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[Sentenza]

Cant get my head around that so many people like this gameplay loop where you basically run to a boss hundreds times

It's mostly because.. We don't? Not everyone is a spastic with a crippling finger impairment who needs to attempt the same boss dozens of times. Let alone "hundreds".

 

[Fbh]

I only played through Skyrim once on the 360, back when it originally came out.
I didn't hate it but I also never really understood all the praise. The world is kinda cool and that initial sense of freedom was nice, and I like the music. But the combat is awful, the world design is pretty boring and aside from a few sidequests I didn't think the story was anything special either.

Dark Souls 1 is still one of my favorite games. Just replayed it a year ago and it's still great.

 

[swaffles23]

I was over hyped for Skyrim and it ended up being a step down from Oblivion and Fallout 3 for me.

I had no expectations for Dark Souls and it ended up being one of the greatest games I've ever played. I still remember the IGN article that talked about how Dark Souls will eat Skyrim's face that made a lot of people mad. 2011 was a great year

 

[R6Rider]

I chose option 3.

 

[Kacho]

Skyrim is way more special to me. It gave me the same feeling I got when I played World of Warcraft for the first time in 2004.

 

[ComputerBlue]

Skyrim for me, it’s one of my favorite games of all time and my go to when I just wanna chill out and explore. DS1, it’s great but it isn’t even in my top three souls games.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution

I need this released on current hardware. Fucking Embracer Group, the series is probably dead because of them.

 

[pudel]

I was over hyped for Skyrim and it ended up being a step down from Oblivion and Fallout 3 for me.

It was definitely a step down from Oblivion in certain things...guild quests ie.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

skyrim was extremely disappointing
elder scrolls from a fine meal to a fast food value combo.

i didnt see DS1 coming and it blew me away
the verticality, the sense of discovery and danger, the lack of handholding, the melancholy tone and feeling of isolation, the mystery of the world, the mystery of the gameplay... easily top 10 for me... maybe top 5.

 

[Trogdor1123]

Love both of them but for different reasons. I’ll go back to both whenever I get time.

 

[LectureMaster]

This gif convinced me to give Dark Souls a shot:

It ended up becoming one of my favorite games ever.

 

[Kotaro]

Dark Souls definitely, no contest

 

[El Muerto]

I never liked either one so option 3

 

[DelireMan7]

Dark Souls for me obviously.

My experience with Skyrim is playing it after several hundred hours of Dark Souls. I couldn't adapt to the first person melee combat.
Played it for several hours, and had to fight a dragon and find the combat even worst.

Never touched it again. I often tell myself that I should try again because I went with some Dark Souls expectation in mind. Now I know what to expect from it.

EDIT : Anyhow, I don't think you can really compare both game. Completely different style. It's like comparing Gran Turismo with Mario Kart.

 

[Randall365]

Dark Souls for me obviously.

My experience with Skyrim is playing it after several hundred hours of Dark Souls. I couldn't adapt to the first person melee combat.
Played it for several hours, and had to fight a dragon and find the combat even worst.

Never touched it again. I often tell myself that I should try again because I went with some Dark Souls expectation in mind. Now I know what to expect from it.

EDIT : Anyhow, I don't think you can really compare both game. Completely different style. It's like comparing Gran Turismo with Mario Kart.

You're right - it's comparing great video games - DS1 and Mario Kart, with boring slogfests - Skyrim and Gran Turismo.

 

[Bert Big Balls]

Skyrim.

*you're.

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

Interesting considering demons souls was labelled as poor man's oblivion at the time.

Huh? By who?

They're nothing alike.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Skyrim is infinitely better in every possible way even mods. It is even one of the greatest games of all times.

 

[bender]

Skyrim sucks. I voted the "fat" option.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

Huh? who [called demon souls a poor man's oblivion]?

They're nothing alike.

i rememeber some people saying that.
lots of people crapped on demons souls. even sony.
poor guy was just misunderstood.

with DS1, rumor was going around that it was excellent but was still largely flying under the radar.
by DS2, it was slowly bubbling up to mainstream outlets.
by DS3, everyone and their mom knew about it and it had kinda lost that original mystique.

and thats my unsolicited history lesson as i remember it

 

[Paasei]

Skyrim is endless because of mods.

 

[brenobnfm]

lol Skyrim doesn't even belong in the same sentence, Dark Souls is a GOAT contender, Skyrim is a relic of time with cardboard sword combat and terrible storytelling. Not only Dark Souls is order of magnitudes above as a game, it was also much more influential.

 

[brenobnfm]

So, no idea. But Skyrim is better than Demon’s Souls, I’ve spent hundreds after hundreds of hours in that world, one of my absolute top games.

It really isn't either, Bethesda simply don't have the talent to compete with these games, OG Demon's Souls is still one of the strongest if the not the strongest in many aspects between all From games.

Interesting considering demons souls was labelled as poor man's oblivion at the time.

By people who did not play?

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

i rememeber some people saying that.
lots of people crapped on demons souls. even sony.
poor guy was just misunderstood.

with DS1, rumor was going around that it was excellent but was still largely flying under the radar.
by DS2, it was slowly bubbling up to mainstream outlets.
by DS3, everyone and their mom knew about it and it had kinda lost that original mystique.

and thats my unsolicited history lesson as i remember it

It's true that Sony didn't believe in it, but I remember I picked up DeS back on launch in 09 because Gamespot and IGN both gave Demon's Souls absolutely glowing previews, reviews, and podcast coverage. Eurogamer loved it as well. You didn't get much more mainstream than that back then, as far as video game coverage. (I think X-Play also gave it a good review but I can't find the video anywhere)


I also remember the lead up to DS2 being super hyped by mainstream outlets and streamers alike, with the beta, and the lighting controversy and everything. And it was a big launch event.

I may be remembering that one from inside of my own little Dark Souls bubble though

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

I remember I picked up DeS back on launch in 09 because Gamespot and IGN both gave Demon's Souls absolutely glowing previews, reviews, and podcast coverage. Eurogamer loved it as well. You didn't get much more mainstream than that back then, as far as video game coverage. (I think X-Play also gave it a good review but I can't find the video anywhere)

youre right--i never seen those reviews.

I also remember the lead up to DS2 being super hyped by mainstream outlets and streamers alike, with the beta, and the lighting controversy and everything. And it was a big launch event.

im might be remembering incorrectly, but i felt like DS2 got decent coverage but DS3 got waaay more.
Felt like by DS3's launch, everyone was on the DS hype train, advertisements were everywhere, etc.

and my god, the DS2 lighting downgrade.
it's still rough to see after all this time

 

[AJUMP23]

Dark souls was something new. I was blown away. Skyrim was something perfected. I was blown away.

I voted dark souls.

 

[Grizzled Ghost]

and my god, the DS2 lighting downgrade.
it's still rough to see after all this time

Yeah base DS2 was ridiculous. The game basically didn't have shadows. Luckily there are full lighting engine overhauls these days that really make it look nice.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Dark Souls is the most influential game of the past 15 years. It’s still being imitated, and its core elements are still being implemented in so many games, especially indies.
I can’t really grasp or comment on Skyrim’s impact and legacy, because I never played it. But you know, “Skyrim-like” is a term I’ve never really heard.

 

[Fess]

It really isn't either, Bethesda simply don't have the talent to compete with these games, OG Demon's Souls is still one of the strongest if the not the strongest in many aspects between all From games.

Nah I don’t agree, like at all.

Demon’s Souls is far too linear in structure to compete with Skyrim, and is also highly combat focused while Skyrim is quest focused. In many ways they’re completely different games targeting different audience, but the thread was made this way so here we are.

And no DeS doesn’t come even close to Elden Ring imo so definitely don’t agree that it’s some top FROM game. As said the reason why I never played Dark Souis is because I never finished Demon’s Souls, and the reason for that is because it’s simply repetitive. Sooner or later I always end up in a repeating scenario of either playing an area over and over to reach and finish a boss or a grinding scenario of replaying the same starter area to slay blue knights or whatever over and over to level up, til I’m just plain bored. I don’t think that’s an interesting gameplay loop, or fun.

Elden Ring might push you into replay marathon sessions too, for bosses if you refuse to back down and come back when you’re more powerful or have better gear.
But to level up in ER you can just take a different path to explore and find a dungeon and gain new levels or new gear that way. That’s a big difference between the games. Much better structure as far as I’m concerned. And much more fun. It’s my all time #1.

You can try another area in DeS but it’ll still be a linear thing that gets boring fast if you’ve already been there before, everything is exactly like it was the last time you were there. There is really no way to play it without it getting repetitive unless you’re somehow already king of the hill and beat everything at your first try.

Meanwhile in Skyrim there is no grinding at all, there the main gameplay loop consists of exploration and finding loot and doing quests, the combat is there but not a gameplay pillar in any way. Doing similar quests or visiting the same areas for point A to B to A quests can get repetitive too, but not to the point that it feels linear. And you always have the choice to just wander off and ignore the quest and do something else. I love that open ended structure. It’s why it’s one of my top games of all time.

Skyrim is actually amazing in VR as well, especially after some modding with HIGGS so you can fool around with the physics and grab stuff like in Alyx.

 

[kevboard]

Dark Souls 1 is on a massive tower looking down on Skyrim with a telescope, where it still looks like an ant to it.

 

[Danjin44]

Is that a serious question? Darks Souls without the a doubt.

 

[Rockondevil]

Surprised by the poll to be honest. Skyrim easily for me.

 

[LectureMaster]

when I played World of Warcraft for the first time in 2004.

Damn, I wish I would have known my man back in 2004 and played raid together and roasting the last DPS guy.

 

[Ogbert]

Skyrim.

The first half of DS is God tier. But the second half does fall flat.

They’re both incredible.

I just can’t imagine not playing Skyrim again. The world is perfect.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Dark Souls 1. Not even close. Even unfinished.

 

[NeverYouMind]

I like the middle ground occupied by Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.

 

[GigaBowser]

fat tied with skyrim

Surprised by the poll to be honest. Skyrim easily for me.dar

sekiro amazing buuuut dark souls janky combats nort great ninja gaiden way better skyrim combat is crud buuuut still fun better then witcher 3 and waaaaayy better exploranation then dark souls its all true im sorry my friends

 

[N30RYU]

Dark Souls? Not even Demon's Soul? Anyway Skyrim is a much better game

 

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I'm replaying both on Steam after playing the originals on PS3. Great games. Incredible. Absolute top tier game development and mechanics. It's going to be a long time before we get anything like these two gems.

 

[Kataploom]

Dark Souls 1 is the only game I double dipped and started almost after finishing it the first time. It was a 2 years gap after finishing it on Switch and buying replaying it on PC, it's so good. The 2 year gap is the smallest gap I've ever had for a replay, normally I don't even replay, no matter how good the game is and I do, it's at least games I played when I was a teenager (10-15 years ago).

 

[Rocinante618]

I’ll vote Skyrim. Way more accessible, doesn’t need a controller to play. Enchanting world. Gorgeous. Intriguing plot. Peak fantasy. Freedom. Fun. Special.

Now if you want Skyrim versus Dark Souls franchise, I’ll go Dark Souls as a whole.

Dark souls as a franchise is revolutionary. Especially DS 3. That game was so good, I still remember the goosebumps I had when I got out of the cave and saw Irithyll of the Boreal Valley. Majula from DS2 oh boy.

Fights so supreme I still remember the deaths and victories. Boss names, design and cutscenes more memorable than my relatives. Just from the start Gundyr, Pontiff Sulyvan, Abyss Watchers, Wolnir, Nameless king..list goes on. Gruesome world. Fight for survival. Try again and again. Rise. Victories. Invasions creating lifelong friends and enemies twin. Absolutely special.

This poll is shit. You have one life and if you enjoy video games you have to, have to play both Skyrim and all of the DS franchise ( esp. DS3 ).

At this point play Sekiro and Elden Ring as well. Lol.

 

[DaciaJC]

I’ll vote Skyrim. Way more accessible, doesn’t need a controller to play. Enchanting world. Gorgeous. Intriguing plot. Peak fantasy. Freedom. Fun. Special.

Now if you want Skyrim versus Dark Souls franchise, I’ll go Dark Souls as a whole.

Dark souls as a franchise is revolutionary. Especially DS 3. That game was so good, I still remember the goosebumps I had when I got out of the cave and saw Irithyll of the Boreal Valley. Majula from DS2 oh boy.

Fights so supreme I still remember the deaths and victories. Boss names, design and cutscenes more memorable than my relatives. Just from the start Gundyr, Pontiff Sulyvan, Abyss Watchers, Wolnir, Nameless king..list goes on. Gruesome world. Fight for survival. Try again and again. Rise. Victories. Invasions creating lifelong friends and enemies twin. Absolutely special.

This poll is shit. You have one life and if you enjoy video games you have to, have to play both Skyrim and all of the DS franchise ( esp. DS3 ).

At this point play Sekiro and Elden Ring as well. Lol.

Dark Souls III is criminally underappreciated, always happy to see someone giving it the regards it's due. You have my longsword.

 

[brenobnfm]

Dark Souls 3 is a piece of shit made to fulfill a Bamco contract, games is straight up a patchwork of Souls tropes with retardaded combat, just comparing Dark Souls 1 to 2 and 3 is an insult to the original game.