ChuckeRearmed
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What? I thought AMD presented some new processors recently? (aside videocards)
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Forsete
Gold Member
Yeahsch, these are the new processors.
Let me guess, they'll compare it to a 3800x even though the 3900xt is the price similar chip. (Kind of like how the 3700x is the price similar chip to the 5600x but they compare it to the 3600x. Admittedly for gaming it looks like it beats everything.)
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
lol no, this is their business model. They’ll hold your money the entire time.
TheWretched82
Member
Mindfactory.de just started taking preorders... got one in for a 5900x for 549€ (+8.99€ shipping iirc)... Site is still "usable"... but 5900x is now out of stock. 5800x was still available right now.
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PhoenixTank
Member
For anyone looking at RAM, don't go chasing 4000MHz folks. Sweet spot still seems to be the same as Zen2 (3600/3733), despite prior rumours.
Editing to add - there does seem to be a BIOS bug on AGESA 1.1.0.0 which is possibly why rumours and early reports have mismatched. 1900 fclock was rare for Ryzen 3000 and it sounds like 2000 fclock will be rare for 5000.
Editing to add - there does seem to be a BIOS bug on AGESA 1.1.0.0 which is possibly why rumours and early reports have mismatched. 1900 fclock was rare for Ryzen 3000 and it sounds like 2000 fclock will be rare for 5000.
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I meant the 3900x instead of the 3900xt but I am sure GN will have enough data for me, ordered the 5800x via Scan, now to check the reviews,
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Getting really fucking tired with sites not being able to keep up the traffic on these launches.
McHuj
Member
Already cancelled and placed an order with new Newegg. I was lucky in that I was looking to add more ram and they had the exact combo I needed. Saved a whole fucking $7 on the deal.
That makes sense. I saw a video, maybe by AMD, where they went over the chip layout and basically said the IO section of the 3000 and 5000 of these chips has remained the same so I'd expect the same memory performance. (One big improvement is that you don't have to go through the IO section to get from one group of 4 cores to the other group of either 2 or 4 cores.)
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
That 5800x is looking like a great sweet spot.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
5900x sold out almost immediately on Newegg, then the site kept resetting the purchase process every time I went to submit payment on a 5800x, now both are sold out. Amazon doesn't even have a page for either processor by the looks of it. FML.
Wunray
Member
edit oops wrong link and the 5900x sold out on amazon sorry.
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McHuj
Member
Amazon has been a total shit show this year. Nothing shows up in their search for new stuff like Ryzen and RTX gpus. You have to know the direct link somehow.
PhoenixTank
Member
Indeed it does - but this alongside how fast renoir can go, there was some hope that substrate changes or other refinements would improve it.
And yes, a CCX is up to 8 cores now - groups are at a CCD/physical chiplet level.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Time to fire up distill...
McHuj
Member
I think you can buy direct from AMD as well. Try these:
https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy/5450881600/us?add-to-cart=true
https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy/5450881700/us?add-to-cart=true
https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy/5450881500/us?add-to-cart=true
https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy/5450881400/us?add-to-cart=true
https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy/5450881600/us?add-to-cart=true
https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy/5450881700/us?add-to-cart=true
https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy/5450881500/us?add-to-cart=true
https://www.amd.com/en/direct-buy/5450881400/us?add-to-cart=true
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
I have three Fry's within 30 minutes of me and they look like flea markets now (this was BEFORE Covid). It was really sad to see them liquidate all their product. This is in Texas, maybe they still resemble the Fry's from years ago on the West Coast.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Site crashed for me. Lol
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Review
The Ryzen 9 5900X dominates Intel's Core i9-10900K in our testing because of AMD's massive IPC improvements. At $550, this processor is certainly not cheap, but it offers so much more performance, especially single-threaded, that AMD has a clear winner on their hands.
For anyone wondering whether you need one of these for 4K gaming... you can get 99.8% of the performance with a 3300X lol
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McHuj
Member
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Review
The Ryzen 9 5900X dominates Intel's Core i9-10900K in our testing because of AMD's massive IPC improvements. At $550, this processor is certainly not cheap, but it offers so much more performance, especially single-threaded, that AMD has a clear winner on their hands.www.techpowerup.com
For anyone wondering whether you need one of these for 4K gaming... you can get 99.8% of the performance with a 3300X lol
I would say it depends on how well you tolerate the lowest 1% of frames.
Looking at Eurogamers review, the 5800x vs 3300x average frame are 78.2 vs 76.4, but the lowest 1% measure is 76.2 vs 44.3 meaning that you're 3300x is going to be dropping below 60fps and can't hold on to it a solid frame rate. If that doesn't bother you, then don't upgrade.
For myself, I find it very annoying when I'm playing something at a great frame rate and a game stutters like that. I don't find even gsync to be suitable to over come that.
PhoenixTank
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SantaC
Member
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X och Ryzen 9 5900X "Vermeer" - Test - Sammanfattning
Ryzen 5000 och arkitekturen Zen 3 är här, med stora löften om dominerande prestanda på processormarknaden.
www.sweclockers.com
Ryzen 5000 series smokes intel and gets rewarded top class score by sweclockers.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
okay yeah good point. I’m having a look at their numbers now. They seem to be all over the place for the lowest 1%
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X and Ryzen 7 5800X: performance analysis
The official Digital Foundry review of the AMD Ryzen 9 5900X and Ryzen 7 5800X, hosted by Eurogamer, including synthetic and gaming performance tests.
www.eurogamer.net
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Allnamestakenlol
Member
AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Review
The Ryzen 9 5900X dominates Intel's Core i9-10900K in our testing because of AMD's massive IPC improvements. At $550, this processor is certainly not cheap, but it offers so much more performance, especially single-threaded, that AMD has a clear winner on their hands.
For anyone wondering whether you need one of these for 4K gaming... you can get 99.8% of the performance with a 3300X lol
I mean, yea, but it's not just about 4k gaming but also maximum frames while gaming at 4k. Some games utilize the cpu more than others, so every bit of juice helps.
SantaC
Member
Ryzen 5000 already sold out in sweden. https://www.inet.se/kampanj/6260/amd-ryzen-zen-3-5000-serien#amd-products
PhoenixTank
Member
SantaC
Unless a review thread pops up, could you edit coverage into the first post?
Coulomb_Barrier
Sigh. Mailing you your cheque for 100MHz back again.
(The 5Ghz boosts for 5950X are real. Turbo boost figures with Zen 3 are an "at least", rather than "at most/maybe")
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Looking at benchmarks, it seems like the new ryzen's are meeting and sometimes exceeding (but sometimes not) the performance of a 10900k. Am I blind or are they more or less equal? If that's the case, then I may change my mind about going AMD if stock is going to be an issue for the foreseeable future.
Mhmmm 2077
Member
I managed to order a 5600X in a different store, after the first one died (error 503), but now they have a warning that they are gonna be completing the orders chronologically and if they run out of CPUs... well, shit. I hope I was fast enough.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Sigh. Couldn’t grab the 5900X despite being up and refreshing. Fuck Newegg for telling me to use the app. Never showed up.
I managed to get a 5800X and 5600X, though, via the website. Neither has shipped yet. Guess I’m stuck with the 5600X since there’s no return policy. I’ll probably contact AMEX for return protection.
Anyone with a spare 5900X order? Happy to sell my 5600X to someone here if the 5800X order pans out.
I managed to get a 5800X and 5600X, though, via the website. Neither has shipped yet. Guess I’m stuck with the 5600X since there’s no return policy. I’ll probably contact AMEX for return protection.
Anyone with a spare 5900X order? Happy to sell my 5600X to someone here if the 5800X order pans out.
Insane Metal
Member
Damn Intel got roasted this time. Ryzen 2 was great but still got behind in a few areas, specially gaming. Ryzen 3 though... wow.
Also:
That 7nm vs. 14nm difference.
Also:
That 7nm vs. 14nm difference.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
I tried new egg at first. It showed up but was only available in these Gamestop-esque combos. Complete BS. I took my money to microcenter.
duhmetree
Member
Hopefully 'next-gen' brings optimization for multiple cores/threads
Ryzen will be dominant for at least a year. We'll see how good Intel's 10nm is, in a years time. After that, it will most likely be Intel 7nm vs Ryzen 5nm.
Future is bright for AMD... Top CPU and starting to challenge nvidia. All new next gen consoles... TSMC wins in all of this they need more capacity
Ryzen will be dominant for at least a year. We'll see how good Intel's 10nm is, in a years time. After that, it will most likely be Intel 7nm vs Ryzen 5nm.
Future is bright for AMD... Top CPU and starting to challenge nvidia. All new next gen consoles... TSMC wins in all of this
they need more capacity
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Jigsaah
Gold Member
Why do you think it's worthless? you got an x570 or b550 mobo?
SLESS
Member
Hopefully 'next-gen' brings optimization for multiple cores/threads
Ryzen will be dominant for at least a year. We'll see how good Intel's 10nm is, in a years time. After that, it will most likely be Intel 7nm vs Ryzen 5nm.
Future is bright for AMD... Top CPU and starting to challenge nvidia. All new next gen consoles... TSMC wins in all of this
I went with the thought that with the new consoles two+ cores are utilised for functions a PC does discretely. So when the next gen optimisation comes in the 5600x will shine.
The 5800x is an extra $250 here! #nope
if I’m wrong I’ll be buying another cpu