K2D
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-Future-ready (PS5 pro/PS6)
-Foveated rendering (raises efficiency)
I don't see what you mean..?
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Sony says PlayStation VR 2 will have ‘over 20 launch games’ (VGC)
-Foveated rendering (raises efficiency)
I don't see what you mean..?
WitchHunter
Banned
Yeah, ok, but will they also provide sanitary things like branded piss bottle and shitbucket, so we could live inside the vr realm?
CamHostage
Member
Hmm, do they actually mean "launch", or "launch window"?
20 actually seems a bit low for launch window, since that's like most of the first year to a publisher. There should be way more than that lined up from interested PC game developers that couldn't come over for PSVR1, so hopefully it goes beyond that.
20 at day one or Christmas (assuming PSVR2 launches this year) would be pretty good. Even if they're counting existing games with PSVR2 patches, that should still be a good variety to play with there. Not sure how Horizon COTM would do as a launch title, but it's a hot brand with a broad audience so maybe it'll work out. Hopefully a new version of The Playroom / an Astrobot game this time too...
20 actually seems a bit low for launch window, since that's like most of the first year to a publisher. There should be way more than that lined up from interested PC game developers that couldn't come over for PSVR1, so hopefully it goes beyond that.
20 at day one or Christmas (assuming PSVR2 launches this year) would be pretty good. Even if they're counting existing games with PSVR2 patches, that should still be a good variety to play with there. Not sure how Horizon COTM would do as a launch title, but it's a hot brand with a broad audience so maybe it'll work out. Hopefully a new version of The Playroom / an Astrobot game this time too...
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drezz
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Same, hopefully most wil be, but I can see a bunch of them needing a patch to swap out the tracking.
PSVR 1 uses camera poitint at you, while PSVR2 has camera on the headsett it self tracking the controllers and maybe even the lightbar's on Duelsense controller.
If the later, then backwardscompatible would for sure be a small patch to alter it, but not as straight forward as one would hope.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
I would love Returnal in VR. I’d buy a headset to try that.
CamHostage
Member
I didn't see any dates on the show, but would we call PlayStation VR2 "confirmed" for 2023?
Seems unlikely the PS5 port of a Meta Quest game would take any longer than a PS4 port.
Seems unlikely the PS5 port of a Meta Quest game would take any longer than a PS4 port.
Gordon Freeman
Member
No Half-Life Alyx is extremely disappointing
drezz
Member
Would be very nice if it did come to PSVR2 but I can understand Valve if they didnt want to port it to a console.
For the Sake of VR they should, but I can understand them not doing it if they dont.
AGRacing
Member
Captain Toad
Banned
This headset is more powerful than any current set, including the Valve Index. It's not in the same leauge as Quest.
Will there be overlap? Obviously. Beat Saber and stuff will be there, just like games like Stardew Valley are on both Switch and PS5.
is it possible for sony to write an emulation layer or is that a bad idea when latency is priority numero uno? Or is that technically impossible for some reason?
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
But why would you need emulation? It's basically the same tech, software is probably written in the same version of the same language. If you don't want to simply patch it, you could write a translator/adaptor?
CamHostage
Member
PS5 can run PS4 games. That's not the problem. The problem is that the controllers and sensors are different; PSVR is outside-in tracking, PSVR2 is inside-out.
https://www.wareable.com/vr/inside-out-vs-outside-in-vr-tracking-343
Supposedly you could come up with translation systems to adapt the previous way of tracking into this different way, but there are some fundamental differences in how the PlayStation gets its acceleration and positioning data between these two approaches which make it not just "PSVR2 is one-better!" and everything works...
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Shmunter
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All can be translated assuming underlying games rely on the system api to provide the co-ordinates. If the games themselves are somehow managing the raw tracking then it could be an issue.
Freeman76
Member
Its Sony if they can find a way to charge you twice they'll do it
Audiophile
Member
Really would love to see Sony score Alyx for PSVR2 launch.
Horizon, Alyx, GT7VR, Backwards Compatibility (or at least a major push to patch-up the relatively small PSVR1 library) and some good demo experiences.
Horizon, Alyx, GT7VR, Backwards Compatibility (or at least a major push to patch-up the relatively small PSVR1 library) and some good demo experiences.
kyliethicc
Member
1. Horizon VR
2. Astro Bot 2
3. Astro Bot Rescue Mission
4. Gran Turismo 7
5. Resident Evil Village
6. Walking Dead S&S 2
7. No Man’s Sky
8. Beat Saber
9. Half Life Alyx ?
10. Deathloop ?
11. Ghostwire Tokyo ?
12. Avatar ?
13. Call of Duty MW2 ?
14. Job Simulator 2 (or something from that dev) ?
15. new IP (1st party)
16. new IP (3rd party)
17. new IP (3rd party)
18. Hitman Trilogy
19. Resident Evil 7
20. Skyrim VR
21. Moss 2
22. Star Wars Squadrons
23. MLB The Show ?
idk just a guess, maybe GTA5 too
2. Astro Bot 2
3. Astro Bot Rescue Mission
4. Gran Turismo 7
5. Resident Evil Village
6. Walking Dead S&S 2
7. No Man’s Sky
8. Beat Saber
9. Half Life Alyx ?
10. Deathloop ?
11. Ghostwire Tokyo ?
12. Avatar ?
13. Call of Duty MW2 ?
14. Job Simulator 2 (or something from that dev) ?
15. new IP (1st party)
16. new IP (3rd party)
17. new IP (3rd party)
18. Hitman Trilogy
19. Resident Evil 7
20. Skyrim VR
21. Moss 2
22. Star Wars Squadrons
23. MLB The Show ?
idk just a guess, maybe GTA5 too
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Anos Voldigoad
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DeepEnigma
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Rudius
Member
Looks beautiful! The chair looks nice as well. That's exactly what I want from VR: comfy immersion in high quality games!
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
It actually looks cheap but well made. I think this could come in at a good price point. I'm sure it's not final hardware but it looks close.
Sosokrates
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Well, its more sleek then the first gen.
rabbity-thing
Member
Or Sony could just make it so PSVR1 games required the use of the PS5's camera on the ol' TV. Seems like the easiest solution. Why reinvent the wheel for the BC games, just let them pull location data the same way they used to?
EDIT: Nevermind, just noticed the PSVR2 headset doesn't have tracking lights.
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FunkMiller
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Yep. Looks fine. How light and comfortable is obviously much more important. Glad they kept it nice and simple though.
R6Rider
Gold Member
No. PSVR2 has cameras on the headset that tracks your controllers. PSVR used an external camera.
You still want a decent amount of space to move around and not hit stuff (lamps, ceiling fan, etc.). PSVR2 has a way to map out your play area so if you get outside your set area it will let you know.
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Heisenberg007
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No, you can stand (or sit) wherever you want to. Just make sure you have enough room to move around and move your hands around without bumping into stuff.
Camera tracking is inside out, so you don't need to be in front of an external camera.
FYI -- unless you're one of the lucky ones, you will have motion sickness at least in the beginning for games in which your player moves (e.g., Iron Man or Gran Turismo) but won't in games where you don't move (e.g., Beat Saber). Stick through it, and your brain will rewire itself eventually, and motion sickness will go away after a while. It's so worth it after.
Edit: As pointed out by
R6Rider
, by "stick it through" I DO NOT mean keep playing through the motion sickness. Stop immediately. But get back to it later or the next day when you're up to it. You'll slowly build your stamina, and one day it just won't happen. But always take a break when you feel motion sickness immediately.
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R6Rider
Gold Member
Good advice, but I'd also add that it's VERY important to not attempt to play through the motion sickness/nausea. As soon as you can feel anything you should take a break.
Heisenberg007
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
My memory might be deceiving me, but I believe you can. You can also watch movies like you're in a theatre.
The experience (for watching movies) at least wasn't as good for me because of the low-resolution, but I believe PS VR 2's 4K resolution will change that.
Edit: Yes, you can. The experience, however, used to be blurry as I said. It is likely to change with PS VR 2.
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I think it will be much better even at 1920x1080. I read that its at that resolution because any higher (i.e 4k) and the screen would be too "full" and just be uncomfortable to sit and watch (it would be hard to have a 4k flat image considering the 3d nature). Hence why its just a portion of the viewable area at full HD.
I'm no AV expert so I could be talking nonsense.