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The Last of Us 2's graphics (no spoilers)

That looks lifeless. I think there are many games that does better job than hellblade. But anyways there is no point in comparing character models or gfx screenshot, videos of every good looking game as they all are good.
There are many games that look better than hellblade. Can't deny that. But that was one example, that looks better than uncharted, and it does.
 

recma12

Member
I gave in after being spoiled already and watched some of the gameplay in the forest. How are Naughty Dog pulling these visuals off on a console that's been out for almost 7 years blows my mind

Money, time and focus on hardware OP.

Other multiplat series simply can't get away with postponing release and they also can't fully focus on a single piece of hardware. Gears and Forza are the best looking Xbox games, Uncharted and God of War are the best looking Playstation games while Mario and Kart are the best looking Nintendo games. Well, they will at least be in the conversation.
How long have you been gaming that you don't know that?

Only exception to the rule is Rockstar but they:
a) release like 2 games per decade = time factor
b) know that they will recoup the invested time and money
c) GTA/RDR release on consoles first, which gives them time to work on the PC version

Nobody can and should expect games like AssCreed, FIFA or Call of Duty to match that quality because they release frequently and on all platforms on the same day,
 

drotahorror

Member
Finally saw the forest gameplay...

Looks really nice from what you can tell, even with the awful compression. It's probably even on base ps4, ND can do similar graphics and have proved their selves with U4.

Not mind blowing or anything, but if they incorporate all of the awesome physics that U4 did along with those graphics, it will be really fun messing around in the environments during fire fights. I think that's something people forget about in U4. LOTS of destructibles, you can shoot chunks of concrete off columns, sand out of sand bags, a lot of objects have very credible physics.

Take RDR2 which looks great, but the object physics are basically non-existent. The gameplay and gunplay would have been so much more visceral and intense if tables, chairs, bars, doors, porch posts, etc would have been destructible. Or if shelves could have been broken causing whatever they had been holding to come tumbling down. R* almost did something really neat with fire but it was half baked (no pun intended).

RDR2, TLOU2, Horizon ZD, all games that are pushing very aging hardware to it's limits (even Driveclub did). Physics are the future of next-gen to me. Will they utilize it? Probably not.
 
If you asked any person on the street what the photos of rdr2, gears and hellblade look like they'd say a video game character

If you showed them the image below, they could easily mistake it for a real person at first glance.
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You discredit a screenshot because it "looks like CG", even though it wasn't, then you show a, non in-game photo?! Lmfao. You can't be serious at this point.
 

Mass Shift

Member
Did we see the same footage? It looked OK, nothing ground breaking, especially for a game that is in development for 7 years and even with a HUGE team and a lot of budget.

I honestly think that the forest in A Plague Tale looked much better:


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and this is from a small indie dev.



yeah especially on one X with 4K native res. Looks so sharp and crisp. Especially the sky, looks like real life. its crazy

Omg, such an overlooked and underplayed experience
 

vkbest

Member
Did we see the same footage? It looked OK, nothing ground breaking, especially for a game that is in development for 7 years and even with a HUGE team and a lot of budget.

I honestly think that the forest in A Plague Tale looked much better:


A-Plague-Tale-Innocence-13.png


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A-Plague-Tale-Innocence-17.png



and this is from a small indie dev.



yeah especially on one X with 4K native res. Looks so sharp and crisp. Especially the sky, looks like real life. its crazy


You should do 2 things.

1) See the footage OP is talking about
2) Fix your eyes.

The game is not in development for 7 years.
 

Hobbygaming

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Money, time and focus on hardware OP.

Other multiplat series simply can't get away with postponing release and they also can't fully focus on a single piece of hardware. Gears and Forza are the best looking Xbox games, Uncharted and God of War are the best looking Playstation games while Mario and Kart are the best looking Nintendo games. Well, they will at least be in the conversation.
How long have you been gaming that you don't know that?

Only exception to the rule is Rockstar but they:
a) release like 2 games per decade = time factor
b) know that they will recoup the invested time and money
c) GTA/RDR release on consoles first, which gives them time to work on the PC version

Nobody can and should expect games like AssCreed, FIFA or Call of Duty to match that quality because they release frequently and on all platforms on the same day,
I've been gaming forever, it was a rhetorical question :)
 

Hobbygaming

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Hopefully you sleep tonight. Hellblade and Gears 5 looks better. I'm not sure why you can't accept that games look better than uncharted, as if the game will look better than any game before or after it. Why is that so hard to swallow for you?
*wrong gif*
 

Magik85

Member
not highest lod cutscene models which was what i was talking about.


1. Cutscenes graphics are irrevelant since they are downgraded in gameplay.
2. This video is even worse since its not even part of the game. Its not even running real time on PS4.
You could say its something like target render (which final game failed to match).
3. Yes, for the most part U4 is beautifull game. And it doesnt need to be defended by target renders or cutscenes.
Turks shots show it very well.
4. Funny thing is that all those people posting U4 screens/videos disprove point of this thread since they are usually looking on par or better than what was shown in TLOU2 xD
 

recma12

Member
I've been gaming forever, it was a rhetorical question :)

Haha, it was just a joke. And yes anytime you play a basic 3rd party title and then jump to an exclusive 1st party game, I ask that question.
I remember playing Far Cry 5 and Horizon Zero Dawn back to back. When I saw HZD for the first time in comparison to FC5 I was like "WTF?! Did my PS4 turn into a PS5 over night or what?!"


Good points, actually - ND really just has one set of hardware to accommodate. Though, it seems, if you treat people like disposable machines, anything is possible. And that isn't just on Naughty Dog, either.

These prestige, top tier studios can get away with murder, yet there will always be people standing in line to work for them.
If it says in your CV that you worked on CoD, Madden, GTA 5 or Uncharted 4 it's just a lot better career-wise than "I designed all the trucks in Farming Simulator 2019" or "I worked on the 3D animations for a toothpaste commercial".
So not only can these studios hire more people, they can also hire better people and work them harder than smaller studios.
That said, let's not act like consumers (me included) really care.
Yeah, I feel bad for the devs that do crunch for weeks but the moment I see bad textures or experience a bug, I get pissed.

Kinda like people feel bad about sweatshops in Bangladesh but also love a good deal on Nike sneakers lol
 
1. Cutscenes graphics are irrevelant since they are downgraded in gameplay.
2. This video is even worse since its not even part of the game. Its not even running real time on PS4.
You could say its something like target render (which final game failed to match).
3. Yes, for the most part U4 is beautifull game. And it doesnt need to be defended by target renders or cutscenes.
Turks shots show it very well.
4. Funny thing is that all those people posting U4 screens/videos disprove point of this thread since they are usually looking on par or better than what was shown in TLOU2 xD
that video must be in some way in the final version since there are comparison photos from retail and reveal in an old gaf thread.

As for what could have kept TLOU2 from vastly outclassing it, it could be the 70% employee turnover. Still it looks pretty good.
 

ZywyPL

Banned
I always thought Motorstorm, Uncharted 1 and Heavenly Sword already showcased cell power before Killzone 2?

MS was great at its time, especially the vehicle destruction was impressive, I give you that, , but UC1 was nothing special technically, and HS, as much as I loved the game, had serious framerate issues, it was basically sub-30FPS game, so not a good example.
 

ZehDon

Member
MS was great at its time, especially the vehicle destruction was impressive, I give you that, , but UC1 was nothing special technically, and HS, as much as I loved the game, had serious framerate issues, it was basically sub-30FPS game, so not a good example.
Hey! Hey! I'll have you know that Nate's clothes got more wet the deeper you moved into the water and then dried off when you got out. That shit was revolutionary to me back in the day.
 

ZywyPL

Banned
Hey! Hey! I'll have you know that Nate's clothes got more wet the deeper you moved into the water and then dried off when you got out. That shit was revolutionary to me back in the day.

ND is famous for such details, kudos for them, but at the end of the day, does it really bring anything to the table, to the gameplay? Would people even noticed them if ND didn't point it out in their interviews?
 

ZehDon

Member
ND is famous for such details, kudos for them, but at the end of the day, does it really bring anything to the table, to the gameplay? Would people even noticed them if ND didn't point it out in their interviews?
Well, I wasn’t being terribly serious 😇
 

martino

Member
As for what could have kept TLOU2 from vastly outclassing it, it could be the 70% employee turnover. Still it looks pretty good.

if they don't change how they do thing if this number is real is beyond me.
 
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Obviously you and several others have been proven wrong, over and over again.
Like when the basic model of Hellblade has the half polygons of the fifth Uncharted character.
You are insane with amazing fantasy build skills. I don't know why they haven't banned you yet.

In the other thread you are begging for a PS port and then you like posts that bashing them.
Just buy the damn master console. lol. It makes you sick. You need it you can have it. The most time you spend is in console threads any way. :) Buy the damn thing :)
 
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M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Like when the basic model of Hellblade has the half polygons of the fifth Uncharted character.
You are insane with amazing fantasy build skills. I don't know why they haven't banned you yet.

In the other thread you are begging for a PS port and then you like posts that bashing them.
Just buy the damn master console. lol. It makes you sick. You need it you can have it. The most time you spend is in console threads any way. :) Buy the damn thing :)
I don't know why they haven't banned you yet.
 
Like when the the basic model of Hellblade has the half polygons of the fifth Uncharted character?
You are insane. I don't know why they haven't banned you yet.
How many polygons does the main character have in uncharted again?? Senua still looks better, especially the details in her face. Call the mods, report me if you want, as I'm doing nothing wrong here. Especially since I'm comparing a ps4 to ps4 game. What fucking irony right?! Wanna know another fact?! I enjoyed the game, Uncharted more than hellblade, but Senua still looks better than Nathan.





 
M1chl
You hate sense?

How many polygons does the main character have in uncharted again?? Senua still looks better, especially the details in her face. Call the mods, report me if you want, as I'm doing nothing wrong here. Especially since I'm comparing a ps4 to ps4 game. What fucking irony right?! Wanna know another fact?! I enjoyed the game, Uncharted more than hellblade, but Senua still looks better than Nathan.

Whatever makes you happy mate.

Even if you trying unsuccesfully to hide why are you in this thread, you know why are you here.:)
 
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M1chl
You hate sense?



Whatever makes you happy mate.
Even if you try to hide why are you in this thread, you know why are you here.
Since you know better than me, why am I in this thread? Why did I state a simple fact, then get harassed for the next few pages about why Senua looks better than the character model Nathan? By none other than some of the biggest warriors on GAF. I as well as others used a single example, and you go ape shit and trying to accuse me of some shit I'm not even aware of lol. This is why people say die hard Sony fanboys are the worst. You just can't have a simple debate with them. They try and get you banned, bring up irrelevant stuff, move the goal posts, and continually fall flat on their face, over and over. If you have nothing to resort to that this crap, I'll simply block you and leave it at that.
 

Shmunter

Member
Since you know better than me, why am I in this thread? Why did I state a simple fact, then get harassed for the next few pages about why Senua looks better than the character model Nathan? By none other than some of the biggest warriors on GAF. I as well as others used a single example, and you go ape shit and trying to accuse me of some shit I'm not even aware of lol. This is why people say die hard Sony fanboys are the worst. You just can't have a simple debate with them. They try and get you banned, bring up irrelevant stuff, move the goal posts, and continually fall flat on their face, over and over. If you have nothing to resort to that this crap, I'll simply block you and leave it at that.

Every time I trip over on one of your posts I start getting sleepy, It’s a goddamn phenomenon.

Anyone else? How extraordinary.
 
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Never needed what exactly? The Gaytm?! Was it just fine without The Gaytm?! What would make it okay in your opinion? If she was just straight like in real life, like how people are just straight by default in real life and no one asks questions??
The fuck you smoking.. Last of Us did not need a sequel and should of been a stand alone product, not every reason is politically motivated.
 
Since you know better than me, why am I in this thread? Why did I state a simple fact, then get harassed for the next few pages about why Senua looks better than the character model Nathan? By none other than some of the biggest warriors on GAF. I as well as others used a single example, and you go ape shit and trying to accuse me of some shit I'm not even aware of lol. This is why people say die hard Sony fanboys are the worst. You just can't have a simple debate with them. They try and get you banned, bring up irrelevant stuff, move the goal posts, and continually fall flat on their face, over and over. If you have nothing to resort to that this crap, I'll simply block you and leave it at that.
I really hate when people trying to hide bias/hating. That's me. :) I want straight forward things as I am straightforward(''buy a ps5'' etc).

Anyway, I have flaws too. As you have. I am not the pope. At least I want to put some good arguments on the table, even if I am a dick sometimes.
sorry about that.:)
 
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Every time I trip over on on of your posts I start getting sleepy, It’s a goddamn phenomenon.

Anyone else? How extraordinary.
Yeah... Looks like it's only you, especially if no one liked your status for over an hour now. At least I post things for a discussion, not empty blanket statements like you just did. (And now I'm guilty of it too, by even responding to your useless post).
I really hate when people trying to hide bias/hating. That's me. :) I want straight forward things as I am straightforward(''buy a ps5'' etc).

Anyway, I have flaws too. As you have. I am not the pope. At least I want to put some good arguments on the table, even if I am a dick sometimes.
sorry about that.:)
Apology accepted.
Trust me, I'm not hiding behind a bias or have any ulterior motives here. I really love when devs give special attention to characters, so I figured this would be an interesting thread. Forgive me in advance, but I really enjoyed For Honor. Have several hundred hours on the game, and one thing that blew my mind was the attention to detail the devs gave the heroes. When running up or down the stairs, the characters would look down at their feet, the animations were very smooth, and best of all, there was plenty of salt in every match.
 
Yeah... Looks like it's only you, especially if no one liked your status for over an hour now. At least I post things for a discussion, not empty blanket statements like you just did. (And now I'm guilty of it too, by even responding to your useless post).

Apology accepted.
Trust me, I'm not hiding behind a bias or have any ulterior motives here. I really love when devs give special attention to characters, so I figured this would be an interesting thread. Forgive me in advance, but I really enjoyed For Honor. Have several hundred hours on the game, and one thing that blew my mind was the attention to detail the devs gave the heroes. When running up or down the stairs, the characters would look down at their feet, the animations were very smooth, and best of all, there was plenty of salt in every match.
True. For Honor looks pretty good. I was surprised when I tried it. Characters, environment etc.
 
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Darth

Member
Platforming and solving puzzles are gameplay.

As a whole Uncharted 2 has far more of that than Uncharted 4. I am pretty sure I didn't say those were not gameplay. 4 is very story driven which while I enjoy I love the gameplay in 4 and prefer the ratio of the rest far more. Lost Legacy helped with that quite a bit.
 

n0razi

Member
I gave in after being spoiled already and watched some of the gameplay in the forest. How are Naughty Dog pulling these visuals off on a console that's been out for almost 7 years blows my mind


The Jaguar APU used in the PS4 (and Xbox One) is from 2013! So technically its running on 15+ year old PC tech.
 
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docbot

Banned
I am trying to keep spoiler free, but kinda interested what's going on in the spoiler thread :) Are the SJW haters ripping it apart, does it look great though? The trailers looked brutal already, how gruesome are we talking?
 
I gave in after being spoiled already and watched some of the gameplay in the forest. How are Naughty Dog pulling these visuals off on a console that's been out for almost 7 years blows my mind

Naughty Dog games are sort of like racing games in the sense that theres very little world that has to be rendered. Games dont get any more linear than a Naughty Dog games, other than side-scrollers
 
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Naughty Dog games are sort of like racing games in the sense that theres very little world that has to be rendered. Games dont get any more linear than a Naughty Dog games, other than side-scrollers

I mean, a lot of the portions are very linear, but they also feature a lot of fairly open areas.
 

LED Guy?

Banned
You should do 2 things.

1) See the footage OP is talking about
2) Fix your eyes.

The game is not in development for 7 years.
Amazing reply! Oof LOL!!

Also the graphics in Plague's Tale weren't all that good, you can see how blurry, and how low-textured the environments are in it.
 
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