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The Blacklist - Mondays 10/9c on NBC
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Agreed, I liked the whole premise and cinematic style from the get-go. It was really well done. I liked how Tom's relationship with the black chick (who's name escapes me) developed over time to the point where they become where he said that she's like a sister to him. It makes me wish the main series had a similar style. I do hope that characters from Redemption cross over into the main series even as guest appearances. I'm going to miss the returning episode as I'll be out of town.
I agree with you on the spoiler.
I knew Tom's father was suspicious from episode 1 because he always had a smug look on his face in every scene. My guess is his father is going to be the big bad in a theoretical season 2 and Tom is going to have to bury the hatchet with Scottie.
No comments on the premiere? I liked the Mr. Kaplan origin story. It finally put to rest why Red calls her that, even if it is a somewhat bittersweet reason. The episode also really puts Red in a rather bad light, as even though he was somewhat vindicated in his disagreement with her methods by the eventual circumstances, she was only doing exactly what she said she was going to do, for which he originally praised her.
He *is* kinda supposed to be an anti-hero, so I'm OK with it.
I thought that second hour was the best the show has been all season. It was enthralling. I didn't see the Mr. Kaplan name origin twist but it made sense. It was astonishing how much that younger actress looks like the older Mr. Kaplan.
I did think Masha/Liz looked a little too old; like, old enough to remember all that stuff later in life. I thought she was about 2 years old when the fire happened, but she looked closer to 6 in that motel room.
They're still being ambiguous about whether Red is Liz's father ("I never knew who the father was,") but come on, he totally is, haha.
Wasn't there something a season or two ago about someone intentionally suppressing her memories of the incident? If not, we could chalk it up to repressed memories in the same way Olivia Dunham remembered almost nothing about Jacksonville. Also, wasn't the fire the same night that Liz shot somebody? Not saying a 2 year old can't intentionally shoot somebody, but 6 is a bit more reasonable.
Mighty Chin
Banned
Those were two fantastic hours of Television.
Mighty Chin
Banned
Oh my that was a great scene with Red and Dembe.
The bromance is back on with Red and Dembe. Long may they live. ;_; I still need to see last week's episode to get some better context as to what's going on. However, I liked that a BL Redemption reference was peppered in with Tom coming to terms with Scottie being his mom.
Kate has always been creepy but this episode made her even more creepy given that she's turned heel even if her methods aren't exactly violent/indirectly. I also like the douchey detective with the shades who's determined to capture Red. It adds a new dynamic to the FBI. I kind of miss Redemption's cinematic style though but it compensates with Red's flowery dark monologues.
Kate has always been creepy but this episode made her even more creepy given that she's turned heel even if her methods aren't exactly violent/indirectly. I also like the douchey detective with the shades who's determined to capture Red. It adds a new dynamic to the FBI. I kind of miss Redemption's cinematic style though but it compensates with Red's flowery dark monologues.
I admit I might have been not paying attention during some of the dialogue, but was it explained why Kate was even keeping all these bodies under an ice rink? It seems as though as skilled as she is, there would be more permanent ways of disposing of corpses, so was she keeping them all as a contingency against Red ever since she started working for him?
I'm not sure if it was. I wasn't paying too much attention during this last episode myself and was confused by it. It seemed to have implied that Elizabeth and the cop who Wexler was working with were to meet from the end of last night's episode so maybe that's what it was for. Maybe another sharp eared viewer can explain.
I don't think they'd been stored there together to begin with. I think they were stored various places that only Kate knew about, and she went on her road trip to collect the bodies, then rented out (or otherwise gained access to) that ice rink to put them all on display for her big reveal to the cops.
The Salt Life
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They recently filmed on the bridge I cross over to go to the beach every day.
Demby and Red were therev
Demby and Red were therev
Dio Brando
Banned
yep. seeing she went to the hotel, for example, i think that's the case.
Megabyte117
Member
I've been off and on with the show for a while, but I've caught up to the finale.
So, please, please, tell me this is the end of the question of whether Red is Lizzie's father. I don't want next season to suddenly change it by suggesting Red isn't the real Raymond Reddington or some other contrived excuse. I'm tired of the constant misleading bait-and-switch. If this really is it, then I'm actually pretty curious to see how this information informs their dynamic in the next season.
Yay, we finally know the truth (that we've known all along)! Of course, they had to introduce a new mystery at the end because they got renewed for a fifth season, heh. But it was nice to finally hear Liz say it. You could just see Red's heart melt as she accepted him as family. He kinda nuzzled her when she hugged him, haha.
And can I just say that one of the best scenes in the show, IMO, is when Red and Dembe got in the car with the crazy FBI investigator dude? Spader delivered those lines with glee. And after recounting all the times he's gotten away, he says, "More to come!" and runs off, escaping yet again despite sitting right next to the agent. It was hilarious.
Poor Mr. Kaplan, though, yeesh. I guess at least she went out on her own terms. I presume the suitcase she dug up has Liz's mom's bones in it; I wonder what those bones reveal about what Red "did" to her.
You're gonna die on that hill? He's hardly a character at all, LoL
And can I just say that one of the best scenes in the show, IMO, is when Red and Dembe got in the car with the crazy FBI investigator dude? Spader delivered those lines with glee. And after recounting all the times he's gotten away, he says, "More to come!" and runs off, escaping yet again despite sitting right next to the agent. It was hilarious.
Poor Mr. Kaplan, though, yeesh. I guess at least she went out on her own terms. I presume the suitcase she dug up has Liz's mom's bones in it; I wonder what those bones reveal about what Red "did" to her.
You're gonna die on that hill? He's hardly a character at all, LoL
I stopped midway into the first season but
they're just now confirming that?! Isn't this season 3 or 4 now?
I imagine that's the true answer. It felt like they intentionally got the narrative to that point in case the show was canceled so that viewers would know the truth. And yeah, I'm interested to see how it changes their dynamic next season, too.
heh, yes, season four just ended. They really strung it out like two seasons too long.
Megabyte117
Member
Good point. Glad it got renewed then. I really enjoyed S1 and S2 and most of S3. S4 was a low point, but towards the end it improved.
I don't mind it being strung out, but it probably was a season too long haha. Just relieved we got an answer at all I suppose.
Don't care. He's the best!
LQX
Member
This season has been amazing, the best one yet. And I guess we know what all next season will be about. Another surprise for Liz.
Also, I hate that they are bringing back Tom. I just hate his presents in any episode. And with the angle they seemingly will go for next season he will play big part of it.
Also, I hate that they are bringing back Tom. I just hate his presents in any episode. And with the angle they seemingly will go for next season he will play big part of it.
Mighty Chin
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It has its ups and downs. They flesh out the cast quite a bit this season but the overall the show feels like it's treading water. I found Redemption more enjoyable than Season 3 and 4.
I like it better than season three. Red gets a good, threatening adversary in the second half of the season, and there are some really good flashbacks that answer some questions about the show's characters and world.
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I just binged season 4 hard and loved it, one of my favourite seasons. I'm really glad it got renewed. James Spader is just incredible as Red.
This episode feels a little like a fan wrote it and sent it in to the production team. Reds characterization is a bit off, there are a lot of contrivances in the plot, there have been a couple fan servicey moments, the whole thing just feels a bit sloppily written. I dunno.
[edit] That was probably the worst episode of this show since the clip episode in season three. Its too bad; I thought last week was really good.
[edit] That was probably the worst episode of this show since the clip episode in season three. Its too bad; I thought last week was really good.