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Sony’s $200 DualSense Edge for PS5 will have ‘moderately shorter’ battery life
I admire your faith, but no. It won’t be on sale at that steep a discount.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Banjo64
cumsessed
So just checked the battery capacity of each pad.
Dualsense 1500 mAh
Elite v2 2000 mAh
Switch Pro 1300 mAh
So yeah, they should have increased the capacity of the battery (to at least 2000 mAh IMO).
Xbox and Switch are squeezing lots more life out of their batteries than Sony. I wonder what’s more important to the player base, neon lights or longer life?
40 hours per charge on the Xbox and Nintendo pads.
Dualsense 1500 mAh
Elite v2 2000 mAh
Switch Pro 1300 mAh
So yeah, they should have increased the capacity of the battery (to at least 2000 mAh IMO).
Xbox and Switch are squeezing lots more life out of their batteries than Sony. I wonder what’s more important to the player base, neon lights or longer life?
40 hours per charge on the Xbox and Nintendo pads.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Xbox play and charge is the best for me. Costs $30 cdn.
When the battery runs low you can still play while it charges wired. By the time youre done playing it's got more charge in it than it was before.
When the battery runs low you can still play while it charges wired. By the time youre done playing it's got more charge in it than it was before.
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Bartski
Gold Member
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
...what.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Excessive waste. No one plays for 40 hrs straight. PlayStation is much smarter allocating resources to where it matters...superior ergonomics and superior functionality.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
That's true. being able to replace sticks is good. Battery door wouldn't hurt too even if it's still internal battery.
THe problem is, 1 stick module is 20$... so you pay 40$ for a pair.
And in 20-30 years, sony will not be selling stick modules and these will be collectors item lol
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Well it doesn't last me whole day of gaming sometimes and requires charging in the evening. If I forget, I need to play wired next day.
The only excessive waste here is your overthinking it
Bigger battery is better (unless it's heavy)
I have an old one from Xbox One days that still has 20+ hours of life in it's charge.
Those things are awesome.
ProTIP if you have one and it's not holding it's charge or charging, then you clean the end with the contacts with some IPA and it'll be good as new.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Well it doesn't last me whole day of gaming sometimes and requires charging in the evening. If I forget, I need to play wired next day.
The only excessive waste here is your overthinking it
Bigger battery is better (unless it's heavy)
Every product has limitations. PlayStation simply chose the correct limitations as the vast majority of players don't overplay a full charge.
The Dualsense family of controllers is very pro consumer.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I canceled my preorder, in fact I don’t know why I did in the first place.
They should just sell a back button attachment like they did on PS4.
They should just sell a back button attachment like they did on PS4.
sainraja
Member
It would be interesting to know the battery capacity in the Elite, Switch controllers compared to what is inside the Dualsense and now the Dualsense Edge.
I am assuming it is lower on the PS side mostly due to the touch, speaker, light bar, and perhaps the haptics. If not, if they really have been using a smaller capacity one, then it just doesn't make any sense why they won't put in a high capacity one....maybe the size of it but who knows.
I am assuming it is lower on the PS side mostly due to the touch, speaker, light bar, and perhaps the haptics. If not, if they really have been using a smaller capacity one, then it just doesn't make any sense why they won't put in a high capacity one....maybe the size of it but who knows.
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It's not the size of the battery it's what you do with it.
sainraja
Member
I was just wondering about that. Then I wonder if it is because of the size, is the of the 2000 mAh bigger than what they are using?
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The DualSense isn't ergonomic, with all the shitty gimmicks they've jammed into it, it feels HEAVIER than a Series controller even though it isn't. It's because they shit the bed on the weight balance, putting it into the front. The plastic unfinished edges don't even feel good in the hand.
Also saying a long battery life is some kind of waste makes you a fucking clown of a Sony apologist.
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Magic Carpet
Gold Member
The DS has the lowest trade in value of all the controllers at GameStop. A Joycon gets more money.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Dude, I am pro sony, maybe even a fanboy...
And I still see the bad moves.
There is nothing Pro consumer about Pro aside from Pro in the name.
Just as there is nothing pro about 6-8h battery live
sainraja
Member
I don't think he was being serious (I think that is him being sarcastic) and what you are calling gimmicks might not be gimmicks for others.
I like that the controller has a speaker on it and love it when games use it well, same with the touch pad. Everyone's different but there was a time when the second analog stick was an extra thing Sony added, some might have even called it a gimmick, which wasn't being used in games but now look at how it's used.
Ofcourse, there is no way to know what will stick and what won't. I like the extra features the Dualsense has. To each his own.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Let's use a more respectful tone. We're all friends here.
I literally can't feel the Dualsense in my hands. When I pick it up, it literally becomes part of my body. Almost as if the player is a Deus Ex character. I've never thought that about any other controller in my life.
As to your long batter life comment. Having 40 hours on a fresh charge is like driving a Vespa scooter in the Indy 500. I don't need 100 miles per gallon. I need performance, function and ergonomics. PlayStation delivered.
sainraja
Member
You are being serious?
Wow, bad with logic too, the controller does not travel, it doesn't need to. That's a shitty analogy.
Stop defending shitty battery life.
The longer battery life is a nice convince but also it's a positive for the consumer as the average brained consumer doesn't enjoy constantly plugging in a device that's supposed to be wireless. A longer battery life also makes the consumer feel like they have a more premium product, even if they don't, it's a very easy win. Wireless things should remain WIRELESS as long as possible.
BusierDonkey
Member
This is retarded. For $200 the controller should have a really good battery. The Elite S2 lasts around 40 hours on a charge, mine has well over 4000 hours of play time on it since it bought it at launch and it still lasts 40 hours playing games where the rumble motors never stop going. I put it in it's case once a week to charge or when the orange light comes on which means I only have about five hours left, or about the battery like of my DS4.
Ideally they'd have gone with AA/pack options (I prefer Eneloops to internal batteries) but if they're committed to an internal battery for whatever reason having a sub-10 hour charge is nuts.
Battery life is measured in cycles. You have a certain amount of charge cycles before the battery becomes unusable. The more times you charge your battery the sooner it will stop taking a charge.
A battery that needs to be charged once a week will survive a lot longer than one that needs a daily charge.
Ideally they'd have gone with AA/pack options (I prefer Eneloops to internal batteries) but if they're committed to an internal battery for whatever reason having a sub-10 hour charge is nuts.
Battery life is measured in cycles. You have a certain amount of charge cycles before the battery becomes unusable. The more times you charge your battery the sooner it will stop taking a charge.
A battery that needs to be charged once a week will survive a lot longer than one that needs a daily charge.
I don't recall many people complaining about DS4 being too light, but I do remember people bitching about it's shitty battery life.
Sony's weakness is not allowing EASILY USER REPLACABLE BATTERIES and in 2022, it's looks stupid.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
It's just a gamepad. Not a girlfriend.
I find the Xbox controller better like jaysius. The uneven sticks makes sense since most games use the LS to move and face buttons for functions. So your hands are even. Also, having the Sony gamepad have LS at the bottom of the controller makes no sense because almost every game uses LS as default to move. So the natural hand position is to have LS where Xbox's gamepad is.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
Pretty disappointing. I would be happy with a back button attachment. I really want back buttons but I’m not dropping £200 on this. I’ll grab one on sale down the line or buy one of those kits for adding back buttons yourself. They look like you could fuck your controller up pretty easily on install though.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
sainraja
Member
I think, maybe outside of
Men_in_Boxes
, most people would agree that the Dualsense should have a long battery life, even ones that like the extra features. I just wouldn't want Sony to remove them or stop looking to add in new (evolutionary) features to their controllers.
Men_in_Boxes
, most people would agree that the Dualsense should have a long battery life, even ones that like the extra features. I just wouldn't want Sony to remove them or stop looking to add in new (evolutionary) features to their controllers.I remember people complaining but it's been a while. It seems to be the reverse now. But they should offer better battery life. No disagreement there.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I'd never buy a deluxe controller as a standard one is good enough for me.
But if I was paying triple the price (which is insane for Xbox and PS elite controllers), the first priority for me is battery life, then fancy extra buttons. Weight is a non issue for me. Over the years some consoles have light gamepads, some heavy. Who really cares. At least I dont.
When you buy a better cell phone, how often does battery life go down?
But if I was paying triple the price (which is insane for Xbox and PS elite controllers), the first priority for me is battery life, then fancy extra buttons. Weight is a non issue for me. Over the years some consoles have light gamepads, some heavy. Who really cares. At least I dont.
When you buy a better cell phone, how often does battery life go down?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Drizzlehell
Banned
Ok, so instead of 3 hours I will be able to use it for 90 minutes before having to charge it up.
200 buckaroos well-spent.
200 buckaroos well-spent.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Omg that is absolutely embarrassing. GG Sony. Love the bullshit excuse too. I have to recharge my elite controller like once every two weeks. It last aaaages.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Funny that was Jims reaction when they asked
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
sainraja
Member
Haha, I figured he was being sarcastic but did question myself later while considering that he might just continue to 'play' along.
Mr Moose
Member
Yup same, I use my controllers wired, I wouldn't touch this thing at its current price but it wouldn't be because of the shite battery.
Will wait for a big sale.
touchfuzzy
Member
Yuppp. I'd love a PS5 controller that drops the gimmicks and is $30 cheaper with at least twice the battery life.
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