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[Memles]

The Emmy Nominations are officially revealed: now it's just the final countdown to the awards. And, well, a period of time to bitch about them. It's necessary, clearly.

Important Dates:
Ballots Due: Thursday, June 21st, 2007
Nominations: Thursday, July 19th, 2007
The 59th Annual Primetime Emmy Awards: Sunday, September 16th, 2007

The Nominations:

Outstanding Comedy Series
Entourage
The Office
30 Rock
Two And A Half Men
Ugly Betty

Outstanding Drama Series
Boston Legal
Grey’s Anatomy
Heroes
House
The Sopranos

Outstanding Lead Actor In A Comedy Series
Ricky Gervais (Andy Millman)
Tony Shalhoub (Adrian Monk)
Steve Carell (Michael Scott)
Alec Baldwin (Jack Donaghy)
Charlie Sheen (Charlie Harper)

Outstanding Lead Actor In A Drama Series
James Spader (Alan Shore)
Hugh Laurie (Dr. Gregory House)
Denis Leary (Tommy Gavin)
James Gandolfini (Tony Soprano)
Kiefer Sutherland (Jack Bauer)

Outstanding Lead Actress In A Comedy Series
Felicity Huffman (Lynette Scavo)
Julia Louis-Dreyfus (Christine Campbell)
Tina Fey (Liz Lemon)
America Ferrera (Betty Suarez)
Mary-Louise Parker (Nancy Botwin)

Outstanding Lead Actress In A Drama Series
Sally Field (Nora Walker)
Kyra Sedgwick (Dep. Chief Brenda Leigh Johnson)
Mariska Hargitay (Detective Olivia Benson)
Patricia Arquette (Allison Dubois)
Minnie Driver (Dahlia Malloy)
Edie Falco (Carmela Soprano)

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Comedy Series
Kevin Dillon
Jeremy Piven
Neil Patrick Harris
Rainn Wilson
Jon Cryer

Outstanding Supporting Actor In A Drama Series
William Shatner
T.R. Knight
Masi Oka
Michael Emerson
Terry O’Quinn
Michael Imperioli

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Comedy Series
Jaime Pressly
Jenna Fischer
Holland Taylor
Conchata Ferrell
Vanessa Williams
Elizabeth Perkins

Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Drama Series
Rachel Griffiths
Katherine Heigl
Chandra Wilson
Sandra Oh
Aida Turturro
Lorraine Bracco

Outstanding Individual Performance In A Variety Or Music Program
Ellen Degeneres, Host, 79th Annual Academy Awards
Stephen Colbert, Host, The Colbert Report
Jon Stewart, Host, The Daily Show With Jon Stewart
David Letterman, Host, Late Show With David Letterman
Tony Bennett, Performer, Tony Bennett: An American Classic

Outstanding Variety, Music Or Comedy Series
The Colbert Report
The Daily Show With Jon Stewart
Late Night With Conan O’Brien
Late Show With David Letterman
Real Time With Bill Maher

Outstanding Reality-Competition Program
The Amazing Race
American Idol
Dancing With The Stars
Project Runway
Top Chef

WRITING - DRAMA
Battlestar Galactica • Occupation/Precipice
Lost • Through The Looking Glass
The Sopranos • Kennedy And Heidi
The Sopranos • The Second Coming
The Sopranos • Made In America

WRITING - COMEDY
30 Rock • Jack-Tor
30 Rock • Tracy Does Conan
Extras • Daniel Radcliffe
The Office • Gay Witch Hunt
The Office • The Negotiation

WRITING - VARIETY, MUSIC OR COMEDY
Late Night With Conan O'Brien
Late Show With David Letterman
Real Time With Bill Maher
The Colbert Report
The Daily Show With John Stewart

The rest of the nominees can be found at the link below, I'll post more of them later.

The Rest of the Nominees

**Last Year's Winners [Wikipedia]**

 

[Memles]

Okay, so maybe that thread was a bit early. However, now three weeks later, I figure that Emmy fever is reaching a higher level (Ballots are due today) and we have more info.

I still can't believe Heroes submitted the pilot instead of Company Man. What a boondoggle.

 

[krypt0nian]

Without Boston Legal noms, this show lacks something.

 

[Solo]

When will the nominees be announced? What episode did Lost put forward?

 

[jobber]

Okay, so maybe that thread was a bit early.

what gave that away?

 

[John Dunbar]

I don't know much about Emmys, but do they give the nominations based on 1 submitted episode? What is the point to judge a series based on one episode?

 

[Solo]

I don't know much about Emmys, but do they give the nominations based on 1 submitted episode? What is the point to judge a series based on one episode?

Do you have the time to watch an entire 22 episode season of a couple hundred shows? No one does. So you submit what you consider the best episode in whatever field (best actor, direction, dramatic series, etc).

 

[bud]

i would've sent the coup episode, too. that episode was awesome :lol

 

[John Dunbar]

Do you have the time to watch an entire 22 episode season of a couple hundred shows? No one does. So you submit what you consider the best episode in whatever field (best actor, direction, dramatic series, etc).

Yes, I realize this, which is why I think it's pretty pointless. Especially when it's a serial like Lost. It's just to have a silly award show instead of actually judging the quality of the series.

 

[Memles]

Without Boston Legal noms, this show lacks something.

Boston Legal's submissions:
Series - Angel of Death
Lead Actor - (James Spader - Angel of Death)
Supporting Actor - (William Shatner - Son of the Defender)

Nominations are announced July 19th, and Lost submitted "Through the Looking Glass".

And the way it works is that single episodes are judged by the Academy directly, and then placed into a finalist's pool which is then narrowed down again to the nominations. Once nominated, each series will put forward 6 episodes, I believe, which will be sent out in pairs of two to Emmy voters.

The same goes for acting: you submit more episodes after being nominated. But yep: single episodes. It's entirely flawed.

 

[Solo]

Yes, I realize this, which is why I think it's pretty pointless. Especially when it's a serial like Lost. It's just to have a silly award show instead of actually judging the quality of the series.

How is submitting the best episode your series has to offer NOT an indication of the quality of your show? Most shows that are good are consistently good, same with the bad ones.

Lost submitted "Through the Looking Glass".

Predictable, but the right choice.

 

[John Dunbar]

How is submitting the best episode your series has to offer NOT an indication of the quality of your show?

Well, for one, if it's the best then the rest of the show has to be worse. Second, I just think it's silly to judge a 22 episode season based on one episode.

 

[jjasper]

How is submitting the best episode your series has to offer NOT an indication of the quality of your show? Most shows that are good are consistently good, same with the bad ones.

Prime example is 24 season 6. Had 2-3 great episdoes and then some other stuff.

 

[distantmantra]

These are the episodes that the initial judging panel will view in nominating each series.

Drama Series:
Lost - Through the Looking Glass
Heroes - Genesis (Pilot)
Battlestar Galactica - Collaborators
House - Half-Wit

C'mon Galactica!

 

[Memles]

How is submitting the best episode your series has to offer NOT an indication of the quality of your show?

Indeed. While I think that JH has a point, and is actually quite right that it's not perhaps the best indication, what it really comes down to is whether a series has an episode that captures what makes their show stand out, and intrigues those voters to watch more or watch that episode again.

What's frustrating is that if you pick the wrong episode you're screwed. Last season Lost submitted Man of Science, Man of Faith, and its dependence on the previous season's story lost them a nomination. Similarly, this year, I think that both Heroes and Ugly Betty had terrible pilots and much better growth as a series later...but submitted their pilots.

 

[Solo]

Well, for one, if it's the best then the rest of the show has to be worse. Second, I just think it's silly to judge a 22 episode season based on one episode.

Well, like I said, until we have crazy brain implant tech to implant all the entire season of all these shows into the reviewers' minds in an hour or so, there is no way they can watch everything.

Prime example is 24 season 6. Had 2-3 great episdoes and then some other stuff.

Okay, good point there. Thankfully, I dont see 24 winning a damned thing this year, and will get not many noms either.

What's frustrating is that if you pick the wrong episode you're screwed.

100% sad truth

 

[Memles]

Prime example is 24 season 6. Had 2-3 great episdoes and then some other stuff.

Oh right...24 submitted the season premiere (6am to 7am). Based on the first four hours, I bet the season looks great! This is, of course, not representative of the show as a whole, so we'll see if voters picked up on the "24 sucked this year" vibe.

Edit: Solo, while I agree that the show won't reach last year's heights, I think Kiefer is still likely to be nominated and it could see a directing nomination since, visually, the show didn't start sucking.

 

[jjasper]

I personally hated My Musical. The singing got old real quick.

 

[Memles]

I personally hated My Musical. The singing got old real quick.

While I liked it personally, I see where you're coming from...but what other choice is there? The season was so uneven that spectacle is probably the best way to go. The Musical episode was a huge undertaking, and whether creatively successful or not I think it was the best way to go in terms of making Scrubs stand out from the pack.

 

[thekad]

:lol

 

[bud]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/TheCoup.jpg[IMG]

:lol[/QUOTE]


when i first saw that scene it kind of reminded me of jesus in potc...:lol

that scene with dwight begging for his job had me in tears.

 

[MIMIC]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0a/TheCoup.jpg

:lol

What show is this from?

 

[bud]

What show is this from?

the office (us)

 

[John Dunbar]

What show is this from?

The Office.

edit: damn you, bud

 

[MIMIC]

Damn. :lol I've had Season 1 for the longest and I still haven't watched it yet.

 

[Memles]

For the record, I actually don't really like the selection of The Coup for The Office. I would have probably selected Business School, which is Steve Carell's submission. Dwight's almost too pathetic in The Coup for me.

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

The Shield didn't get a single nom for Season 5 yes even no Chikilis or Whitaker.
The Wire has NEVER got any noms.

This is why the Emmys should be avoided at all costs.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

I hope Jenna Fischer at least gets a nod for a nomination. She's just perfect in the Office.

 

[Memles]

I hope Jenna Fischer at least gets a nod for a nomination. She's just perfect in the Office.

I concur.

She submitted "The Job" which I think is smart: after spending much of the season in a funk, and Beach Games being fairly unfunny, it was Pam at her finest.

 

[Dan]

For the record, I actually don't really like the selection of The Coup for The Office. I would have probably selected Business School, which is Steve Carell's submission. Dwight's almost too pathetic in The Coup for me.

I would agree. I'm not sure what episode I would have submitted for the show as a whole, but that wouldn't have been on my list of possibilities. Maybe "Cocktails".

 

[Memles]

I would agree. I'm not sure what episode I would have submitted for the show as a whole, but that wouldn't have been on my list of possibilities. Maybe "Cocktails".

I think Cocktails is too dramatic. Good, yes, but I think it's too...I don't know, it just doesn't cut it for me. For a while the submission was a Benihana Christmas, which would have been better...but still not perfect.

 

[Memles]

Since the balloting for the first stage finishes today, I figure I'd write out how the voting process works.

So here it is:

Emmy Nominations: How They Work, Who They Benefit

Today, June 21st, the first stage of the Emmy Nomination process ends. Getting nominated for an Emmy Award is not an easy task, and the entire process is ludicrously complicated this year. To help you follow the process as it unfolds over the next month, here’s a rundown on how the decision is made and who benefits from each stage.

Stage One: The Popular Vote

How it Works: Voters select their favourite candidate from all individuals who have submitted themselves for nomination. They read For Your Consideration ads, watch screeners, but in the end likely just pick who they like.

Who it Benefits: Shows that are either perennial nominees or extremely buzz-worthy, and actors that are well-known in Hollywood. Shows like The Sopranos or Desperate Housewives are guaranteed to do well at this stage because they have star power and award show history. Thus, voters don’t really even need to see what these candidates have to offer, they just assume they’re really good. Much hyped new shows, like Heroes and Ugly Betty, will also benefit.

Who it Harms: Ratings-deprived, critically acclaimed programs without any of the above, and actors or actresses who lack star power. While a show like critically acclaimed 30 Rock has a lot of star power (Alec Baldwin, Tina Fey), Friday Night Lights does not and will not perform well at this stage of the competition. Similarly, a show like Jericho lost so much steam in the post-hiatus period that it is unlikely to be on voters’ minds, even with the recent campaign to save it.]

Stage Two: The Top 10 Run-Off

How it Works: The Top 10 series from the popular vote are isolated and screened in front of a blue ribbon panel. Each show/actor/actress selects an episode that will be screened for the panel if it makes the Top 10. They also prepare a short written statement explaining their show and the episode in context with the show. For example, should Lost make the Best Drama Series panel (Count on it), they will be screening the season finale, “Through the Looking Glass.”

Then, each member of the panel will rank the shows from 1 to 10, and a final ranking will be decided.

Who it Benefits: Shows that are actually, you know, good, and actors or actresses who submitted great episodes. This is the stage where a show like Friday Night Lights or 30 Rock will likely perform better, along with actors or actresses who might not be seen by much of the panel (Such as Connie Britton in Friday Night Lights). It will also benefit shows like Showtime’s Dexter, and its star Michael C. Hall, who haven’t been seen by as many voters.

Who it Harms: Actors or Actresses who submitted the wrong episode or who only made it due to their pedigree or popularity. Someone like Charlie Sheen on Two and a Half Men will make the Top 10 based on the popularity of his show, but getting a nomination will be more difficult since he might pale in comparison to Steve Carell, Alec Baldwin, etc.

Stage Three: The Final Tally

How it Works: The final nominations are decided by taking the Popular Vote data, the Blue-Ribbon Panel data and then combining them together. Each is worth 50%, and after that process the nominees are decided. This differs from last year, where the blue ribbon panel had final say.

Who it Benefits: The popular vote winners. Unlike last year, shows that are popular and well-known but not all that good can still perform well and be nominated thanks to the popular vote still being counted towards the final nominations.

Who it Harms: Shows like Friday Night Lights, to beat a dead horse. The series is unlikely to rank much higher than 10th, if even in the Top 10, of the popular vote. As a result, it would need to do extremely well within the panel in order to be nominated.

Stage Four: The Nominations

How It Works: On July 19th the nominees are finalized and announced to the public. And then the voting begins again, this time with the prize being an Emmy award.

 

[Memles]

For the curious, there has been a single leak from the Top 10 portion of the competition that has confirmed that Showtime's Dexter has made it into the Top 10 Drama Series race on popular vote alone.

 

[Dan]

Memles, you have a disturbingly massive fascination with meaningless awards. May I suggest spending your time on something other than meta-popularity contests?

 

[Memles]

Memles, you have a disturbingly massive fascination with meaningless awards. May I suggest spending your time on something other than meta-popularity contests?

Heh, you are both entirely correct and preaching to the choir.

This is what I like to call my "I should be preparing for my thesis but I don't really want to" phase, so I think this is the reason for the massive coverage.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

Is the leak just the drama series? I'd like to know how the Office is doing in terms of nominations.

 

[Memles]

Is the leak just the drama series? I'd like to know how the Office is doing in terms of nominations.

It is, in fact, just Dexter. Nothing else has leaked.

I think that The Office will get a nomination pretty much guaranteed, but other than Carell they will be hard pressed to grab another. Fischer is perhaps an outside chance. Krasinski submitted weakly, and Wilson the same.

Melora Hardin is always possible as well, if she sneaks in.

And, icarus, don't have hope. Never have hope. Everything Dan says about these awards? It's all correct. Never forget that. The Wire will be summarily shut out.

 

[Cornballer]

The Wire will be summarily shut out.

All in the game yo, all in the game.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

It is, in fact, just Dexter. Nothing else has leaked.

I think that The Office will get a nomination pretty much guaranteed, but other than Carell they will be hard pressed to grab another. Fischer is perhaps an outside chance. Krasinski submitted weakly, and Wilson the same.

Melora Hardin is always possible as well, if she sneaks in.

And, icarus, don't have hope. Never have hope. Everything Dan says about these awards? It's all correct. Never forget that. The Wire will be summarily shut out.

I'd like to see Carrell, Fischer, and the show win their respective awards.

 

[Memles]

Final Top 10s are here.

In other words, if they didn't make this, they're not going to be nominated for Outstanding Comedy or Drama Series.

Top 10 Dramas
Boston Legal
Dexter
Friday Night Lights
Grey's Anatomy
Heroes
House
Lost
Rome
The Sopranos
24

Top 10 Comedies
Desperate Housewives
Entourage
Extras
My Name is Earl
The Office
Scrubs
Thirty Rock
Two and a Half Men
Ugly Betty
Weeds

 

[bud]

regarding the office: i'm in the middle of season 3 and it went downhill after the merger, it stayed like that a couple of episodes, but it picks up again starting from the business school episode. hopefully it stays like this 'till the finale.

 

[krypt0nian]

Final Top 10s are here.

In other words, if they didn't make this, they're not going to be nominated for Outstanding Comedy or Drama Series.

Top 10 Dramas
Boston Legal
Dexter
Friday Night Lights
Grey's Anatomy
Heroes
House
Lost
Rome
The Sopranos
24

Top 10 Comedies
Desperate Housewives
Entourage
Extras
My Name is Earl
The Office
Scrubs
Thirty Rock
Two and a Half Men
Ugly Betty
Weeds

No Battlestar = Boo!

Boston Legal = YAY!


Where the hell is How I Met Your Mother? Unjust! Scrubs no longer belongs.

 

[Stoney Mason]

So why isn't the Wire there since it kills nearly every one of those shows?

 

[Memles]

So why isn't the Wire there since it kills nearly every one of those shows?

Not enough of the voters watched it or know it exists.

Where the hell is How I Met Your Mother? Unjust! Scrubs no longer belongs.

The WORST thing is that Scrubs' submitted episode (My Musical) is likely to get a lot of attention in the panels and it will more than likely be nominated. If it makes it and 30 Rock doesn't, there is no justice within this pretty well already unjust system that I will pretend is just for the hell of it.

 

[Guzim]

Comedy Series:
Entourage - One Day in the Valley

Glad to see that this was the episode that they submitted for Entourage. It's one of the best, if not the best episode of the entire series.

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

regarding the office: i'm in the middle of season 3 and it went downhill after the merger, it stayed like that a couple of episodes, but it picks up again starting from the business school episode. hopefully it stays like this 'till the finale.

It does, for the most part. Yeah, there was a stretch of like 3-4 episodes that definitely weren't as funny as some of the previous stuff in season 2 or 3, but it picks up, don't worry.

 

[Greenpanda]

I still can't believe Heroes submitted the pilot instead of Company Man. What a boondoggle.

Yeah, exactly my reaction. Maybe they were thinking the pilot would be more accessible for voters who hadn't seen any of the show ... but since "Company Man" only focuses on a few characters, I don't see why it wouldn't have worked.

 

[Dexter]

I'd be a happy man if any of these won

Top 10 Dramas
Dexter

Top 10 Comedies
Entourage
Extras
The Office
30 Rock

 

[DeathbyVolcano]

Aren't they using Company Man for acting for both actor and actress catagories?

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

lol Grey's Anataomy, Boston Legal but no The Wire or The Shield? What a joke.