing anything particularly interesting to the discussion.

Agree. Doesn't help to turn around and play the victim either. We certainly don't need any more of that.

 

[Midway-AGNC-]

Asked for mature and open-minded discussion and then you're doing this kind of thing ? Welp.

The main issue is that discussion is impossible because people are trying way too hard to justify their future purchase.
If you're convinced why do you need to convince anyone else ? I don't understand this logic at all.

I fully understand people that look at those posts as poorly executed PR stunts because it really looks like this.
"Look, this game is leaps and bounds from the ancient one, and we will have [throws up a list of points to justify anything without anybody asking for it]".

Yes, those threads are tiring and not bringing anything particularly interesting to the discussion.

Of course, accusing someone of being a shill, the pinnacle of mature and open-minded discussion, right?

 

[GrandlyBodacious]

That's not what I said at all

Hmm...

Folks can say whatever they want, but if they come across like a shill and they will get these responses. That's not just Nintendo so this "positive Nintendo thread" crying really needs to stop.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting the OP crossed any "line". I'm speaking generally. Personally I try not to throw around "shill" or even "fanboy" (unless I'm kidding around) because I don't think it is a productive way of discussing things. Having said that, probably would have been better to post this in an existing thread rather than start a new one really, especially for a new guy that folks don't really know yet. I do think there is some skepticism these days about posters being paid to promote in forums and this thread is going to have folks looking at it sideways as a result. But G GrandlyBodacious seems to be weathering it well so that's good.

What are you trying to say, then?

It's okay to have a positive Nintendo thread. This is a forum for gamers to discuss gaming.

 

[Topher]

Hmm...





What are you trying to say, then?

It's okay to have a positive Nintendo thread. This is a forum for gamers to discuss gaming.

Somehow, you missed this.....

"To be clear, I'm not suggesting the OP crossed any "line". I'm speaking generally. "

You are the OP. I clearly said that I'm speaking "generally". That means not specifically about you.

Where I did reference you was referring to the responses you are receiving. I never once said you were a shill.

It's okay to have a positive Nintendo thread. This is a forum for gamers to discuss gaming.

No shit

 

[bender]

That's not what I said at all

Shut up, shill.

 

[Ritsumei2020]

To be clear, I'm not suggesting the OP crossed any "line". I'm speaking generally. Personally I try not to throw around "shill" or even "fanboy" (unless I'm kidding around) because I don't think it is a productive way of discussing things. Having said that, probably would have been better to post this in an existing thread rather than start a new one really, especially for a new guy that folks don't really know yet. I do think there is some skepticism these days about posters being paid to promote in forums and this thread is going to have folks looking at it sideways as a result. But G GrandlyBodacious seems to be weathering it well so that's good.

You would think half of Neogaf was on the payroll of Nvidia the way they suck its dick

To be fair, if I Nvidia gave me a 5090 I would be shilling too

 

[GrandlyBodacious]

Somehow, you missed this.....

"To be clear, I'm not suggesting the OP crossed any "line". I'm speaking generally. "

You are the OP. I clearly said that I'm speaking "generally". That means not specifically about you.

Where I did reference you was referring to the responses you are receiving. I never once said you were a shill.



No shit

Oh, I didn't miss it. It just seems to me if you come into this thread and start speaking "generally" about shills, you're trying to aim the label at my OP without being direct about it. And then especially if you're going to tag me, expect to get a response.

"No shit?" Seems you could use the reminder not to take GAF so seriously.

 

[Topher]

Oh, I didn't miss it. It just seems to me if you come into this thread and start speaking "generally" about shills, you're trying to aim the label at my OP without being direct about it. And then especially if you're going to tag me, expect to get a response.

Actually I tagged you and said you were weathering the responses well as a compliment. As to say, you weren't letting the responses get to you.

 

[SiahWester]

The industry has expanded so much that most of the experiences Nintendo offers are no longer unique or cutting edge. I could buy a Switch 2 with Mario Kart but I'm just afraid of spending the money and having it collect dust.

It looks fun, sure, but not $80 worth or worth the price of the Switch 2. Donkey Kong to me doesn't look fun at all and lacks the kind of platforming I'd hope for. Zelda has always been that driving force but I am beyond burnt out of the Breath of the Wild universe and was before Tears of the Kingdom. They need to do something actually new next time. Odyssey was just okay to me. Animal Crossing lost its charm with the last iteration.

There's just more exciting experiences out there to be had than Nintendo games. Maybe I've just grown out of them, but it just seems underwhelming when compared to other stuff out there.