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The Saddest Thing Ever (NSFW, NSF anyone, really)

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Dilbert

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Catapult Beetle said:
But apparently because Hobbes is an anthropomorphic animal, it becomes a statement about furries? Is the original post an extension of some pre-existing thread or something, because I don't see where everyone is getting this from?
Drinky used the opportunity to vent his hatred and disgust towards furries, based on previous posts from the person who started this thread. It has nothing to do with the comic.

With that being said, this comic is FAR from the "saddest thing ever," and the original poster's interpretation of the comic is wrong, wrong, wrong. The comic is clearly aimed at the ADD/ADHD issue around kids, and the drug treatments which are typically prescribed, and it's actually makes a decent point. However, it has fuck-all to do with defending "nerds," "geeks," or "retards" who "embrace something fantastical."
 
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Vennt

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:lol Mike, fuck, :lol :lol :lol

You want to really hear one of the saddest things ever?

There was a guy I knew, in fact an adult, who in a surprising turn of co-incidence wrote computer games for a living during the early 80's. (In fact, he was almost single-handedly responsible for a very large part of at least one of the many 8-bit home computers catalogue).

He used to act incredibly child-like himself the majority of the time, most who knew him said it was an "admirable trait" - some said that was why he made so many 'great' games (They weren't, IMO, but some said it anyway).

Whenever anyone criticized his immaturity, and his refusal to give up his childhood they were often derided for "having no heart" and "being boring & too grown up" - after all how could he make games if he didn't understand "the child inside"?

Years later after the end of his coding 'career' I heard about him again. You see for some inexplicable reason, the police tore down his elderly mothers door, searched her house, and then let her know that her son was being held for his involvement in a child-porn ring, and that family was literally torn apart upon as this "child-like" son was prosecuted, and then jailed for his offenses.

Whenever anyone uses the defense of "embrace your inner child" as an excuse I get a chill down my spine and mark the person using it as either "dangerous" or "dangerously naive".

Accepting the qualities that make being a child great and adopting them is one thing, we'd all like to keep ahold of the imagination & creativity we had as children, and it keeps us "young at heart" to a degree and can be understood, but obsessing, and as in tthe case of furries purposefully taking such and marrying them to the adult world of sexuality is a dangerous thing, and one that I find deviant & abhorrent, as should anybody with a modicum of care for children.
 

NLB2

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Catapult Beetle said:
Is the reason everyone's saying this has to do with furries because of who posted it..? It seems clear to me that the point of the strip is that adults expect children to act like adults themselves, to the point of giving them mood-altering drugs. But by doing this, children are robbed of their childhood. And Calvin & Hobbes are used for this message because they're beloved characters.

But apparently because Hobbes is an anthropomorphic animal, it becomes a statement about furries? Is the original post an extension of some pre-existing thread or something, because I don't see where everyone is getting this from?
Yeah, Drinky Crow just rips on furries every chance he can get. He doesn't really ever make an argument. He just says stuff that basically boils down to "Being a furry is unnatural," but you never get a good argument from Drinky Crow anyway. Your best bet is to just ignore him.
 
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Vennt

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That is probably because deviant obsessive behavour doesn't need arguing against by most sane, normal people.
 

NLB2

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Vennt said:
That is probably because deviant obsessive behavour doesn't need arguing against by most sane, normal people.

I, like most straight males my age are, am as infatuated, attracted, and obssesed with women as a furry is with people in animal suits, just as most gay males are very much infatuated with, attracted to, and obsessed with other men.

I didn't know exactly what deviant meant, so I looked it up.
Adj. Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.
Ok, so what part of differing from an accepted standard in society makes being a furry so terrible? By you're reasoning being gay, which is both an obsessive as well as deviant behavior is something so wrong that doesn't need arguing against. So are you a homophone too, or do you just have some personal dislike for furries?

I wish people could let just leave others alone. I personally find the behavior of furries disgusting. That is, I cannot feel attracted to an animal or a personified animal and if I imagine myself having sex with a personified animal I feel physically ill. That's why I'm not a furry. But just because I choose not to be a furry and because I personally find it disgusting, doesn't mean that other people shouldn't be furries or that I'm "right" in my attraction to women and that furries are "wrong" in their attraction to personified animals.
 
NLB2 said:
Ok, so what part of differing from an accepted standard in society makes being a furry so terrible?
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NLB2 said:
By you're reasoning being gay, which is both an obsessive as well as deviant behavior is something so wrong that doesn't need arguing against.
By your reasoning, pedophilia should be tolerated.
 
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Vennt

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No, I am not a homophobe, by any stretch of the imagination. Nor do I find other adult forms of "different" sexuality a problem, provided they stay within the adult realm.

It is the marriage of a childs and adults desires such as that exhibited by furries that I find reprehensible, , just as I find "Nappy wearing men" and other forms of sexuality that cross these two worlds abhorrent.
 

NLB2

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Mike Works said:
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By your reasoning, pedophilia should be tolerated.
Perhaps if pedophilia was illegal and considered wrong due to it being an obsessive and deviant behavior your analogy would be valid. However, pedophilia is illegal and considered wrong because it is injurious to the target of the pedophile's deviant obssesion. Furries don't rape little girls.
 

NLB2

Banned
Vennt said:
No, I am not a homophobe, by any stretch of the imagination. Nor do I find other adult forms of "different" sexuality a problem, provided they stay within the adult realm.

It is the marriage of a childs and adults desires such as that exhibited by furries that I find reprehensible, , just as I find "Nappy wearing men" and other forms of sexuality that cross these two worlds abhorrent.
Though I haven't had much contact with furries, I've never seen any furry exhibit pedophilic behavior and pedophilic behavior, even if something possesed by many furries, isn't something that is neccesary to have for a person to be a furry.
 
Ugh so there goes showing linked images from now on.

Personally as long any fetish is between two consenting adults I do not care.
 

Dilbert

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Mike Works said:
"classy"? I think you mispelled "FUCKING HOT!!!"
1) I think it's bullshit that you posted a picture that would get anyone else banned in a second. Part of being in a position of authority is trying to set a good example.

2) I'm sick of the tired old "well if you think X is OK, then you must think PEDOPHILIA is OK!" argument. Any sexual behavior directed from an adult to a child is wrong, and that's not the issue here. If two adults think it's hot to dress up as animals and hump each other, that's their business -- they are ADULTS. In fact, there is a lot of sexual stuff that people enjoy that I simply don't understand -- watersports, BDSM, violent fantasies, tranvestitism, etc. But it isn't my place to judge their fetish, and I don't understand why making fun of furries is the hot fad on this forum all of a sudden.

3) If you think that it's inappropriate to mention sexual fetishes on the board, that's fine with me...but to be consistent, there are a LOT of other topics which will be out of bounds.
 
-jinx- said:
. But it isn't my place to judge their fetish, and I don't understand why making fun of furries is the hot fad on this forum all of a sudden.
Because Mike Works posts over at Something Awful, and they all do that over there.
 
-jinx- said:
1) I think it's bullshit that you posted a picture that would get anyone else banned in a second. Part of being in a position of authority is trying to set a good example.

2) I'm sick of the tired old "well if you think X is OK, then you must think PEDOPHILIA is OK!" argument. Any sexual behavior directed from an adult to a child is wrong, and that's not the issue here. If two adults think it's hot to dress up as animals and hump each other, that's their business -- they are ADULTS. In fact, there is a lot of sexual stuff that people enjoy that I simply don't understand -- watersports, BDSM, violent fantasies, tranvestitism, etc. But it isn't my place to judge their fetish, and I don't understand why making fun of furries is the hot fad on this forum all of a sudden.

3) If you think that it's inappropriate to mention sexual fetishes on the board, that's fine with me...but to be consistent, there are a LOT of other topics which will be out of bounds.
1) That's your opinion, and a perfectly valid one. However, I'm not the first Gaming Age admin who's bent the rules for himself, and I'm guessing I won't be the last. It is more admirable to "set a good example", so I don't want you to think I'm criticizing the position.

2) What may surprise some people is I don't have a problem with two people dressing up in animal costumes while or before having sex. As long as they don't flaunt it, I don't care.

The problem is, thanks to the internet, furry sex is fucking flaunted, and it's really god damn annoying. I don't think transvestites having sex is attractive at all, but I don't see transvestite art plasted all over the internet, or people with the faces of BDSM bondage slaves as their fucking avatars. I completely agree with your notion of- as long as you're not hurting anybody (aside from the case of BDSM or others where people ask to be hurt) or anything (bestiality), then whatever your sexual preference/deviance is fine by me.

3) I use the stance that I think what's sexually appropriate for discussion is what's appropriate to show on TV. Straight, Gay/Lesbian, Interracial, etc, they're all accepted (well, at least are mostly becoming accepted) in our culture. There are a lot of people on this board who don't want to read about gay sex or gay people period, and there are many people on this board who ARE gay. It's a touchy subject for sure, and not one where there's any factually right course of action or mindset.

That being said, I was under the impression that the comic originally posted in this thread was an incredibly stupid propoganda piece for the furry mindset. I said I was confused and didn't understand what the point of it was, and that explanation was raised and echoed. If I was under the impression that it was instead a declaration of how terrible ADD drugs are terrible or something, then I obviously wouldn't have made that alteration in the first place.

But as it stands, that's how it was initially interpretted, and that's what formed the conversation/argument that's taking place now.
 

NLB2

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Mike Works said:
The problem is, thanks to the internet, furry sex is fucking flaunted, and it's really god damn annoying. I don't think transvestites having sex is attractive at all, but I don't see transvestite art plasted all over the internet, or people with the faces of BDSM bondage slaves as their fucking avatars.
Kind of funny that I haven't seen sonarrat or any other furry here post furry porn ;-).
 

thefit

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The strip is seems to be adressing the trend of parents having there kids stoned on ridilin cuz they rather beleive their children are defective, have short attentions, or very active imaginatios rather than see the thruth that they are failing as parents with there "time outs" , pepsi cola and mtv or just beiing what they are KIDS. Blame the stupid parents that rather listen to an infomercial as to how to get control or understand they kids rather than actually spending some time with them and by that I don't mean a couple of hours a week while at the mall buying them more video games and disney videos so as to let TV raise them. I will never do this to my children when I have them I will love them no matter what.

except if they turn out to be furries..thats just creepy and wrong.
 

Tarazet

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Yeah, this whole thread has been founded on misunderstandings. Kaijima made the first mistake: he was vague and left the topic open-ended, inviting ad hominem attacks by those who didn't understand him. It's entirely possible that he even misinterpreted the strip. It didn't help that the comic was a Calvin & Hobbes, which is (wrongly) held to be an avatar of Furryism, or that Kaijima himself is a Furry who doesn't mind airing his voice.

I'm leaving Drinky Crow out of this equation, of course, because he amounts to an irrational number.
 

NLB2

Banned
sonarrat said:
Yeah, this whole thread has been founded on misunderstandings. Kaijima made the first mistake: he was vague and left the topic open-ended, inviting ad hominem attacks by those who didn't understand him. It's entirely possible that he even misinterpreted the strip. It didn't help that the comic was a Calvin & Hobbes, which is (wrongly) held to be an avatar of Furryism, or that Kaijima himself is a Furry who doesn't mind airing his voice.

I'm leaving Drinky Crow out of this equation, of course, because he amounts to an irrational number.
I don't know much about furriness. Did I help?
 
I don't think there is anything wrong with being a furry as long as it is between consenting adults, no children involved, etc.

Now, wanting to fuck animals is a completely different thing. Sonnarat has dreams of having lions hump him. He has tried to drink deer urine. He has tried to fuck a horse. That is the serious kind of fucked up that deserves imprisonment.
 

thefit

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which is (wrongly) held to be an avatar of Furryism

I didn't know this since my only exposure to furries came vial MTV and their special. If true then godamn you pervs for tarnashing one of my childhood memories.
 

Tarazet

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thefit said:
I didn't know this since my only exposure to furries came vial MTV and their special. If true then godamn you pervs for tarnashing one of my childhood memories.

I can only speak for myself, but I don't go there.

NLB2: I think you've gone the furthest towards repairing the damage the biggest morons in this thread have caused. I appreciate it.
 
Yeah fiction. Ask anyone who reads Opa Age whether this is fiction. Sonarat is an admitted zoophile. He has video taped deer pissing. He has tried to drink deer piss. He tried to fuck a horse but the horse kicked him in the nuts. He collects pictures of Disney films featuring lions, foxes, whatever to jack offf to.

All this is true. All of this is crap he has posted at OA. Ask anyone from OA about it.
 

Tarazet

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Maxwell House said:
Yeah fiction. Ask anyone who reads Opa Age whether this is fiction. Sonarat is an admitted zoophile. He has video taped deer pissing. He has tried to drink deer piss. He tried to fuck a horse but the horse kicked him in the nuts. He collects pictures of Disney films featuring lions, foxes, whatever to jack offf to.

All this is true. All of this is crap he has posted at OA. Ask anyone from OA about it.

Everything in this post is either completely false, or twisted until is no longer true. I'll be the first to admit that I have perverse tastes even compared with many Furries, but I do not abuse or stalk animals.
 

jett

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Er um, sorry Sonarrat, but I've also read about you trying to drink an animal's piss, and trying to fuck a cat. It wasn't second hand information, either. :p
 
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