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Summer Anime 2017 |OT| More streaming services than shows to watch

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I just want to say how hard right now I'm trying to find a way to recommend Made in Abyss to friends who watch Anime but more conservatively than myself. Because it's such a great show but having kids talk about what they do and get naked isn't exactly easy to wave away for some. I'll pitch it to them but man, I wish I could recommend more Anime without a "but"

I feel like it's a relatively small component though. Sure there's a couple 'stick out' scenes, but I guess just warn them by saying there's a couple questionable scenes and talking the other aspects up.
 
I feel like it's a relatively small component though. Sure there's a couple 'stick out' scenes, but I guess just warn them by saying there's a couple questionable scenes and talking the other aspects up.
They're very eye rolling when it comes to nudity and fan service in Anime. I remember watching code geass with them and I didn't remember half of the embarrassing unneeded nudity in that. I'll pitch it to them, but I'll likely just watch it with them whenever I visit for Halloween as with me they might not get turned off by it and tune out immediately if I attempt to dissuade the thought that it happens often (which it doesn't)

Luckily I don't think they'll care about the chibi art style once they see the fantastical setting and creatures in the later half.
 
They're very eye rolling when it comes to nudity and fan service in Anime. I remember watching code geass with them and I didn't remember half of the embarrassing unneeded nudity in that. I'll pitch it to them, but I'll likely just watch it with them whenever I visit for Halloween as with me they might not get turned off by it and give it a watch from start to finish vs if I just tell them to watch it.

Ah. Yeah your plan is probably best then. I recommended it to a friend. He likely won't watch it, he almost never watches things I recommend (he barely watches anime in general anymore) but I'm fairly confident it wouldn't bother him significantly. \

Watching something with buds I think usually softens whatever troublesome elements there are.
 

LotusHD

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I just want to say how hard right now I'm trying to find a way to recommend Made in Abyss to friends who watch Anime but more conservatively than myself. Because it's such a great show but having kids talk about what they do and get naked isn't exactly easy to wave away for some. I'll pitch it to them but man, I wish I could recommend more Anime without a "but"

My friends ultimately liked it, with one planning on reading the manga, but damn, they were rightfully giving me side-eye in the later episodes (I recommended it after the first episode). I mean, I had no fucking idea, but yea, it was an awkward conversation... I most likely would not have recommended if I had watched the whole thing first.

Certainly won't now, too awkward of a caveat.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Don't do it man. You don't need validation from normies.

If/when Dungeon Meshi gets an anime you can recommend that 100% safely.
 

Sterok

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Aikatsu Stars 75

Close off this half of the season with the Kasumis. Does the idol world have no concept the term a day off? Actually that might be the case. So Asahi always was the bullied one of the family. Or maybe not since he seemed happy being in Mahiru's clothes. Always nice to get a conversation between Mahiru/Laura. They're one of the better pairs. More skydiving? Kaede, what have you done to this franchise? Oh hey, a surprise birthday party that works because it's being thrown a month early. That's new.
 

pbayne

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wwaaaa There's another Garo anime coming next season. Hope someone picks it up.

That with infi-force, just because, osomatsu, kino, pingu. jaden smith anime and Gintama(meh dont care about it anymore but ill probably watch it) seasons looks kinda decent.
 
Jupiters situation in Side-M has always followed on from either the events of the iM@S2 game or the previous iM@S TV anime, when they were the rival characters. No real change here, though this episode does also happen concurrently with the iM@S movie (not particularly relevant beyond being why Haruka is a little less chipper than normal)

Did the president treat only Jupiter bad or the other groups too?
 

Some Nobody

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Maybe.

I don't hate it but holy fuck it has a lot of flaws.


Part of the reason I haven't written it yet is because my writeup of that segment is going to be equally as long and drawn out.

That's a pretty high bar to clear lol. I'm not bothered by criticism, but that doesn't mean it'll be true. xD

That ain't HxH tho, but I'd be curious as to what he has to say lol

If he really wants it to take off, post a thread, and talk mainly about the Chimera Ant arc.

If your answer isn't Yu Yu Hakusho I'm not sure what we're doing here. I guess Brotherhood is an acceptable response too?

The 2011 Hunter X Hunter anime is not without merit, but as a whole it is inferior to the 1999 anime.

...You did this for FMA too. Do you like being wrong, or do you just think older = better?
 
...You did this for FMA too. Do you like being wrong, or do you just think older = better?

Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 being better than Brotherhood isn't an opinion; it's a statement of fact. The original FMA anime is far superior to both the manga and Brotherhood.

As far as Hunter x Hunter goes, the 99 anime is clearly better at the stuff that both anime adapted, although it's missing the best arc of the series since it ended before the Chimera Ant arc.
 

Qurupeke

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Just to make sure, should I watch the prequel OVAs of Magus Bride without prior knowledge of the series, or go straight to the 24 episodes series? Is there any merit in watching them later?
 
That's a pretty high bar to clear lol. I'm not bothered by criticism...but that doesn't mean it'll be true. xD



If your answer isn't Yu Yu Hakusho I'm not sure what we're doing here.



...You did this for FMA too. Do you like being wrong, or do you just think older = better?


I still believe the original FMA is better than Brotherhood.

It was more emotional and had less unneeded comedy.
 
Why's 1999 so much better? Not that I'm doubting you, but since I can't watch it legally I can't really compare the two. Well that and I kinda don't have time/the will to try and squeeze it in.

To sum things up quickly: the 1999 anime has a more atmospheric and somber presentation, as well as adding and adjusting material to flesh out its characters in a more reflective manner. The 2011 anime is a competent but less refined and more generic adaptation, especially in its early going.

...You did this for FMA too. Do you like being wrong, or do you just think older = better?

No, I don't think older is automatically better. For example, Space Battleship Yamato 2199 is a superior series to the original Space Battleship Yamato. In the cases of Hunter X Hunter and Fullmetal Alchemist, however, their first anime adaptations are superior to their second, for very similar reasons.

Just to make sure, should I watch the prequel OVAs of Magus Bride without prior knowledge of the series, or go straight to the 24 episodes series? Is there any merit in watching them later?

I would recommend skipping the prequel OVAs and going straight to the TV series. The OVAs are OK to watch on their own, even though their framing device expects knowledge of the manga, but the TV series is a much better starting point.
 
Just to make sure, should I watch the prequel OVAs of Magus Bride without prior knowledge of the series, or go straight to the 24 episodes series? Is there any merit in watching them later?

I told Narag this but the OVAs are a prequel to the anime series. It's good in adding some back story for Chise the main character and her reasoning in the TV anime as to why she does something in the first episode. However, there are some stuff it may spoil if you haven't read the source material. Plus you may be a little lost.

Tbh you can watch the OVAs before the TV anime with no problem. The things it may spoil ain't that much to begin with. So it doesn't hurt to watch the OVA first. In a way it can help give you a understanding of the series. You can wait to watch the OVAs or just watch it before the anime, it does not matter.

Edit: The music in the OVAs is really amazing.
 
I started "Welcome to the N-H-K" yesterday. It seems promising.

You're in for a hilariously depressing time.

One Piece 807-808 hour long special

Toei exec: We need to line up a One Piece special to go with our Dragonball Super Special. I know, the Sanji vs Luffy "fight" is coming up
Toei worker: But there clearly isn't enough material to cover to make that into a one hour special
Toei Exec: Don't worry, just make over half the special a recap
Toei Worker: But then why even make it a special? And are there even enough relevant scenes to recap for that?
Toei Exec: Just recap a few of the scenes multiple times. Hell, I bet you can fit the scene with Luffy asking Sanji to be his cook into the special like 5 or 6 times easy
Toei Worker: This seems like a horrible idea that will only alienate the fans of the series
Toei Exec: Fuck the fans I want money
Toei Worker: Can we at least get a decent animation budget to work with to make the episode as a whole look nice?
Toei Exec: You can get enough budget for about 3 minutes worth of decent animation
Toei worker: But...
Toei Exec: 2 minutes of decent animation. Now get to work

This is why I wasn't sad when One Piece got removed from Toonami. People still complain about it but they have no idea how the pacing of the series goes to utter hell.
 
I still haven't caught up with Gintama so I probably won't be able to watch this new season which sucks.

Gintama for me is the undisputed king of anime comedy.
 

Chase17

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Ballroom 13
Chinatsu/Fujita dynamic bringning some new life to the show. RIP Hongo's back.

Gintama 100/Gintaman 001
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Gin makes for a great manga editor. Yamcha not even getting respect here.
 

DiGiKerot

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Did the president treat only Jupiter bad or the other groups too?

The president you saw treating Jupiter badly was Kuroi, the president of 961Pro (Kuroi Productions). He's kind of a self-conceited dick who is more preoccupied with being an ass towards 765Pro than anything else. Jupiter was the only group 961 were producing in aniM@S.

Jupiters whole arc in iM@S2 is them coming to realise that Kuroi was kind of an ass who was lying about the way 765Pro went about working in the business.
 
Randomly binged New Game! and it's kind of..good? It's not the video game Shirobako I'd have liked but it's pretty entertaining. The blatant fan service is awful but I like the characters and it's moe as fuck. Sometimes you just need some sugar. Nene however, is way too much sugar and her VA is grating.

Hifumi is clearly the best girl. Hope to see more of her in S2.
 

Qurupeke

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I would recommend skipping the prequel OVAs and going straight to the TV series. The OVAs are OK to watch on their own, even though their framing device expects knowledge of the manga, but the TV series is a much better starting point.

I told Narag this but the OVAs are a prequel to the anime series. It's good in adding some back story for Chise the main character and her reasoning in the TV anime as to why she does something in the first episode. However, there are some stuff it may spoil if you haven't read the source material. Plus you may be a little lost.

Tbh you can watch the OVAs before the TV anime with no problem. The things it may spoil ain't that much to begin with. So it doesn't hurt to watch the OVA first. In a way it can help give you a understanding of the series. You can wait to watch the OVAs or just watch it before the anime, it does not matter.

Edit: The music in the OVAs is really amazing.

Alright, thanks. Seems like I'll wait then.
 

striferser

Huge Nickleback Fan
Diamond is unbreakable live action
First of all, let me say that this is not a good movie. BUT, i feel entertained during the whole movie, so there's that.

Turning ridiculous manga such as Jojo is no easy task,even for a profilic director such as Takashi Miike. Big boy, he manage to nail the horor aspect right,and also the cheesy and humor.
Yukako interaction with Koichi is funny, and the guy who play as Koichi really know what kind of movie this is. He expression and acting is over the top,which really help.

Setting, i don't know what Miike got in mind when he adapt this movie, one of the strangest decision was making Morioh based on a spanish city. The school looks like cathedral, and the climax of the show is happen in a very european mansion full of naked bust.

As for the plot, the show basically adapt the beginning up until they fight Nijimura brother,but with a twist ending. The movie decide to add more depth to Josuke and his grandpa. Basically, turning his grandpa as the uncle ben of this movie and making this as the origin as Josuke decide to become the guardian of Morioh.

Now, the action part... well,it's jojo. Thr cheap chgi really sucks, but seeing Jotaro and other make a pose before showing their stand is both hilarious and cringey.

The movie is definitely not a newcomer friendly. Everything happen so fast, and there's almost zero explanation for Stand other than that it's a supernatural being that can do insane stuff.

Honestly,i enjoy it,but i'm not sure i can recommend this to new comer or fans alike. If you want to see some ridiculous b horor action movie, then go watch this. This is really turn your brain off kind of movie
 

Ascheroth

Member
I still haven't caught up with Gintama so I probably won't be able to watch this new season which sucks.

Gintama for me is the undisputed king of anime comedy.
I have bad news for you.

Tbh I think that Gintama isn't really the same anymore after it went full-on serious and with the new studio/director.
I think its fine in the manga, but the anime just doesn't have the direction and style to carry that seriousness and it's just another 'competent' shonen adaption.
I'm not even caught up with the anime and my reaction to seeing a new season coming is 'I see.'.
 

phaze

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Zaregoto 08 END


Nisio'd again ...

I'm not quite sure what I expected after the climax and resolution of mystery in the previous episode but it certainly wasn't a reopening of a seemingly shut case (after long in-universe passage of time) and adding another 2 layers to it.

At the same time, besides some leaps of Iogic in the mechanics of the mystery, I have to take issue with certain character actions. In previous episode someone stated " You're all insane" and especially now that all is in the open, it's hard to disagree with her.
The culprit gets to walk away scot free despite being unmasked because
no one seemingly gives a damn. While this ties directly into the wider commentary on "geniuses", the disconnect between these characters actions and what you'd imagine to be an "ordinary" response to the situation in question is still something I'm not quite able to bridge or accept without unease.


I must say I enjoyed the protagonist, the narrator a lot. This being but the first part of the cycle, there's still a lot to find out about him or about his relationship with Kunagisa but the story establishes well just what sort of person he is and I found his entire manner both refreshing and entertaining,
jaded and depressing as it was.

Technically, I thought the storyboarding was pretty mediocre and the ep as a whole looked pretty cheap. I guess there's a finite amount of shots you can employ to show a +20 minute car drive but even after that, the final monologue employed the rote "man drowning in water" imagery. Earlier episodes did better to my mind.

For all my gripes, the characters&dialogue are still great, the intrigue keeps you guessing so this is absolutely one of stronger series of the year and provided that you're fond of Nisio's style of writing, something worth checking out.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Is there like, a reverse Makoto who's really girly?
 

blurr

Member
Made in Abyss 11-12

I've been constantly hooked to this since Ozen episodes, I'm glad they also included a Kemono Friends character. She's the most reassuring entity in the otherwise hostile depths of the Abyss, a much needed mental refuge after the events of the 10th episode. As to where their journey will head to, I am very keen on watching that last episode.

Mitty and Nanachi's story turned out to be very saddening and there's a sense of helplessness to the whole situation that makes it all the more tragic. If things didn't look bad enough for all the kids in this show, we have an outbreak of a new kind of disease, one that kills you on your birthday.... and five kids in an orphanage already died. I have no idea about its relevance to the on going events but I am not sure if I am more intrigued or horrified.
 
I have bad news for you.

Tbh I think that Gintama isn't really the same anymore after it went full-on serious and with the new studio/director.
I think its fine in the manga, but the anime just doesn't have the direction and style to carry that seriousness and it's just another 'competent' shonen adaption.
I'm not even caught up with the anime and my reaction to seeing a new season coming is 'I see.'.

The new season is covering the unadapted comedy chapters.

Also I have enjoyed the serious arcs of the manga. It only makes sense it continues the with more seriousness considering the series is coming to a close. Also I stopped watching at the 2016 version because I got busy, but to me it's still the same old Gintama even with the serious arcs. I mean it sucks for the people who love a lot of comedy, but it still has some of that. For a anime that has been going on for 300+ episodes it's consistency has been amazing.
 
I have bad news for you.

Tbh I think that Gintama isn't really the same anymore after it went full-on serious and with the new studio/director.
I think its fine in the manga, but the anime just doesn't have the direction and style to carry that seriousness and it's just another 'competent' shonen adaption.
I'm not even caught up with the anime and my reaction to seeing a new season coming is 'I see.'.

That's kind of also how it is in the manga though. It pretty much dropped the episodic comedy arcs and went into long-form story-lines.
 

SOLDIER

Member
So can I skip one of the episodes of the One Piece "special" to avoid the recap crap, or is it spread out during the important bits?

I bet it's the latter.
 

Chase17

Member
So can I skip one of the episodes of the One Piece "special" to avoid the recap crap, or is it spread out during the important bits?

I bet it's the latter.

It's kind of both. 807 is pretty much all flashback with one funny Chopper scene. 808 has all the important bits, but also has a decent amount of flashback.
 

Ascheroth

Member
The new season is covering the unadapted comedy chapters.

Also I have enjoyed the serious arcs of the manga. It only makes sense it continues the with more seriousness considering the series is coming to a close. Also I stopped watching at the 2016 version because I got busy, but to me it's still the same old Gintama even with the serious arcs. I mean it sucks for the people who love a lot of comedy, but it still has some of that. For a anime that has been going on for 300+ episodes it's consistency has been amazing.

That's kind of also how it is in the manga though. It pretty much dropped the episodic comedy arcs and went into long-form story-lines.
Eh, I like it in the manga well enough (I'm like half a year behind tho), but the anime isn't good enough to make want to rewatch all of that, which I couldn't say about the comedy stuff and the short serious arcs.
But if the new anime is comedy again... But then again if it's the same director as the previous two seasons..
 

NeonZ

Member
Gin makes for a great manga editor. Yamcha not even getting respect here.

Yamcha becomes pretty much a recurring joke in Gintama after that episode.

I'm not even caught up with the anime and my reaction to seeing a new season coming is 'I see.'.

The new season is adapting the comedic stories they skipped before though. But, yeah, still the same director from the last two seasons, who wasn't particularly good even when they were adapting comedy. They were competent adaptations, but added few new jokes and even messed up a couple of them.
 

zulux21

Member
As far as Hunter x Hunter goes, the 99 anime is clearly better at the stuff that both anime adapted, although it's missing the best arc of the series since it ended before the Chimera Ant arc.

but 1999 has yorknew.
and greed island right.

so it has both the best and second best arcs.

not sure what the ant arc has to do with that. as that is clearly the third best that was adapted :p
 
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