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Steam dropping support for Windows 7/8/8.1 on January 1, 2024
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Halo2redvsblue
Member
So many people are mad, It's time to move on from Windows 7 people lol.
Tarnpanzer
Member
This is stupid.
If you got an older PC and don´t want to upgrade to 10/11 you can not play your games anymore.
If you got an older PC and don´t want to upgrade to 10/11 you can not play your games anymore.
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Halo2redvsblue
Member
This happens for everything though, it's because MS stop support for them, people can find a loophole easier that way.
Kataploom
Gold Member
If you're playing on PC your PC must be up to date, those versions lost support from Microsoft and Valve cannot risk some people getting exploited by hackers and sueing them.
Also, Windows 10 is just so good it's basically current Windows XP and 7, people don't want to move on from it, and since Windows 7, new versions hardware requirements have barely increased.
I think the dumb part is keeping an OS that’s no longer receiving security updates connected to the internet.
Your games will continue to run. You just won’t be able to update the Steam client or download new stuff.
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Banned
God I am getting old, and yeah totally move on.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I'm here for the outrage about windows 7.... don't disappoint me Internet!
Kadve
Member
How about adding a legacy client then so you can still download you're already purchased games? I can understand that they consider it a security issue but a simple download only one would be nice.
Sounds to me like it will have a piece of code stopping it from running on those versions.
Sounds to me like it will have a piece of code stopping it from running on those versions.
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How would valve get hacked or are you saying valve would get sued for the users PC getting hacked? I don't think either is plausible to be honest.
They should just stop updated client support and keep your previous games downloadable on older versions of the client for those who want to remain on older windows.
RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
I was using the old archived version of Steam on my Windows XP gaming PC after they ended XP support. Worked up until about 2 years ago when they fully closed it off.
LostDonkey
Member
In theory, can you just buy an 8TF storage and download everything you own before the cutoff?
kicker
Banned
Yeah, they should just let people use the old version but not let them connect tl the internet, if possible. But, eh
Valve publishes their software and hardware stats, and based on the below
It seems like roughly 2% of steam users are still using windows 7/8. And since the last milestone for concurrwnt steam users was something like 31,000,000, it seems that around 500 - 600k people will be affected.
Shame for them
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Who’s keeping some old jalopy of a PC around just for a few old games they bought ages ago?
Your game library isn’t going anywhere. It’s just waiting for your cheap ass to get with the times.
Your game library isn’t going anywhere. It’s just waiting for your cheap ass to get with the times.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
Can't believe folks are on Windows 8.1.
rajkosto
Neo Member
actually best OS for productivity because it has many of the kernel/shell improvements from Windows 10 that people praise (and think that's the first version they came in), while having none of the annoyances like the notification bar, removal of control panel applets and redirecting them to mostly useless whitespace metro Settings, broken thumbnail generation in "Shell Experience Host", etc.
You do need to use a start menu replacement app in it, but you had to do that in Win10 before 1809 anyway, and now need to use in Win11 too.
Dr.Morris79
Member
My desktop is still on Windows 7, rocking a 970
This makes me sad.
This makes me sad.
Eotheod
Member
It's really not that bad on Windows 10. Control panel is legacy, though obviously some elements still work through there. The settings menu sufficiently achieves what everyone needs, the computer's settings. Anything further then those basics are still accessible and are typically circumvented entirely with other software.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
considering their current initiative is to move away from Windows i don't see why they haven't done this already....
but yeah, Windows 10 is good. there's probably only like 10 people in the world who have a PC that can run Windows 7 and steam but not Windows 10 and Steam. just use it FFS, get off decade old software
Dr.Morris79
Member
.Pennywise
Banned
All of that whopping 1.86% Steam users will be outraged!
Now, talking seriously. If you're 15 years old OS levels of poverty, Steam shouldn't be one of your priorities to bother in life.
Now, talking seriously. If you're 15 years old OS levels of poverty, Steam shouldn't be one of your priorities to bother in life.
Unknown?
Member
To what? All windows after that are worse and worse. W11 = Vista 2.0
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
moving on to newer software doesnt exclusively mean windows... and Windows 10 & 11 are decent Operating systems.
If you're still using Windows 7 with the wealth of new software you've had available to you since 2020 that's a you problem and there's no excuse not to hop off that sinking ship. It's one of the best operating systems but it's not contemporary anymore, it's dated and a lot of software and hardware simply refuses to work with it. It's time to let go
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GHG
Member
11 really isn't. In fact it's probably one of the worst OS's they've ever put out, and that's saying something.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
used it for a while and it's literally Windows 10 with a souped up UI. No compatibility is lost, no functions are removed, it's exactly just Windows 10 but with a new DE and some additional features like using the scroll wheel to adjust volume and file explorer tabs. Everything just works
It's not anything comparable to vista
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Sentenza
Member
1- No, they aren't.
2- Even if they were, for the sake of argument, they are still safer than an old unsupported OS that doesn't get fixes for vulnerabilities.
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MikeM
Member
Bring back physical pc games!
In all seriousness, this is the product of digital only. Storefronts tell you what you need.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Time to step out of that ghetto and move the bar forward.
Some things separate from gaming I get but when you're trying to move ahead with updating the standard, I'm all for making this a thing. Not some anti consumer thing like some of the phone manufacturers do but something like this will hopefully increase the adoption of more games with modern features like direct storage. Or who am I kidding and just talking to myself now
Some things separate from gaming I get but when you're trying to move ahead with updating the standard, I'm all for making this a thing. Not some anti consumer thing like some of the phone manufacturers do but something like this will hopefully increase the adoption of more games with modern features like direct storage. Or who am I kidding and just talking to myself now
GHG
Member
Depends on what you use it for. If it's just gaming I can see how it would be fine but from a work/enterprise perspective it's a trash heap.
Not that I care too much anyway, my development machines run ubuntu.
DryvBy
Gold Member
Steam is DRM and requires you to use their client to play your games.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
and it just so happens that you're discussing this topic on a gaming forum talking about a gaming related service which lets you play digitally downloaded video games, who woulda thunk it?!?! For most PC gamers on this board Windows is nothing more than a bootloader to Firefox, Retroarch and Steam. Maybe Discord. to which in that extent it works well. Most people don't care about the poweruser stuff
also why use ubuntu, theres so many better distros out there
yeah just like how games not working on XP after Windows 10's release was a product of digital only.. Or how PS3 games not working on PS2 is clearly just digital gaming's fault... get real
technology changes and older stuff will eventually stop working so well.
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GHG
Member
It's what I'm comfortable with, it works and I know how to get them configured quickly.
At this point it's just a preference for what needs to get done on those machines, even if I'd actually prefer popOS or manjaro if I were to use those machines for more general use.
Fair point on the gaming forum thing, but some people use their PC's for more than just gaming.
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SportsFan581
Member
I get that from a general computing standpoint, however there is a flip side to that. That being that some users like to have multiple VMs running with different versions of Windows because some games don't run as well on newer versions of Windows and then others keep their old computers with the different versions on there to continue to access old software.
Epic should try and nail down support for as many previous versions of Windows as possible, a nice feature for them to advertise now.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Steam dropped support for XP in 2019
Steam Support :: Windows XP and Windows Vista Support
diffusionx
Gold Member
Using Windows 7 today is like using Windows 95 when Windows 7 came out. It's been a long time and without security patches you are setting yourself up for a bad time. Just move on.
Sentenza
Member
As a Steam Deck owner I've been all kinds of impressed with how many games just run without a single issue on Proton.
Hell, if you consider that the main exception is about games that aren't suited for a portable format more than anything, a desktop release for SteamOS would be a fairly viable option.
Still, not one I really feel the strong need for, frankly. Windows works just fine for me.
Trogdor1123
Member
It is still free to upgrade to 10 or 11 right?