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Tales of Arise Review Thread
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Danjin44
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If you have high end PC then I guessing that, I don't think there is going to be much difference between PS5 and XSX.
West Texas CEO
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Miyazaki’s Slave
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Demo sold me...psyched for tomorrow/Friday!
Hestar69
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I really like Berseria
CGiRanger
Banned
It was better than Zestiria at least in everything but music.I really like Berseria
Zestiria's only saving grace was the soundtrack by Go Shiina. You can now recognize his work and the influences from Zestiria in the popular Demon Slayer anime as he co-composes the OST with Yuki Kajura.
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TheDuskwalker
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Didn't realize OG Vesperia on 360 reviewed worse than the remastered version. Not surprising given what happened with the 360 version.
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MagiusNecros
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Berseria was good though. Story too. Especially with Magilou and the spellchains.
Tales of Arise will do decent I think but I don't like the look, the lack of a victory screen and I feel the super moves break the flow of combat too much.
Tales of Destiny DC and Berseria will remain in my favs and the Velvet is a rather good character.
Best combat is probably still Tales of Graces F.
Though I think true Tales games quality is whenever devs that are from Team Destiny is when the combat shines. Team Symphonia and Destiny merged but you can just tell when the Team Destiny people do the combat system.
CGiRanger
Banned
By the way, is Sakuraba still composing the soundtrack for this? I was lukewarm on his Berseria OST and thought it a big downgrade from Go Shiina's Zestiria OST. It just feels like sadly Sakuraba's lost his edge in terms of composing this series.
With this track for instance, I felt he got confused and thought he was composing for Dark Souls and not Tales
With this track for instance, I felt he got confused and thought he was composing for Dark Souls and not Tales
Hestar69
Member
I've never played Zestiria even though its sorta a prequel 1,000 years in the past (I'm prolly wrong I forget) I do own it,I'll play it one day. But I had fun with berseria and glad arise is looking good aswell.
JimboJones
Member
Haven't played a Tales since symphonia but the new look and positive reviews I think I'll need to give it a go sometime.
Little Chicken
Gold Member
Sounds like there's a lot of grinding?
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
This is literally perfect. I can skip all of them instead of past ones where I'd suffer through this crap for a few deep ones with good character interactions.
Sounds like an upgrade to me.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
While the anime for berserk is a huge miss IMO, try the manga. If you liked castlevania this is that turned up to 100.
saintjules
Gold Member
I'm wondering myself. I played the demo on Series X. The VRR might come into play but not sure if the game suffers from screen tearing. Then there's the haptics on the DualSense. Good problems to have.
Would like to see if Digital Foundry says something tomorrow about a comparison or maybe something from
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IbizaPocholo
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By the way, is Sakuraba still composing the soundtrack for this? I was lukewarm on his Berseria OST and thought it a big downgrade from Go Shiina's Zestiria OST. It just feels like sadly Sakuraba's lost his edge in terms of composing this series.
With this track for instance, I felt he got confused and thought he was composing for Dark Souls and not Tales
Yeah it's Sakuraba again but the soundtrack sounds like a return to form honestly, I saw an interview and he said he had a full orchestra to record the soundtrack this time.
At least he's using violins again, my favorite battle themes from him are those that make heavy use of violins,
Mozzarella
Member
I have a question and i dont know if its right or wrong to ask it but im going to give it a shot.
You see this game is getting 52 reviews so far(probably will increase too), for a niche RPG that seems to be really cool, but i cannot help but compare it with Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous reviews, and that game also released 1 week ago, and it has only 12 reviews! Some of the websites here are called "RPGfan"
My question is why this big difference in number of reviews? shouldn't journalists be professional in their work and review all products? Maybe they have accessibility issues with certain games?
Now i never played both of these games so i dont know for sure but i assume Pathfinder requires certain work and knowledge before you get to play it? if that's the case i can understand the difference between the numbers. Otherwise this just seems straight up favoritism?
Can someone shed a light on this matter for me? im confused.
As for the topic i have to see the scores seem pretty high, as for anime JRPG games the best ones seem to get 85-90 score at max so this one is definitely getting good scores, still that doesnt mean its good in my view, i dont always agree with scores but a lot of the times high scores mean the game has quality material.
You see this game is getting 52 reviews so far(probably will increase too), for a niche RPG that seems to be really cool, but i cannot help but compare it with Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous reviews, and that game also released 1 week ago, and it has only 12 reviews! Some of the websites here are called "RPGfan"
My question is why this big difference in number of reviews? shouldn't journalists be professional in their work and review all products? Maybe they have accessibility issues with certain games?
Now i never played both of these games so i dont know for sure but i assume Pathfinder requires certain work and knowledge before you get to play it? if that's the case i can understand the difference between the numbers. Otherwise this just seems straight up favoritism?
Can someone shed a light on this matter for me? im confused.
As for the topic i have to see the scores seem pretty high, as for anime JRPG games the best ones seem to get 85-90 score at max so this one is definitely getting good scores, still that doesnt mean its good in my view, i dont always agree with scores but a lot of the times high scores mean the game has quality material.
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Danjin44
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I would say stop focusing on scores, there is a demo you can try or read/watch what the reviewer have to say instead of focusing on scores. Even game get 10/10, if you don’t enjoy very “anime” JRPGs then scores won’t do you much good.
Multiple reasons. It depends on the publisher really. Some games you get approached by pr asking if you want to review, others you have to ask yourselves. Then there is game length and when did you get the code.
We never heard anything from deep silver, so we had to contact them ourselves. Bandai however has a very active pr team. So we prioritize the things that actually show up.
I haven't played pathfinder, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's a longer game than arise. That and late code can mean one of two things. Not doing the review since you're gonna lose momentum and thus the clicks that pay your rent, or no review at all in favor of other games.
Also, if a review is late, the importance of being on metacritic kinda tends to go down. So you don't always send in your review.
In general, blame the publisher for being late with a code, or not approaching outlets for a code. A huge game is a time investment, and if you don't get good time before release date, it's a stressful job many will be reluctant to take.
darth.shrimp
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I'm pretty sure sure Pathfinder, as a DnD game, would be considered the more "niche" of the two, whereas Tales of Arise is the latest entry in a very popular series that started on the SNES.
But then, Namco probably has a lot more money to spend for advertising with "journalists" than Owlcat in the first place anyway...
They're not "advertising with journalists" they're actively promiting their game by putting out ads and approaching outlets with preview and review opportunities.
That's what anyone with a product to sell should do. Why deep silver is sleeping on the job is not the fault of journalists.
I get that it makes you happy to think otherwise, but believe it or not, most game journalists take their work seriously and are good at what they do. If you can't see beyond kotaku and ign and the like, that really is on you.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
That was a period when everyone hated Japanese games and wanted more brown shooters.
Oh and I also want to add that inflation is a thing. Kids these days think anything below an 8 equals trash. Or maybe that's an American thing, I've been told by Lyft drivers that if I don't give them 5 stars they'll commit suicide.
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Irony is that the original is way better. All that new stuff in the definitive edition is just really terrible and or unnecessary filler material. The pacing is just way better in the original game. I stopped playing the DE and hooked up my 360 instead to play the original. Much better.
LiquidMetal14
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JusticeForAll
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I have both a ps5 and series X, so I'm waiting for a clear answer. I have read though that the demo ran quite a bit better on the series X than on the ps5.I'm wondering myself. I played the demo on Series X. The VRR might come into play but not sure if the game suffers from screen tearing. Then there's the haptics on the DualSense. Good problems to have.
Would like to see if Digital Foundry says something tomorrow about a comparison or maybe something from
Life
Member
Is the game actually challenging? Or do you just go into battles mashing and winning? I tried Berseria and got bored really fast due to the battle system. Dungeons were also really bland with random shiny shit scattered everywhere, just to increase your playtime.
If this one is more challenging and has actual dungeon exploration, I'm in.
If this one is more challenging and has actual dungeon exploration, I'm in.
Synless
Member
Did you try the demo?
Kokoloko85
Member
I thought it was coming out next year so pleasantly surprised. Will buy it
Life
Member
NO I just checked on Steam, it's not there.
Synless
Member
Ah, I see. Well to answer your question its still pretty button mashy. That said, it does reward you to try and use combos. My biggest gripe is the group attacks seem to accessible to frequently making the game easier.
Life
Member
That's a shame. Sounds like I'm gonna fight the same way in each battle, regardless of the enemy. I wish they made JRPGs so battle are much fewer, but each battle is long, and and tests your party in different ways.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
This is really an issue with almost all JRPGs, where ordinary battles tend to be mindless and repetitive regardless of the depth of the mechanics. And if they aren't they get regarded as grindy and difficult because you can always compensate for skill with experience.
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Zathalus
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If you have a VRR TV, then no question the Series X, it runs quite a bit better in quality mode and VRR covers for the drops.
This is of course assuming that quality mode has unlocked FPS like the demo.
If you don't have VRR, or the FPS is capped to 30 in the quality mode then it should be almost the exact same on either system.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Vespiria definitely felt like the last of the classic era of Tales. Since then it has been searching for a new voice with varying degrees of success.
Arise doesn't sound like a return to the classic roots of the series but based on these reviews it might be the new voice it has been looking for.
smart_brazileiro
Banned
After 1 hour of playing (PS5) I can tell you guys.. Pop-in ( especially for npcs) is even worse than FF7R on PS4. Graphics mode feels like 37 fps. It's bad.