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[Negotiator101]

What happened to their creative decision? Another Fail!

Improved engine optimisation ever heard of that? and more graphics options is a fail? Oh that's only if it's Xbox related right?

 

[Topher]

They are downgrading number of crowds, their lighting engine and other level of detail which devs poured almost 8 years authoring. No one wants to put in all that effort only to have half the players turn all of that off for 60 fps.

Devs are getting paid and players are doing the paying so players having that option is as it should be.

 

[rickybooby87]

Starfield & 60FPS mode!? PS5PRO redeemed!

 

[nosoynadie22]

Didn't this game run at less than 1440p on series?

very bad of Microsoft not to respect Bethesda's creative vision

 

[adamsapple]

The graphics in this game are so good. The shot of the rover driving in the desert looks gorgeous. Great to see third persopn dialogue scenes. Again, so much detail packed in every scene.

Looks like for performance mode they are downgrading the resolution, lighting, crowd and other level of details. Thats a shame but expected. 60 fps comes at a cost and simply downgrading the resolution in a game like this was never going to be enough.

If the 40hz mode retains everything from the normal 30hz Quality mode, that's probably gonna be my go-to.

They have an incredible lighting engine here, probably one of the best ones for a non-ray-traced game.

 

[Luipadre]

Out of early access soon? After i finished that dreadful main story i was so done with this game.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

But I heard this was impossible due to the outdated CPU and not lazy devs…

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Improved engine optimisation ever heard of that? and more graphics options is a fail? Oh that's only if it's Xbox related right?

It's a joke . . . that creative decision excuse was BS from the start.

 

[SlimySnake]

If the 40hz mode retains everything from the normal 30hz Quality mode, that's probably gonna be my go-to.

They have an incredible lighting engine here, probably one of the best ones for a non-ray-traced game.

yep. its realtime Global Illumination so basically Software Lumen from UE5. I love the lighting in this game.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Thats a pretty meaty update, if you watch the video.

Also at very end of video he mentions they are working on new quests and meaty expansion. One step at a time towards making random exploration rewarding.

This pretty much confirms they are going to build this into way bigger and more detailed than initial release.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

They are downgrading number of crowds, their lighting engine and other level of detail which devs poured almost 8 years authoring. No one wants to put in all that effort only to have half the players turn all of that off for 60 fps.

You mean upgrading the number of crowds since less cornball derpy NPCs running around doing stupid shit is an improvement in this game…

 

[Topher]

It's a joke . . . that creative decision excuse was BS from the start.

Why is that BS? They did not say it wasn't possible. They said it was their choice. I think it was stupid decision, but at least they are not pretending there was some technical reason that it wasn't going to happen.

 

[Negotiator101]

It's a joke . . . that creative decision excuse was BS from the start.

You have know idea the improvements that have been under the hood since release, so what was once true may not be the case now.

 

[mansoor1980]

starfield legendary edition
starfield special edition
starfield anniversary edition

sounds like a good 10 year plan...................................

 

[Lucifers Beard]

I may actually try out this update. I didn't care for the game at all as it just lacked immersion but a few bits here look pretty interesting. The land vehicle is a must too, no idea why that wasn't there on release.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Ok, I'll jump back in!

looking forward to it!

 

[Negotiator101]

Why is that BS? They did not say it wasn't possible. They said it was their choice. I think it was stupid decision, but at least they are not pretending there was some technical reason that it wasn't going to happen.

It was obviously a technical reason, what they meant was they didn't want to compromise the visuals in order to achieve a higher framerate.

 

[Paasei]

Maybe it will be worth playing again. Maybe.

 

[recursive]

i was told that current gen consoles will never run this at 60 fps

I am sure while working on the ps5 port they found some optimizations they rolled back to xbox.

 

[ManaByte]

starfield legendary edition
starfield special edition
starfield anniversary edition

sounds like a good 10 year plan...................................

Exactly. It'll carry them until Elder Scrolls VI. Then Elder Scrolls VI will carry them until Fallout 5. Then Fallout 5 will carry them to Starfield 2.

 

[geary]

Why is that BS? They did not say it wasn't possible. They said it was their choice. I think it was stupid decision, but at least they are not pretending there was some technical reason that it wasn't going to happen.

If i remember correctly Todd said in a interview they couldn't get a stable FPS and decided to lock it to 30. That was the "creative decision". They never said it could only do 30 FPS.

 

[NeonGhost]

Why are they adding all these frame rate options was told 30fps is fine and nothing else is needed

 

[//DEVIL//]

60 hz on Xbox series x means at least it's playable now on that console.

Didn't that bafoon say it's a 30 fps experience on purpose only ? The Todd the frog guy or whatever his name is

 

[damidu]

so it wasn't doing some crazy cpu bound stuff only bethesda games deliver like apologists were claiming.

it was just halfbaked and unfinished. got it

 

[adamsapple]

It's a joke . . . that creative decision excuse was BS from the start.

Not really, the blurb clearly states that things like crowd density will be reduced, these are things that directly effect CPU usage.

 

[Punished Miku]

If i remember correctly Todd said in a interview the couldn't get a stable FPS and they decided to lock it to 30. That was the "creative decision". They never said it could only do 30 FPS.

People are liars and purposely misconstrue basic English

 

[Topher]

It was obviously a technical reason, what they meant was they didn't want to compromise the visuals in order to achieve a higher framerate.

I'm saying it wasn't a technical reason preventing them from doing it. Now they have suddenly decided that allowing lower visual settings is ok. Should have allowed that from the beginning.

 

[Ozriel]

But Series S isn't holding back Series X they said.

How the heck do you get that from the OP?

there’s no framerate or visual feature parity mandate for Xbox.

 

[BosmerCulter]

Really good update but the problem is majority of these changes shouldn't have wait 8 MONTHS.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

so it wasn't doing some crazy cpu bound stuff only bethesda games deliver like apologists were claiming.

it was just halfbaked and unfinished. got it

You can build a much bigger game if you keep building it for a long time.

Starfield, given its scope deserves it.

 

[Stafford]

I took a big break from the game and was ready to get back to it, nice!

Depending on how consistent the fps are and what visual cutbacks there are I might opt for 60fps. But if the difference is too big I'll go for 40fps.

 

[LordCBH]

Bout time they finish this damn game. Now if only they could add a reason to explore.

 

[Draugoth]

Now this definitely should have been in at launch, why it was omitted in the first place is beyond me, seemed obvious

Game was rushed

 

[adamsapple]

Copying a comment someone on Era said.

They're adding game play modifiers which make it seem a lot like the Fallout 4 Survival mode.

And these effect your XP gain as well, so you can be rewarded by a higher multiplier with more difficult options.

 

[Chukhopops]

If i remember correctly Todd said in a interview they couldn't get a stable FPS and decided to lock it to 30. That was the "creative decision". They never said it could only do 30 FPS.

I’m convinced a lot of people were just playing stupid, pretending not to understand what is a completely logical argument.

 

[R3TRODYCE]

Nice update.

Might have to do another playthrough.

 

[Punished Miku]

I’m convinced a lot of people were just playing stupid, pretending not to understand what is a completely logical argument.

100%. As usual.

 

[skyfinch]

This game looks boring at shit and I have no interest in it whatsoever!


Edit, there's rumors it coming to PS5?! Game of the mother fucking year!!!

 

[Jigsaah]

They need to make the guns better and the story better in the expansion later this year. Those were my two biggest complaints. Playing on PC meant no framrate issues, especially with the DLSS mods from day 2.

Better characters as well. Gimme summa dat.

 

[Punished Miku]

Copying a comment someone on Era said.

They're adding game play modifiers which make it seem a lot like the Fallout 4 Survival mode.

And these effect your XP gain as well, so you can be rewarded by a higher multiplier with more difficult options.

Sustenance, environmental damage. Going to crank those up.

 

[Topher]

People are liars and purposely misconstrue basic English

If i remember correctly Todd said in a interview they couldn't get a stable FPS and decided to lock it to 30. That was the "creative decision". They never said it could only do 30 FPS.

Correct, but more than that they locked to 30fps for the higher fidelity. A performance mode doesn't typically have a locked 60fps regardless.

Howard's words:

"I think it'll come as no surprise, given our previous games, what we go for,” Howard said. “Always these huge, open worlds, fully dynamic, hyper detail where anything can happen. And we do want to do that. It's 4K in the X. It's 1440 on the S. We do lock it at 30, because we want that fidelity, we want all that stuff. We don't want to sacrifice any of it.

“Fortunately in this one, we've got it running great. It's often running way above that. Sometimes it's 60. But on the consoles, we do lock it because we prefer the consistency, where you're not even thinking about it.

“And we don't ever want to sacrifice that experience that makes our games feel really, really special. So it feels great. We're really happy with how it feels even in the heat of battle. And we need that headroom because in our games, really anything can happen.”

Bethesda’s Todd Howard Confirms Starfield Performance and Frame-Rate on Xbox Series X and S - IGN

Bethesda confirmed Starfield's Xbox Series X and S resolution and framerate in a new interview with IGN.

www.ign.com

 

[SEGAvangelist]

This update looks dope. I can't wait.

 

[Halo is Back]

Good update overall. Land vehicles are much needed in this game. I know it will probably never happen, but I really want to see a considerable effort to reduce the amount of loading screens, specifically when in space exploration. The sheer amount of loading screens really hurts the immersion.

 

[Mortisfacio]

Really good update but the problem is majority of these changes shouldn't have wait 8 MONTHS.

That's really my only nitpick. By the 8 month mark for games like Witcher 3 we had additional graphical options/changes, changes to leveling/experience, itemization, added stashes, alternative movement style, UI changes for books/items/alchemy/etc., added small changes like roll to reduce fall damage and added the HoS expansion + was 4 months away from the 2nd expansion in B&W.

Starfield, from what I've tracked, has had largely just stability improvements and very minor to QoL.

The actual changes to the experience, the patch cadence is incredibly slow.

 

[SenkiDala]

Hurry to see it getting released on PS5 to watch people praising it "GOTY OF THE YEAR". Will be fun.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

But Series S isn't holding back Series X they said. This would have /should have been there from launch.

The fact they had to get Series S running this game at all probably helps Series X performance.

 

[balls of snow]

City maps not being in at launch is the true wtf moment of Starfield.

 

[LordCBH]

Hurry to see it getting released on PS5 to watch people praising it "GOTY OF THE YEAR". Will be fun.

I will continue to shit on it since that’s what it deserves.

 

[Atrus]

The big one is the land vehicles. This is the only PC game I’ve ever played that has ever put me to sleep while playing it.

At least when you’re on a console, a couch is like a bed so you can nod off.

On PC, the monotonous travel can induce a type of highway hypnosis and it just knocks you out while pressing that W key to the next POI so you can finish the survey.

Even flight sims had autopilot or accelerated time between nav points to reduce the hours of nothing but here you had to run. It’s why I maxed the O2, spam the hell out of Personal Atmosphere, and stock up on those O2 drinks and boosters.

 

[NuclearDiarrhea]

Fine, I'll give it another chance.