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[Majima Everywhere System]

They locked the rest of the game behind a paywall too.

$17.99 for one month of UBI+, which also gets you the premium content I believe.

 

[JonSnowball]

So you have no idea.

No. Again, all I'm comparing are things that require time, money, and talent to make.


Irrelevant.

You remind me of Randy Pitchford. Similar attitude, similar grease.

 

[Mercador]

How long "the rent" of the game is? Since you own nothing anyway... Looking at The Crew.

 

[RaptorGTA]

Really feels like Ubisoft is nickle and diming as much as possible on this game.

Really worries me cause they'll likely do the same to the next Div game. I really enjoyed the content for Div 1 ans Div 2. Fully supported it. But when the content is done and your holding back for more money. That's something EA would do.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty @ $40 dollars. Yay!

Star Wars Outlaws Jabba the Hutt @ $30 dollars. No!

You people are a strange bunch.

Right? Yeah, pay walls for extra missions suck, but the hypocrisy towards Ubisoft is off the charts on Gaf and most other corners of the internet. The recent trailer that dropped caused a swath of negativity last week and I'm still trying to figure out what about it deserved that kind of reaction. Was it downgraded heavily or something? Honest question as I haven't sat down and really studied the trailer ...if so ok they deserve shit for that.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

PS- were their last two games not pretty good? PoP was a great metroidvania and Avatar was decent and delivered one of the only true next gen games all gen.

I really think the hate is a bit overblown

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Spoiler

Jabba insisted on the paywall himself once he found out what the protag now looked like.....

OMFG

 

[Hawking Radiation]

don't buy it. make these publishers pay.

Haha, there are content creators who will buy it and then justify their decisions to their audience.

Case in point, The Division 2 where they had an outfit (singular) going for $25. Not even a pack or set of costumes but just 1 outfit which was supposed to be a reward for completing a long side mission. Sadly a bunch of people bought it so there's that

 

[rkofan87]

Preorder Cancelled.

not mine just got mine in 130$ day-3 lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[ADiTAR]

Sad, cause the game got such a good reception when they revealed it, and I guess when they realized it might not be 50% in a month after release, they're doing all they can to make that happen. They're actually thinking about us.

 

[Ozzie666]

Such an out of touch company I don't understand how they continue to survive with such poor business practices. Avatar and Star Wars licenses can't be cheap and must really eat into their profits.
This company devies all logic.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Right? Yeah, pay walls for extra missions suck, but the hypocrisy towards Ubisoft is off the charts on Gaf and most other corners of the internet. The recent trailer that dropped caused a swath of negativity last week and I'm still trying to figure out what about it deserved that kind of reaction. Was it downgraded heavily or something? Honest question as I haven't sat down and really studied the trailer ...if so ok they deserve shit for that.

Explain the hypocrisy to us.

 

[Dazraell]

Knowing past Ubisoft games that mission is probably something that will last for 15-30 minutes. I don't think they're completely paywalling Jabba's content as he was in a trailer and past reports mentioned that protagonist will work with him and his palace will be fully explorable. So I assume it's probably just a small side quest among many others jobs for Jabba that you can do for him. That being said, people who came up with this idea to put Jabba's name front and center for exclusive mission to imply you won't interact with hm otherwise have to be morons to think this won't garner controversy

 

[CityHunter1981]

Honestly people who preorder for this are stupid. These are normally boring missions which were cut from the game.

 

[MayauMiao]

I wish they put ugly behind a paywall.

 

[Boneless]

I am surprised people will actually buy this shit game from this shit company.

 

[Denton]

That makes 0 sense.

They both made large AAA SP games and sold additional content.

The only difference is CDPR made you wait and Ubisoft didn't.

Both expansions cost time & money for their respective studios.

I wonder if you are really this braindead or if you are just trolling.

 

[MonkeyClaw36]

Yoho Yoho...............

 

[MonkeyClaw36]

Explain the hypocrisy to us.

He can't because he doesn't know the difference between DLC which comes out 2 years after the initial game and consists of multiple missions (Cyberpunk) and day 1 content locked behind a paywall (Star Wars).

1 is an expension because of the initial game's success complete with a story arc and everything.
The other is a single mission locked away behind a priced Fuck You to potential buyers.

If he knew, he wouldn't have reacted the way he did.

 

[MagiusNecros]

Sad, cause the game got such a good reception when they revealed it, and I guess when they realized it might not be 50% in a month after release, they're doing all they can to make that happen. They're actually thinking about us.

Yeah unfortunately the different editions leading up to $120, battle pass, paywall nonsense, ugly characters, what seems to be another boring sandbox Ubisoft game practically guarantees I'll never buy this game unless it's like $5.

Probably just has a couple big zones where you need to rep grind to progress which just isn't all that interesting. Would rather play as a Sith then a Smuggler anyway.

 

[Puskas]

This is the first Ubisoft game that I've been genuinely looking forward to since 2011 (Driver: SF).
Shame, but not entirely unexpected. The $120 pricing for the Gold Edition can fuck right off as well.

Oh well, I can wait a little bit longer. Should be on sale right around Christmas.

 

[Garibaldi]

"aLL boDies aRE BeAutIfu

This needs to be in the Butt thread. It just has to be. Right now.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Oh man I'm about to defend Ubisoft a bit here..

I mean this is pretty messed up, but if you consider what we know about Disney and how much of a cut they expect from game sales, and how much the game has to sell to meet that demand.. Like this isn't Ubisoft using their own IP. They need to meet their expectations, and the expectations of the IP holder in Disney.

Let's see how the game does. Bottom line. Video game market isn't growing year over year. Inflation is growing. Dev costs are growing. Star Wars IP costs buckets. So, you gotta make that back, so you squeeze your existing customers for more. If this turns off enough people, you won't 'fix' the problem, instead you'll have game companies look to lower those upfront costs. Less developers, less time, less IP projects. More Helldivers, less Spiderman. Not necessarily a bad thing, but everything has a cost bro.

You justify Ubisoft being a greedy cunt on Disney being a greedy cunt. They are perfect examples of companies that should be ignored for multiple reasons, from scamming to disrespecting their fanbase.

And yes, we need more Helldivers and less IPs milked by incompetent fools. A game like Spiderman or Star Wars shouldn't have a budget of 300 million USD. That's insane and customers must not pay for this.

 

[Braag]

Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty @ $40 dollars. Yay!

Star Wars Outlaws Jabba the Hutt @ $30 dollars. No!

You people are a strange bunch.

Phantom Liberty has 25+ hours worth of content. Adding a whole new district with a new questline, bunch of side quests, tons of new weapon, armor and vehicle options and a new ending to the base game. All for 40€.

Ubisoft is offering A MISSION which I doubt is even an hour long for 30€....

 

[FunkMiller]

I am surprised people will actually buy this shit game from this shit company.

They will. And that's what Ubisoft counts on.

Honestly, the worst thing about the games industry is actually the attitude of a large amount of gamers who'll eat whatever shit these people are shovelling.

'So many games, and you choose to buy Ubi.'

 

[ozz ex machina]

Honestly, the worst thing about the games industry is actually the attitude of a large amount of gamers who'll eat whatever shit these people are shovelling.

Welcome to the mainstream. This is mainstream anything. The majority of consumers for most forms of medium will quite literally lap up shit and thank you for it. Just look at how awful most of the big budget TV and Films are. It's because they can get away with it.

The issue is doubly compounded when its an IP like starwars which gets nostaglia and fandom bonus points. Can absolutely get away with murder.

I do also think making games in general is too expensive now. Mostly thanks to bloated staff numbers and the chase for higher fidelity visuals, neither of which are necessary to make great, lengthy games. Honestly AI tools if used correctly will hopefully dramatically reduce the cost of game making and cut down on the amount of useless clowns who work in the industry. Then game prices can be more reasonable.

 

[Roufianos]

Ubisoft + Star Wars, casuals will make it a success (sadly)

Could have said the same about Avatar which seemingly sold like shit. Of course it's going to chart highly in its first week but not guaranteed to e.g. hit 5m sales.

 

[Roufianos]

They will. And that's what Ubisoft counts on.

Honestly, the worst thing about the games industry is actually the attitude of a large amount of gamers who'll eat whatever shit these people are shovelling.

'So many games, and you choose to buy Ubi.'

Ubisoft is a struggling company, not the major success they once were.

 

[Zheph]

Could have said the same about Avatar which seemingly sold like shit. Of course it's going to chart highly in its first week but not guaranteed to e.g. hit 5m sales.

I don't know, Avatar isn't Star Wars but we will see... I am already surprised by how many people are waiting for a discount, if you are not interested just skip it discounted or not

 

[FunkMiller]

Ubisoft is a struggling company, not the major success they once were.

Let's hope so. Very few publishers deserve to go under as hard as Ubisoft.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Let's hope so. Very few publishers deserve to go under as hard as Ubisoft.

I liked Fenix. But it was still full of ubi bloat and mtx and DLC. I paid for none of it but I'm sure a lot of suckers did.

 

[fersnake]

"aLL boDies aRE BeAutIful"

that last pic wtf i literally spilled my coffee, damm gaf

 

[Lunarorbit]

The last time I bought a ubisoft game at full price was child of light.

Their games are so formulaic that I can't justify paying full price.

 

[Dazraell]

Phantom Liberty has 25+ hours worth of content. Adding a whole new district with a new questline, bunch of side quests, tons of new weapon, armor and vehicle options and a new ending to the base game. All for 40€.

Ubisoft is offering A MISSION which I doubt is even an hour long for 30€....

Funny thing is that this guy is so lazy he didn't even bothered to check as Phantom Liberty was 30 dollars and that Gold Edition for Outlaws would be 40 dollars on top of what you already paid for the base game

Not that I want to defend Ubisoft (as I lost any interest in this game and if I will buy it, it will be on a deep sale), but technically speaking, this mission is something that is added on top of the Season Pass. So the main thing you'd be paying for are two unnanounced DLCs, the mission itself is "an extra" that is paywalled behind it

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Oh man I'm about to defend Ubisoft a bit here..

I mean this is pretty messed up, but if you consider what we know about Disney and how much of a cut they expect from game sales, and how much the game has to sell to meet that demand.. Like this isn't Ubisoft using their own IP. They need to meet their expectations, and the expectations of the IP holder in Disney.

I'm seeing this narrative emerge online that this is Ubisoft being greedy, and I just don't think I agree with that take. I think this is more of a.. project that started when the game market was on the upswing. Now it's launching at a time of decline and inflation, and they have a huge hole to dig out of to make back dev cost and appease Disney. In short, this is more complicated than it seems, I think Ubisoft is in an unfortunate position and know that their sales projections at $70 won't make ends meet, so they have to incentivize a percentage of customers toward a higher cost of entry.

Anyway, doesn't matter, if you don't like the practice, vote with your wallet and don't buy the game. But the hard economics around game development and the current market are what they are, these companies have to recoup costs, or lower the costs of development, which means lower quality games. So. idk.. I mean if the base game had everything in it, why would anyone buy the $110 version right? And they need some people to spend more because the general gaming public isn't going to be willing to go above the already steep $70. So how do you get some folks to buy in? You put exclusive shit in it.

Let's see how the game does. Bottom line. Video game market isn't growing year over year. Inflation is growing. Dev costs are growing. Star Wars IP costs buckets. So, you gotta make that back, so you squeeze your existing customers for more. If this turns off enough people, you won't 'fix' the problem, instead you'll have game companies look to lower those upfront costs. Less developers, less time, less IP projects. More Helldivers, less Spiderman. Not necessarily a bad thing, but everything has a cost bro.

The idea that this is because of Disney falls apart when you realize Ubisoft does this all of the time in their games. In the past it’s typically been missions cut out day one and made timed exclusive to PlayStation users, timed exclusive missions or content cut out day one for people who preorder or buy the “day one edition”, and this isn’t the first time they’ve removed content and made it available day one for “gold edition” owners.

Ubisoft is a shitty, greedy publisher.

 

[Krathoon]

God. The pricing on this game is utter horseshit. Here is a video.


I found a cheap key for $62. Still annoyed that the bonus mission is on the season pass. I will probably find a cheap key for that too.

 

[Krathoon]

Also, the key I found already added the game to my account on Ubisoft Connect.

That was great. No waiting for the key.

 

[Complistic]

Ubisoft, lol

 

[mitch1971]

 

[Nydius]

Since Ubisoft+ Premium is on Xbox, I'm not sure I'll pay full price for a single player Ubisoft game again, even if it's something I'm interested in playing day one. Why should I? $17.99 and in a month I can easily go through the Deluxe Edition launch version of Outlaws and probably still have time to spare to go through Prince of Persia The Lost Crown. No point stressing over the "season pass" stuff because no one will know what that will be for months or if it's even worth it. By then, the physical game will probably be on deep sale.

$129.99 and finish the game in under a month or $17.99 and finish the game in under a month?

 

[TrebleShot]

Since Ubisoft+ Premium is on Xbox, I'm not sure I'll pay full price for a single player Ubisoft game again, even if it's something I'm interested in playing day one. Why should I? $17.99 and in a month I can easily go through the Deluxe Edition launch version of Outlaws and probably still have time to spare to go through Prince of Persia The Lost Crown. No point stressing over the "season pass" stuff because no one will know what that will be for months or if it's even worth it. By then, the physical game will probably be on deep sale.

$129.99 and finish the game in under a month or $17.99 and finish the game in under a month?

Spot on, not only that, the premium ultimate edition content is included too and the games I have played on UBI+ with those extras I haven't thought "oh nice that's the ultimate stuff" you don't notice it at all.

 

[Majormaxxx]

How do you know it's "low effort"?

Judge the content based on its merit alone, not some preconceived notion of what you imagine it to be.

Y'all want more AAA SP games, this is how it has to be

bro u 4 real?

Ubisoft missions usually take 30 minutes

Heck, let's make it 60 minutes

Phantom Liberty is 10-15 hours.

 

[Nydius]

Spot on, not only that, the premium ultimate edition content is included too and the games I have played on UBI+ with those extras I haven't thought "oh nice that's the ultimate stuff" you don't notice it at all.

Honestly, it’s basically the same thing I was doing when I used to use GameFly back in the day, except in this case I don’t have to wait for disks to be delivered in the mail and I get the “ultimate” add-on things.

Even if I bought it physical and resold it immediately after completing it, I’d end up spending more than $18 so simply subscribing for a month here or there makes more sense to me.