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[BennyBlanco]

What was misinterpreted?

The leaks, obviously

Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart sold over 4 million units/made profit for Sony on a $81m budget [Up: June 2023]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/18lums9/list_of_insomniac_games_budgets_and_roi_for_miles/ Game earned only $73m in revenue while it costed a whopping (for this type of game) $81m to make. Shame that people didn't invest in imho the one and only "true" next-gen -in...

www.resetera.com

 

[jm89]

The leaks, obviously

Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart sold over 4 million units/made profit for Sony on a $81m budget [Up: June 2023]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/18lums9/list_of_insomniac_games_budgets_and_roi_for_miles/ Game earned only $73m in revenue while it costed a whopping (for this type of game) $81m to make. Shame that people didn't invest in imho the one and only "true" next-gen -in...

www.resetera.com

Yes there was a leak with alot of information.

Now which bit of the leak did the tweet say was misinterpreted?

Was it the $8 million loss or that it didn't actually lose that?

 

[TheKratos]

Damn I could've donated them that money and save them a lotta time and effort.

 

[JaksGhost]

Yea, did you? Everyone was saying this morning that it lost 8M but apparently it was misinterpreted. Nobody is a clown here except you.

Ratchet made negative money and is getting another sequel

You're included in that everyone buddy.

 

[Freelance Yakuza]

The leak has just occurred, and there is a lot of information to be analyzed. The best course of action is not to treat each new piece of news as definitive, the situation is still unfolding.

 

[EDMIX]

Can they? Maybe MS still has the rights?

Nope.

Insomniac owns the IP, Sony bought them.

The whole reason behind MS even publishing was that Insomniac would retain the IP.

Which is funny cause ultimately, Sony still got what they wanted lol


In terms of the 8 million from Ratchet, I'm not sure how Sony sees a lot of this, like if this is something they factor end of the generation or from IP to IP, as the fact that they greenlit another Ratchet, shows they may not really even give a fuck lol

 

[BennyBlanco]

Yes there was a leak with alot of information.

Now which bit of the leak did the tweet say was misinterpreted?

Was it the $8 million loss or that it didn't actually lose that?

Go read the post on resetera. Some redditor misinterpreted it when all the leaks were first coming out.

You're included in that everyone buddy.

No shit. I just read it this morning like everyone else did.

 

[MarkMe2525]

Still more than it deserved.

Worst game they've ever made by a country mile.

And it's their best game imo...

I love Neogaf

 

[MasterDerico]

I love Neogaf

I think im not alone on that...

 

[MarkMe2525]

I think im not alone on that...

I don't think you are either.

Edit: i was agreeing with you

 

[genesisblock]

If this is true then it's such a shame. I just bought the Steam version last month and I'm enjoying the grind gameplay loop - basically Tony Hawk with guns. But it is a terrible PC port, not gonna lie.

 

[ShadowkillXNA]

You're perfect gamepass material.

We already have one salty popsicle too many here.
Knock it off.

 

[Gojiira]

Well go Xbox,go broke…

 

[Goalus]

Ratchet made negative money and is getting another sequel

Well go Playstation, go broke...

 

[Drizzlehell]

I guess it's not surprising considering that it was very "meh" and served as an exclusive launch title for one of the most bungled console releases in modern gaming.

 

[Kerotan]

Ratchet made negative money and is getting another sequel

It was a launch title though and the ps5 was extremely supply constrained. It was never gonna sell to it's potential.

 

[Mr Moose]

Well go Playstation, go broke...

You probably should have caught up with the other posts instead of making yourself look silly.

 

[Ceadeus]

That's sad because it's a really good game and unfortunately we're probably never getting a sequel, let alone a 60fps boost.

I remember something neat while playing that no other developer tried before. You would sometime get to a building in game that had giant TV that played recording of the developer talking about the game and how awesome you are, thanking you for playing. That's pretty awesome if you ask me.

 

[MasterCornholio]

This is confusing me.

Did somebody fake some numbers about Rift Aparts sales?

 

[chromatic9]

Go Switch, get rich.

 

[Mr Moose]

This is confusing me.

Did somebody fake some numbers about Rift Aparts sales?

It was a projection. It also had "sales" for Spider-Man 3.

It made $145M on PS5 during whatever time frame this was:

 

[MasterCornholio]

It was a projection. It also had "sales" for Spider-Man 3.

It made $145M on PS5 during whatever time frame this was:

I guess it all depends on what the costs of Rift Apart were. If it's 81 million and they made 145 million in revenue then I guess its possible they made a profit.

 

[poppabk]

I guess it all depends on what the costs of Rift Apart were. If it's 81 million and they made 145 million in revenue then I guess its possible they made a profit.

Yeah if that table is projections then we dont know the budget. It's weird though because that projection is almost spot on with units sold but is off by 50% on revenue.

 

[BobLeeSwagger]

So they lose even more money to put a 60 FPS update on this game?

 

[DR3AM]

I get more in food stamps every month

 

[Portugeezer]

I thought this thread said million and thought I was going crazy.

But damn.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Never cared for it.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

As I understand it game devs fund their next game with the profits of the last game.

I wonder if we'll see more games becoming "early access" titles because of increasing development times.

 

[phaedrus]

There's an inherent value in these games besides profit margin. These are (or were) the type of games that sell systems on a entry level.

Exactly, don't know why folks here suddenly forgot this.

Shu Yoshida said it as much when he was the WWS boss:

Sony: Most Playstation First-Party Games Are Not Profitable

Sony heavily invests into its own first-party studios to develop games for the PlayStation 4, PlayStation 3 and PS Vita. So, it may be surprising to learn that the majority of those games aren’t profitable for the company. In fact, Sony Worldwide Studios President Shuhei Yoshida recently...

www.inquisitr.com

 

[phaedrus]

It kept their devs working and paid, so be happy.

Yeah I recall they were having a rough patch then.
Ted Price seems like one of the few genuine good guys in the industry, so I'm glad the game helped them keep their studio lights on.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Following the recent devastating leak from a ransomware attack, Insomniac Games’ future has been laid out for the internet to see. Everything from in-development games to the firm’s internal, aspirational roadmap, and employee information was released by malicious operators who attempted to secure millions of dollars for the data.

In a financial document, the development costs, sales, and shares for every game Insomniac has worked on for years were revealed in full. It was noted by eagle-eyed gamers that Sunset Overdrive, the 2014 game co-developed by Insomniac Games, has netted the company just $567 in profit since it was released.

Sunset Overdrive Made Insomniac Just $567 Profit

It has been revealed that Sunset Overdrive made Insomniac Games just $567 since being released back in 2014, but why?

insider-gaming.com

They should be thankful that they received money.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

Damn I could've donated them that money and save them a lotta time and effort.

'head tilt'

You understand that Insomniac devs learned much of the skills they used to make Spiderman on this game, right?

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

I contributed those 7 dollars in the PC version.

 

[ElRenoRaven]

Kind of sad to see. I actually remember Buying it back in the days when it was first released and it was a lot of fun. Always kind of wondered what another one would have looked like. Sadly if that's all the profit they made then no wonder they never made another.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

??? I have both, i play the games not onsoles, i drink the tea, not the cup.

Cool, bet it got you an award.

Just saying the game likely could've gotten more profits. Heard good things about it, shame it was shackeld by Xbox.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Thats $8 million more than the last Ratchet & Clank netted. Impressive.

The $8 million loss was old data when Rift Apart had 2.1 million sales projections (not actual sales).

The game actually sold 2.7 million sales (as of February-March 2022), exceeding initial projections, according to more recent leaked data.

The additional 600,000 copies, even at an average price of just $29.99, would mean an additional $18 million. That means Rift Apart netted a profit of at least $10 million or at least 1,763,570% higher than Sunset Overdrive's profit -- even before accounting the additional copies Rift Apart would have sold in the 20 months since then.

 

[DenchDeckard]

The humour didn't land, but the game is genuinely great fun with a good premise.

The music layers kicking in as your combo increased.....yeah it was a great game. Fond memories.

Insomniac are great!

 

[wolffy66]

The game was just corny

 

[DonJimbo]

Sad to hear that really loved Sunset Overdrive
If it was not on the XBone and released on the PS4 it would sell more
Jimbo rerelease the game as a remaster on the PS5

 

[Krappadizzle]

Great game. Massively underappreciated. Even got a legitimate Neogaf shoutout. Wish it had open-world co-op, would have been the real boost I would have loved. Wish it caught on, it was such a fun game to actually play.

 

[Edder1]

That's $8 000 567 more than Ratchet

 

[Sentenza]

Given that I thought it lost money, it's not that bad.

"Breaking even" may not be a businessman's dream, but it's far from a bad outcome for a studio: you kept your employees fed for the two-three years they worked on something, for a start.

 

[Filben]

Still glad they made it. Enjoyed it thoroughly on PC and I'm still playing short sessions from time to time. Liked the humour and many cutscenes and the gameplay was pure fun.

 

[Heisenberg007]

That's $8 000 567 more than Ratchet

Nope.

The $8 million loss was old data when Rift Apart had 2.1 million sales projections (not actual sales).

The game actually sold 2.7 million sales (as of February-March 2022), exceeding initial projections, according to more recent leaked data.

The additional 600,000 copies, even at an average price of just $29.99, would mean an additional $18 million. That means Rift Apart netted a profit of at least $10 million or at least 1,763,570% higher than Sunset Overdrive's profit -- even before accounting the additional copies Rift Apart would have sold in the 20 months since then.

 

[IYAOYAS2019]

That's 567 dollars more than I have right now. LOL

 

[Moses85]

Can they? Maybe MS still has the rights?

MS owns the rights, yes.

 

[Dazraell]

Ooof, that's rough. Seriously though, I've played Sunset Overdrive a few years ago and I loved it. An early beginning wasn't great, but game quickly picked up and I had a blast playing it

 

[MasterDerico]

Cool, bet it got you an award.

Just saying the game likely could've gotten more profits. Heard good things about it, shame it was shackeld by Xbox.

Maybe it's a niche game, does not matter the console.
Xbox was at the beginning. Was one of the first games...And, to be honest, ps4 was a baby yet in terms of games.

I like waaay more Playstation consoles, im just saying.

And u got an award to say how things should be done 10 years later.
Visionary! Congratulations!

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Maybe it's a niche game, does not matter the console.
Xbox was at the beginning. Was one of the first games...And, to be honest, ps4 was a baby yet in terms of games.

I like waaay more Playstation consoles, im just saying.

And u got an award to say how things should be done 10 years later.
Visionary! Congratulations!

We're discussing profits of game produced from Insomniac, which has always been associated with Playstation.

They would've likely made more on Playstation, as clearly releasing a game on Xbox only made them $567 profit.

It wasn't even worth it, especially since they since got bought by Sony.

 

[CuteFaceJay]

Million?