Schreier: Hogwarts DLC and Definitive Edition reportedly cancelled
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Mibu no ookami
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Obvious mistake. You sell it for even 5 dollars and you're going to bring in massive revenue.
If everyone who owns the game bought it, that's 170 million dollars in revenue. 340 million for 10 dollars... Obviously not everyone would buy it (though the cheaper it is the more likely), that's probably enough to pay for the development of a sequel...
If everyone who owns the game bought it, that's 170 million dollars in revenue. 340 million for 10 dollars... Obviously not everyone would buy it (though the cheaper it is the more likely), that's probably enough to pay for the development of a sequel...
ZoukGalaxy
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Too bad, I didn't buy the game because I never buy physical games that requires Internet to play them since the data are missing on disc, so I was hoping for a later proper complete "definitive edition".
Apparently , I can wait forever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Apparently , I can wait forever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
get out
fart town usa
Banned
lol.
Who the hell is running WB? They're even selling off Looney Tunes, though I suppose that's a good thing. The Day The Earth Blew Up is a solid movie and I want more.
It's so wild to me that Western business leaders can shit the bed for years on end and not be shown the door. I'd love to see that change in my lifetime.
Who the hell is running WB? They're even selling off Looney Tunes, though I suppose that's a good thing. The Day The Earth Blew Up is a solid movie and I want more.
It's so wild to me that Western business leaders can shit the bed for years on end and not be shown the door. I'd love to see that change in my lifetime.
fart town usa
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Liopleurodon
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ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
I don't think this is that crazy a decision. If it was just a rehab project for Rocksteady, I see no point other than scraping more cash. Their time and attention is better spent on their next Batman title, and if they want to iterate/reform Hogwarts Legacy, they can just do it with the sequel. The industry used to be able to move from game to sequel without half-steps or pseudo-remasters within the same gen. Definitive editions aren't the worst thing they've come up, but I doubt anyone was expecting this to be P5 Royale/Blood and Wine/Phantom Liberty level.
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NickFire
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Of all the ways companies monetize games and they aren't somehow, anyhow, making bank off new content is a head scratcher. Not like it sold a gazillion copies or anything.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
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WB is quite possibly the most retarded company on the planet.
Bernardougf
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DLC becoming a full priced sequel in 3 2 1 ....
DownLikeBCPowder
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Seems like a dumbass thing to do if you're worried about financial success of your products to cancel one of the only guaranteed financial returns you have in development, but what do I know.
SirKicksalot
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Joins the third movie expansion for Lego Hobbit and the Mad Max DLC in WB limbo.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
I mean, I hate WB but I never thought karma would hit him so hard.
CamHostage
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Eh, there were something like five studios contributing work to Hogwarts Legacy beyond just Avalanche, and this DLC was supposedly being done by Rocksteady (to keep them busy without Suicide Squad content while Batman ramps up.) A producer would have had to have been involved in sign-offs, but there should have been more than enough outside talent to make a DLC without burdening the team making a sequel.
I'm not sure what reason this would have had to have been canceled, but in a well-run and inspired production system, these kinds of projects should help velocity, not bog it down.
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CamHostage
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Sadly, on a ledger, this probably isn't shitting the bed; it's making an incredibly cushy money-bed and rolling around in it blissfully.
There used to be a time where you made money by making a thing, but now these corporations are so massive (and have expanded so grotesquely out of shape) that it costs more to try than it would to just sit there and regurgitate.
The Day the Earth Blew Up is doing better than nothing but still will likely not make enough to succeed over its budget (it's nearing $10mil globally after 2 weeks, production budget was about $14, so not a bath but it'll be lucky to recoup... good on you for seeing it and trying to make a difference, BTW,) and Ketchup will have an even tougher task trying to make $50mil off Coyote vs Acme (though I hope somehow it works out for them, I really do...) WB gets to do nothing (and write off the failure losses of having once had hopes and dreams) and somehow it's better for them than it did to to the work.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Given the involvement of Rocksteady, perhaps the underlying implication is that Rocksteady is close to getting shut down.
CamHostage
Member
Uh, no, that's not how "canceled" works. A thing can go through rounds of production, cost millions of dollars, and engage hundreds of workers without you ever knowing about it. It's not a tree-falling-in-a-forest thought experiment; a public announcement isn't the condition which determines whether something exists/ed or not. You can read about hundreds of projects which were never announced yet got through some levels of production/pre-pro before ultimately getting canceled; a few even have been finished or hacked into working form and released without ever getting an "official announcement" from the companies who made them.
Unseen64: Cancelled Video Games & Their Lost Media
Since 2001 Unseen64 is an archive for beta & cancelled video games, trying to preserve their lost media, information, screenshots & footage. You can help too!
www.unseen64.net
How far the team got into making this Hogwarts DLC before it got dropped though, that'll be interesting to hear when/if more news comes out about this. Given that the Definitive Edition was due to be released this year, I would assume it was pretty far in, but their level of completion by this point may have been one of the reasons why it is supposedly dead.
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Dazraell
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Schreier's article cites Warner thinking the amount of content this expansion will add won't justisfy its planned price, so instead of thinking of other options they outright decided to cancel it
HoodWinked
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probably just folding the content into the sequel.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Why didnt these fuckers just sell their studios and lease out the IPs.
The fact they closed Monolith instead of hunting another publisher or investor to finish the projects shows how incompetent WB Games is.
License that shit out and free your dev studios.
The fact they closed Monolith instead of hunting another publisher or investor to finish the projects shows how incompetent WB Games is.
License that shit out and free your dev studios.
Peroroncino
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kat_on_the_roof
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I don't get it. Why would they cancel the DLC? Is this a fact or just a rumor? I would really, really love more content for the game. My Hufflepuff needs more mysteries to solve. 
nowhat
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I picked up Hogwarts off a PSN sale in January. Previously had skipped the game, for the simple reason that I just don't care for the franchise (never read the books, probably seen most of the movies as they've been on TV so often, but ehh, not my thing).
And, it was a very decent title. I imagine if I'd be a fan of the series I'd be even more enthusiastic about it, but even as an outsider, it was fun. Some of the side missions were surprisingly varied (the one with the Penny-elf and managing a store was awesome). So I'd be in for some DLC. But obviously, WB Games have no fucking clue what they are doing.
And, it was a very decent title. I imagine if I'd be a fan of the series I'd be even more enthusiastic about it, but even as an outsider, it was fun. Some of the side missions were surprisingly varied (the one with the Penny-elf and managing a store was awesome). So I'd be in for some DLC. But obviously, WB Games have no fucking clue what they are doing.
Rockondevil
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Don't worry, they suck at managing movies too. They mismanage everything.
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Gameplay Gods Bless
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Man Schreier is one fugly mofo. Age has not been kind to that soyboy.
WhiteWaterM00se
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Yikes. So, i actually thought the primary driver for this was for Switch 2. Same as the rumored Elden Ring GoTY edition.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
PeteBull
Member
Nope, they lost miserably like they always do.
Despite not being able to talk about the game on rainbow forum and numerous examples of journalists/activists trying to cancel the game, straight from the wiki:
Melon Husk
Member
It wasn't aware DLC was coming and I didn't need any. It was a complete game from the start.
Portkey Games did an amazing job. The sequel only needs minor improvements to be perfect.
Portkey Games did an amazing job. The sequel only needs minor improvements to be perfect.
This probably allows them to put the planned DLC content in the sequel, get it out faster and guarantee another 20 million unit sales.
Probably someone ran the maths and saw it worked.
Not releasing a 'definitive edition' is an insane decision, though. They could have polished up the visuals, added some limited content and cut features and then done a DE to rake in more cash. Really dumb.
ValiantInstance
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They should be working on a sequel instead. The foundations are there to make an actual 9/10 game if they can cut the filler, increase enemy variety and add more fan favourite locations like Diagon Alley and the Ministry of Magic.
Oh and Quidditch obviously.
Oh and Quidditch obviously.
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lughnasadh123
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Agreed with the sentiment of if they're passing on DLC to work on the sequel. The main game is still selling incredibly well even without extra content as is.
diffusionx
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I've never seen an entertainment company be as contemptuous of a successful product as WB is with Hogwarts. They release this singleplayer game that is literally the best selling game of the year, it attracts all the woke scolds, and it is successful while all their live service shit crashes and burns and they release the worst Mortal Kombat since the PS2 days.
Shadowstar39
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Normally I would be like wtf why? but here it makes sense.
Who would this mythical "definitive edition" be for and what would it entail?
There was no dlc so there is no "Komplete version or GOTY Collection" where all the dlc is in one package.
The game is only what 2 years old, this isn't remastering a ps3 game. And unlike Sony and rockstar, most publishers won't remaster a game from the same or prior gen just to resell it to the 4k snobs. (tlou, horizon, until dawn gta5, etc..)
All that being said the game was great.
I don't have faith in the sequel.
As now that it is a success, they will try to fill it with MTX and DEI pushes, in hopes of "maximizing profits" to get a new "modern audience".
It will also be "live service" or forced multiplayer/always online. Not a single player traditional game. Again to "maximize profits".
Thing is doing that will turn people like me away. The woke types being mad, and it being single player, piqued my interest. Catering to gaas and resetera, and I don't buy.
The original game had some woke elements but they were so minor it didn't matter, they stuck to the property and made a good game!
It didn't feel like a bastardization of the property.
The resetera/reddit types hated it so if they target winning that crowd over the sequel will be shit.
Who would this mythical "definitive edition" be for and what would it entail?
There was no dlc so there is no "Komplete version or GOTY Collection" where all the dlc is in one package.
The game is only what 2 years old, this isn't remastering a ps3 game. And unlike Sony and rockstar, most publishers won't remaster a game from the same or prior gen just to resell it to the 4k snobs. (tlou, horizon, until dawn gta5, etc..)
All that being said the game was great.
I don't have faith in the sequel.
As now that it is a success, they will try to fill it with MTX and DEI pushes, in hopes of "maximizing profits" to get a new "modern audience".
It will also be "live service" or forced multiplayer/always online. Not a single player traditional game. Again to "maximize profits".
Thing is doing that will turn people like me away. The woke types being mad, and it being single player, piqued my interest. Catering to gaas and resetera, and I don't buy.
The original game had some woke elements but they were so minor it didn't matter, they stuck to the property and made a good game!
It didn't feel like a bastardization of the property.
The resetera/reddit types hated it so if they target winning that crowd over the sequel will be shit.
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