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Sony wanted to make Crimson Desert a timed exclusive for PS5, but developer Pearl Abyss said no

midnightAI

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Those of you saying Ghost of Yotei, have we watched 1 hour of gameplay? Please send me link so I check it out. Last time I looked I only watched a cinematic trailer. Is that playable?
No but I've platinumed Ghost of Tsushima and this looks like more of the same, GoT was my game of last gen

(you do realise some of that cinematic trailer showed gameplay right? and that it was similar to the first game, just improved, and I'd also say Crimson Desert doesnt look as good as the original Ghost)
 
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DonF

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this is an upcoming game? I swear it sounds like an old game. Such a generic sounding name.
 

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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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Timed 3rd party exclusives basically carried this whole year for Sony outside of Astro Bot. It obviously makes a big difference to some people on here. They basically treat these kinds of deals as if they were Sony 1st party games. We just saw that cringe article from Push Square / IGN bragging about it.

Of course it makes a difference. You just said it yourself in your first line. It's about exclusivity. Nobody cares if it's first or third party.
 
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Fabieter

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Timed 3rd party exclusives basically carried this whole year for Sony outside of Astro Bot. It obviously makes a big difference to some people on here. They basically treat these kinds of deals as if they were Sony 1st party games. We just saw that cringe article from Push Square / IGN bragging about it.

I mean there is a difference between rise of ronin and silent hill. The first deal is okay the second suck asses.
 

yurinka

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What does them wanting to self publish have to do with anything at all?
Nah, there are many AAA, AA and indie 3rd parties who self publish and accept money hats from the console makes.

It just means that the studio considered that they'll make more money releasing in all platforms than accepting Sony's moneyhat. Meaning, they thought Sony didn't offer enough money.

I don't know why they're still wasting money on deals like that. Xbox is dead.
Common sense says they do it because it's a profitable investment for them. Pretty likely also helps them to continue growing their market share vs MS and Nintendo. And in specific case of Korean games, it may help Sony grow in Asia/South Korea.
 
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Funny that Sony are seemingly becoming more aggressive with exclusivity deals even with no competition. Look how many they got this year. I would have thought they would do the opposite. Though it's probably just sony filling in gaps because that know how important exclusive games are to the health of a platform.
 
I'm not buying this.

Unless the money Sony offered in the deal was pitiful, I can't see how a fairly unknown studio whose first console non-MMO game, that is a new IP, wouldn't take an exclusivity deal from Sony. The benefits from Sony's marketing alone would more than make up for any marginal revenue they'd make on the Xbox platform.

The Xbox is basically a platform on life support. It's barely moving consoles at all. And the userbase has been conditioned by MS to wait till games come to GamePass, so buy signifncantly less games.

What does Xbox offer Pearl Abyss that is meaningful other than a shitty tard pack console (the XSS) that will hold back their technical vision for the game?

It would not surprise me to see this game selling something like 8x more on PC than on Xbox. Sony's deal would be essentially free money for Pearl Abyss. They let Sony take the risk marketing the game, get all the up front sales on PC and PS, and then they could just as easily make a later deal with MS to launch the game on Xbox GamePass, because they're more likely to get more in that kind of deal from MS, than relying on game sales on the Xbox platform.
 

Perrott

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Even as someone who currently plays mostly on Xbox Series X, I don’t understand that Sony even thinks about exclusivity deals: Xbox is more or less dead to the main public, there is not much to gain from that exclusivity I would imagine.

The bigger threat could be PC, but that additional market seems to be needed to get the revenue nowadays.
Moving forward, these exclusivity deals with Japanese/Asian games won't be as much about limiting their availability on Xbox for some time as they will be about preventing a simultaneous release on the Switch 2 as well.
What does them wanting to self publish have to do with anything at all?
Maybe, in conjunction to the timed exclusivity arrangement, Sony seeked to publish the PS5 version themselves, as it was going to be the case with the Knights of the Old Republic remake.
 
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Aion002

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Dumb move...

Get money for the 6 months of PS exclusivity while they try their best to make the Series S version playable and then get the gamepass money to release on It.

Well, hopefully they don't delay it on Xbox.... And the sales on the platform are worth it.

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Punished Miku

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Moving forward, these exclusivity deals with Japanese/Asian games won't be as much about limiting their availability on Xbox for some time as they will be about preventing a simultaneous release on the Switch 2 as well.
Most Asian developers will turn that kind of deal down instantly.
 

Cyborg

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Uhm for me a business point of view they should have taken the deal :) I have my doubts sales will reach any meaningful sales on Xbox
 

Punished Miku

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I'm not buying this.

Unless the money Sony offered in the deal was pitiful, I can't see how a fairly unknown studio whose first console non-MMO game, that is a new IP, wouldn't take an exclusivity deal from Sony. The benefits from Sony's marketing alone would more than make up for any marginal revenue they'd make on the Xbox platform.

The Xbox is basically a platform on life support. It's barely moving consoles at all. And the userbase has been conditioned by MS to wait till games come to GamePass, so buy signifncantly less games.

What does Xbox offer Pearl Abyss that is meaningful other than a shitty tard pack console (the XSS) that will hold back their technical vision for the game?

It would not surprise me to see this game selling something like 8x more on PC than on Xbox. Sony's deal would be essentially free money for Pearl Abyss. They let Sony take the risk marketing the game, get all the up front sales on PC and PS, and then they could just as easily make a later deal with MS to launch the game on Xbox GamePass, because they're more likely to get more in that kind of deal from MS, than relying on game sales on the Xbox platform.
It's a big open world single player game. The first we're getting from Korean devs on consoles basically ever. They clearly have aspirations of being the next Elden Ring. Sounds like they're confident in their game getting solid reviews and selling well. Open world games like this have broad appeal on all platforms.

There really isn't a single timed exclusive on PS5 this gen that sold all that well. They've all underperformed. Maybe Sony needs to offer them more money.
 
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samoilaaa

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Uhm for me a business point of view they should have taken the deal :) I have my doubts sales will reach any meaningful sales on Xbox
you think they need sony to make money ? u must be joking

"Black Desert Online has amassed over 55 million registered players across PC, console, and mobile platforms, reflecting its broad appeal and widespread popularity.
The game has generated over €2 billion in revenue since its launch, highlighting its financial success and strong market presence."
 

Cakeboxer

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Common sense says they do it because it's a profitable investment for them. Pretty likely also helps them to continue growing their market share vs MS and Nintendo. And in specific case of Korean games, it may help Sony grow in Asia/South Korea.
Depends on how much those deals are. If they are a couple of 100k, sure nobrainer. If they are in the millions and that's what i think it is for non indies, i don't think it's worth it if your only direkt competitor is dead. And you also always have the risc of a Forspoken. Too bad we never get numbers on those deals except the 100 million for Tomb Raider.
 

Gojiira

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Highly doubtful…Considering how many devs have outright said just how good Sonys deals actually especially compared with Xbox, plus how little games sell on Xbox, PLUS how small the Xbox user base actually is, seems like a stupid decision quite frankly.
 

mckmas8808

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Uhm for me a business point of view they should have taken the deal :) I have my doubts sales will reach any meaningful sales on Xbox

You guys are acting as if GamePass doesn't exist. They also probably want that money from Microsoft too.
 

nial

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Timed 3rd party exclusives basically carried this whole year for Sony outside of Astro Bot. It obviously makes a big difference to some people on here. They basically treat these kinds of deals as if they were Sony 1st party games. We just saw that cringe article from Push Square / IGN bragging about it.
Silent Hill 2 carrying Sony in a year in which Helldivers 2 sold >5M units on PS5 alone (around 3 months after launch) is surely a take.
It's not like Final Fantasy VII Rebirth sold that better compared to Rise of the Ronin or Stellar Blade, either. I still have no idea why you feel the need to being this disingenuous in every PlayStation thread.
Nah, there are many AAA, AA and indie 3rd parties who self publish and accept money hats from the console makes.

It just means that the studio considered that they'll make more money releasing in all platforms than accepting Sony's moneyhad. Meaning, they thought Sony didn't offer enough money.
Right, but that's kinda a whole different thing.
Maybe, in conjunction to the timed exclusivity arrangement, Sony seeked to publish the PS5 version themselves, as it was going to be the case with the Knights of the Old Republic remake.
Now this is something I hadn't considered, could be right!
Good. Fuck this moneyhat nonsense.

Invest that money into insomniac, ND, SSM and GG instead of laying off talented devs you numb nuts.
Third-party relations money doesn't go into PlayStation Studios budget.
 

Fabieter

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hogwarts legacy sold Playstations

Point in case that timed exclusives are not needed when multiplatform doing the job just as good. I like exclusives, I think it gives every platform and gaming as a whole more character. I dont care which platform has them tho but timed exclusives has no value.
 
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