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John Dunbar
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it's not slams, you can skip one if you're over 30, one if you have played over 600 matches, and one if you have been on the tour for 12 years. if all three are true, like with federer and nadal, you can skip as many as you want.
perfectchaos007
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Oh its seniority, not merit. That makes sense. I just knew the more accomplished players on tour could skip without penalty and thought it had to do with wins.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Ash Barty (Aussie) beat Venus Williams in Cincinnati Open (6-3, 2-6, 6-2). She played really consistently, hope that form continues for her. Served out a love game for the win.
Gracious words Barty had about Williams after the match too:
Gracious words Barty had about Williams after the match too:
RedAssedApe
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is "fatigue" really an excuse for someone his age though 
perfectchaos007
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So that was decided by the WTA higher-ups? Or did the players have a say?
This sure is a stupid way to watch Federer win Wimbledon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xFhoqmRIB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xFhoqmRIB4
John Dunbar
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will lose during the first week and not play for the rest of the season.
pretty sure that also means federer and nadal can end up on the same side of the draw. federer i think is like 5 points behind murray. if he had played cincy and just tanked his first match he would have probably been guaranteed top 2 seed.
dimitrov routined sugita, now only isner stands in front of his first masters final. i bet the big guy serves the bulgarian out. i am pretending donaldson does not exist.
According to this Murray got seeded second so looks like you're right about Federer and Nadal
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/18/andy-murray-fit-us-open
And I'm not so sure about Murray being out in week one. Now he's not top of the rankings he can go back to winning...
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/18/andy-murray-fit-us-open
And I'm not so sure about Murray being out in week one. Now he's not top of the rankings he can go back to winning...
Diprosalic
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i need old man Ferrer to kick some australian ass.
i highly doubt we'll see Federer vs Nadal at the USO even if they are in the same half.
i highly doubt we'll see Federer vs Nadal at the USO even if they are in the same half.
Diprosalic
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i take a wide open field over a certain Nadal win.
USO betting odds:
Federer 3.1
Nadal 3.9
Zverev 11
Murray 13
Cilic 20
Thiem 25
Raonic 25
Nishikori, Kyrgios, Del Potro 50
Nadal at 3.9 is just throwing money out of the window. Zverev is the third favourite despite never reaching a slam QF. Murray at 4th hasn't played on HC since march.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
nishikori has pretty low odds for someone who's not even going to play.
Tell me who I should bet money on.
Diprosalic
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those were from the 15th, i was too lazy to update them myself. only minor changes at the top.
John Dunbar
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too late, already put three grand on the samurai
Kotetsu534
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I think the value there is Zverev or Cilic. Can't bet on Murray without seeing how his hip is and he hasn't been past the QFs at the USO since he won. If you watch the first set he plays and think he's moving freely might be worth sneaking something on him. Fed and Nadal have zero value. Zverev... third favourite at a Slam already, without ever being past R4 or beating an elite player over Bo5 in his career? I guess he is, huh.
Diprosalic
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maybe you'll get a refund if you ask nicely.
i'd probably put money on Cilic if i had to. As you said, Zverev hasn't made a slam QF yet, that's a bit risky at way lower odds.
John Dunbar
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dimitrov takes the first set. but surely he will still find a way to lose?
perfectchaos007
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Nope! Dmitrov wins in straights
Kotetsu534
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Isner hit a Murray-esque defensive lop on his set point at, I think, 9-10. Dimitrov scrambled it back short in the court, giving him ample time to wind up his huge forehand. Instead he basically rolled an approach to Dimitrov's backhand and got passed. He won't look back on that point with pride.
perfectchaos007
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If Halep played finals like she does semi-finals, she would have been #1 already. Her and Woz just seem to choke in finals.
note: I would love it if Woz and Halep somehow met in the US Open finals lmao.
John Dunbar
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halep has 15 titles from 25 finals. that's not particularly bad.
Diprosalic
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i want Woz to become the first world number 1 without a tournament win.
she holds two titles now and those are only a bit more than 600 points. if she makes the USO finals and lose to a lower ranked player it might be doable.
edit: she made the semis last year, so not much points to gain.
That might just be the most boring women's final ever played. No thank you!
I'd definitely take Halep vs. a big hitter, though. THAT can be exciting.
Kotetsu534
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As a general rule tennis is at its best with a mix of styles. Two all-out attackers with poor defense results in too many short points (see Kvitova v Keys) and no rhythm. Two defenders results in lots of very long rallies and a high percentage of errors (see Woz v Halep). Obviously you can great get matches with two big hitters or two great defenders, but I think the odds are much better with a clear contrast.
perfectchaos007
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Yeah she was better suited mentally earlier in her career to win finals, but now? She's a finals choke artist. Losing 6-1, 6-0 today in the finals to Muguruza. No excuse for that
John Dunbar
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she's lost the last three finals, yes, but before that she won the last four.
she got blown away today (i am assuming, i did not see the match), but there is nothing exceptional about her finals performances, one way or another. and when you lose 6-1, 6-0, that has nothing to do with being a "choke artist." you actually need to be in the match to choke.
if we're inventing narratives, we can as well say she chose to tank because she didn't want to be a slamless number one.
Diprosalic
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Dimitrov takes the first set.
John Dunbar
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look at that, the bulgarian actually won something.
Diprosalic
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Dolgopolov might be in some serious trouble.
very unusual betting activity before his last match and then an extremely low effort showing.
it might just that someone heard that he's not feeling well and told a high roller, but it's not a good look.
http://www.sportdw.com/2017/08/dolgopolov-winston-salem-suspicious.html
something feels off, if you want to fix a match why would he make it so obvious?
very unusual betting activity before his last match and then an extremely low effort showing.
it might just that someone heard that he's not feeling well and told a high roller, but it's not a good look.
http://www.sportdw.com/2017/08/dolgopolov-winston-salem-suspicious.html
something feels off, if you want to fix a match why would he make it so obvious?
Diprosalic
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i'm making the USO thread if nobody else really wants to make it.
perfectchaos007
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Do it. Ruin Diamond's chance at a calendar slam like he's Serena and you're Vinci
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Dimitrov won a Masters?
I'll arrange the funeral proceedings.
I'll arrange the funeral proceedings.
perfectchaos007
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Gotta give him credit. With Fed's absence, baby Fed saw this as an opportunity, and he capitalized
Diprosalic
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Yes! And i will make it extra shitty just to spite him.
shirtless Isner yes/no
perfectchaos007
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